OK yeah you're right, that's what I was thinking was gameplay modes and such. I suppose it isn't shocking but it is definitely a major letdown.
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OK yeah you're right, that's what I was thinking was gameplay modes and such. I suppose it isn't shocking but it is definitely a major letdown.
prag16
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They never said the Wii U can't run the engine. Don't read into it something that's not there. More likely it is a half assed port.
Thunder Monkey
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I could have sworn we've all been over this a hundred times.
The WiiU isn't technically "superior". In a few ways it can definitely be considered inferior. Being a lower clocked OoOE CPU most likely means what it gains in efficiency and ease of use it loses in pure floppage. This is going to complicate porting engines designed under a different paradigm.
The more we learn about the system the more it seems Nintendo designed this as a"Durango-lite" system more than a 360+.
Actually, he did say they were unable to get it running this year.
specialguy
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You dont need physics to make a Mario game.
stupidvillager
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But he didnt say anything about hardware power being the reason. Probably the same reason EA made Fifa "12.5". Just lake of time.
In all seriousness, are we really debating whether or not Wii U can run a Madden engine? Seriously? The fuck, man?.....
specialguy
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It does add credence to the wii u having a cpu deficit rumors.
too be fair it also sounds like they probably can get it running eventually, just not this year.
too be fair it also sounds like they probably can get it running eventually, just not this year.
Thunder Monkey
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Or more specifically, you can't run you're unoptimized code designed for an entirely different form of CPU on something that has none of the capability. Similar issue to porting PS2 code to an Xbox. That Pentium3 is going to choke because the system was designed to be GPU dependent. No matter how much more theoretical power that Pentium 3 has, it has none of the bandwidth. Because it wasn't designed under the same constraints.
I really wouldn't mind knowing the design principles and specifications of the WiiU. That would tell me whether or not the system was designed under a more modern paradigm or not.
If the GPU is designed as the physics cruncher this might be moot. If it wasn't? Then the WiiU isn't just badly designed by modern standards, but even by last gen design practices.
I see. Well as others and yourself have said - they're both terms which are open for interpretation. I don't think 'hardcore' holds any real meaning in gaming anymore tbh. There are games which reward dedicated players, and games which reward occasional play. And there are some which reward both. All of these can have themes ranging from cartoon marshmellow bunnies to rage-filled murder-fests, and all that lies inbetween.
And to pull it back on topic....WiiU seems to have a great spread across genres/play types at launch
JordanN
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Pretty sure that's fake.
The whole weak CPU was born out of Wii U taunting so I'm not sure why people bother to take it serious.
ColdBlooder
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I applaud your effort in becoming a Y-KNOW-WAT!
The only thing preventing EA from porting the whole engine to Wii U is their shitty 1 year per game cycle, wich is NOT ENOUGH to port the whole game.
Theres your problem and not the CPU performance.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Im pretty sure WiiU can run it, They just didnt put it on it. And the engine is not really that much of a engine than a game play alternater. A engine is euphoria that backbreaker uses. The madden "xfinity" engine is half-assed itself. More like a prototype or experiment for next gen madden.
In all seriousness, are we really debating whether or not Wii U can run a Madden engine? Seriously? The fuck, man?.....
specialguy
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Completely amazing we still dont know the specific details of Wii U hardware 3.5 months til launch.
I hope this isn't the case for Durango/Orbis. That's insane.
MadeInBeats
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Wanna start a website?
ColdBlooder
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Quite hilarious if the next 3D Mario would rely heavily on physics. That comment would follow you everywhere if that happenes
JordanN
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What's even worse is people are using football as a benchmark for graphics.
In all seriousness, are we really debating whether or not Wii U can run a Madden engine? Seriously? The fuck, man?.....
I mean, it's like people forgot Pikmin 3 and Assassin's Creed 3 are on the Wii U and are most likely doing way more work than Madden ever will.
Oh noes, Wii U cpu is horribly weak! All those objects on screen wouldn't even qualify for 360 level.
Nostremitus
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What happened to EA saying that Madden would launch with a new "Next-gen" engine?
MadeInBeats
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What's even worse is people are using football as a benchmark for graphics.
I mean, it's like people forgot Pikmin 3 and Assassin's Creed 3 are on the Wii U and are most likely doing way more work than Madden ever will.
Oh noes, Wii U cpu is horribly weak! All those objects on screen wouldn't even qualify for 360 level.
This.
But man... dat apple...
Wise words.
Thunder Monkey
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I'd argue we already know more about those two systems.
We haven't gotten a single page of target specifications for the WiiU.
Yep. Called www.dontlookagifthorseinthemouth.com
edit: this isn't a real link. don't click it.
Also, that Pikmin shot looks awesome.
ColdBlooder
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Prettiest game @ E3 to me. Not even kidding. Check the 720p trailer, the game looks like this.
Must admit, I've not been following the Wii U much since E3, after convincing myself I didn't need the system at launch, but I'm slowly rebuilding that hype again.
Are we any closer to finding out launch information such as price and/or dates? Are there any Wii U specific Nintendo Direct's due, or any strong hints and rumours about what the launch plans will be?
I figure being August we should be close to some sort of reveal?
Are we any closer to finding out launch information such as price and/or dates? Are there any Wii U specific Nintendo Direct's due, or any strong hints and rumours about what the launch plans will be?
I figure being August we should be close to some sort of reveal?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Why am I not surprised?
Again, nowhere in that statement does the guy say the system "can't handle" the Infinity engine. Nowhere.
R
Rösti
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It's also very strange that we got more hardware info at E3 2011 than this year, not counting MoSys' announcement that Wii U will not incorporate 1T-SRAM memory. Last year we got some statements from both AMD and IBM, but this year all we got was this lousy hardware fact sheet.
It shall be very interesting to see exactly what the console houses once someone opens it up. I'm thinking about doing a thorough investigation if I only can get enough money for it.
Yep, I've seen a lot of footage but everything I see it again it makes me want
Could potentially look better by launch too. Although probably nothing drastic.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Van Owen and specialguy. LET"S DO THIS THING!
Is that a screenshot from Lethal Enforcers? Because, if not, it looks almost identical.
lordfroakie
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Meh EA won't survive next gen...
Nostremitus
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I'm pretty sure this was already discussed by EA months ago, that they would use a different engine that would take advantage of the Wii U's "Next-gen" features... I remember because it was a big deal that EA called the system "next gen" at a time when many people were talking about it not being as powerful as PS360... I can't find a link to the article though and IGN is blocked on my work computer.
Hot Fuzz. Which parodies many many cop/action movies
Edit: had no idea Lethal Enforcers was a game, sorry
ColdBlooder
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Yep, I've seen a lot of footage but everything I see it again it makes me want
Could potentially look better by launch too. Although probably nothing drastic.
I wasn´ t too keen on Pikmin to be honest, because i couldn´t find where to go very often so Days would pass and i got nothing done. The map on the pad could help with it. So i may give Pikmin 3 a shot.
That it looks this pretty is a welcomed bonus
I wasn´ to keen on Pikmin to be honest, because i couldn´t find where to go very often so Days would pass and i got nothing done. The map on the pad could help with it. So i may give Pikmin 3 a shot.
That it looks this pretty is a welcomed bonus
I ecxpect most of the 'polishing' in the last few/next few months will be on getting the gamepad features incorporated better. From what I've read, the wiimote/gamepad combo is awesome, but gamepad only control is a little uninspired by Nintendo (and Miyamoto's) standards.
Bobby Kotick: Competitors' games 'are less than adequate'
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485254
http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/tech/post/_/id/1471?
Dont know if this has been posted
"How many people can play the game at once?
You can actually play up to five players at a time with the Wii U. We’ll be supporting the game pad, the Wii remote and nunchuk, and we’ll also be supporting the pro controller."
Madden WiiU will have Wiimote nunchuck support, thats really big since a lot of people thought 3rd parties will flat out drop support on WiiU.
I hope FPS will follow suit, def COD: BO 2, there is noway im playing online with dual analog, I can play offline with it not online.
Dont know if this has been posted
"How many people can play the game at once?
You can actually play up to five players at a time with the Wii U. We’ll be supporting the game pad, the Wii remote and nunchuk, and we’ll also be supporting the pro controller."
Madden WiiU will have Wiimote nunchuck support, thats really big since a lot of people thought 3rd parties will flat out drop support on WiiU.
I hope FPS will follow suit, def COD: BO 2, there is noway im playing online with dual analog, I can play offline with it not online.
The Madden thing is probably just a matter of EA working with new hardware in the amount of time that they had. I wouldn't be surprised if they had less time to work on the Wii U version than the other two.
I'm not even sure if that'll affect my decision to play any version at all. I don't think I've even played a Madden since 2007 on the Wii, nevermind never having bought one since 94 on the SNES. I haven't so much as touched a current gen Madden.
I'm not even sure if that'll affect my decision to play any version at all. I don't think I've even played a Madden since 2007 on the Wii, nevermind never having bought one since 94 on the SNES. I haven't so much as touched a current gen Madden.
Dreamwriter
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Why would third parties drop support for the Nunchuck? It's not like a Pro controller will be packed in the system, the system will most likely come with a Gamepad, a Wii Remote+, and a Nunchuck.
andthebeatgoeson
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I guess I should be okay with it getting a port. Between people not liking Nintendo, people sticking with previous gen hardware, etc, it wasn't going to make a big deal. It would have been nice to see a few more pubs make a bigger effort. Either way, getting ME3, although old, shows more effort than last gen. I guess it just shows they are not completely convinced it will sell well.
This is only just a test...
They should put these as labels on select Wii U games.
I'm guessing he meant they didn't have time, they said the same thing about FIFA 13 Wii U and that was they didn't have time to implement some features, do people forget the first EA sport games on the Xbox 360?, it has nothing to do with power.
MadeInBeats
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I just looked in the new Argos catalogue (every home in the UK has one, sort of like how every hotel in America has a Bible) and the Wii U is in there!!
It states: "Stunning six-inch HD touch screen" & "Use your existing Wii Remote"
It states: "Stunning six-inch HD touch screen" & "Use your existing Wii Remote"
Are ME3 and (I think) NSMBu the only ones confirmed to do this so far?
ColdBlooder
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Mario is a much more "play while poop" game because its not as complex
Mass Effect 3 Wii U interview/footage.
http://gotgame.com/2012/08/03/ea-summer-showcase-2012-mass-effect-3-wii-u-interview/
http://gotgame.com/2012/08/03/ea-summer-showcase-2012-mass-effect-3-wii-u-interview/
Of course it has nothing to do with power. There is the issue of launching on time: EA wants to create a presence on the WiiU as UBISOFT is currently dominating it. As well as having something to get WiiU owners to buy the new and improved version next year.
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