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Wii U Community Thread
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Ah snap, trolling and food are two of my favorite things.
ColdBlooder
Banned
Well i'm just really busy at the moment, and by the way it was a pleasure while catching to see several people requesting info from me, it's just sad that suddenly, this last page strained that, always by the same
I'm on the NintenGAF IRC every other day to troll, talk about food, and i think i gave 1 or 2 infos on it.
"IdeaMans Food ´n Videogames with U". You should get your own show on tv, eating crossaints, baugettes or snails while drinking a nice wine and playing some Wii U (when its out)
I smell high ratings DAMMIT, the guy isn't a machine!!
Sit down IdeaMan, I'll put the kettle on mate
Hush you! Wii U news start to arrive and now Ideaman is here, he knows something and I will make him talk!
Well i'm just really busy at the moment, and by the way it was a pleasure while catching to see several people requesting info from me, it's just sad that suddenly, this last page strained that, always by the same
I'm on the NintenGAF IRC every other day to troll, talk about food, and i think i gave 1 or 2 infos on it.
Look, there will always be doubters about every piece of news. Hell even you requested us to take any info you present with a grain of salt. The fact that people like to call you out every single time is a bit annoying, yes, but its not out of nowhere.
Now, give us the news
just messing with you
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
It varies, and I can only speak for the Swedish retailing scene, but there it's usually three weeks before launch if the materials aren't connected to some larger marketing campaign (as appears to be what this push for Wii U display boxes, posters etc. is).
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Really people are still having doubts and stuff just because of the conference, hell even I do. But Im not gonna sulk in it Ive been playing Nintendo consoles since I was a kid I didnt know wtf a E3 conference was. I had nothing to get hyped about until I had it in front of me.
anyways good to hear others took a break from the spec threads and gaf after E3. I thought I was the only one and felt guilty like I betrayed you guys or something lol.
Exactly, Sony's E3 2006 was worse than Nintendo's E3 2012 and the PS3 was $600 which made it worse, is the PS3 a bad console now because of that conference?, nope it's an awesome console, people really got to stop looking at E3 and saying "well since the conference sucked the console will too".
I wasn't accepted on NeoGAF yet but I was watching these threads and I stayed away from NeoGAF for a little while, I was scared to go on to see the meltdowns, I still haven't fully seen the Nintendo E3 2012 Conference thread because I know it's probably a train wreak lol.
EDIT: This is from the Wii U Marketing Material thread
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40791019&postcount=85
"Looks like Wii U controller faceplates are coming."
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008U25YUG/
ColdBlooder
Banned
What else would you do. Just read every Nintendo thread directly after E3. No way in hell you could have had any chance of a healthy discussion!
Now we wait for the august Nintendo Direct and most important, the fall conference!
Yea Aug Nintendo Direct could be for Launch date, price details and Sept conf could be for 2013 support and other info we need before launch.
CriterionDog
Member
When's the August Nintendo Direct?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Either broken link or amazon snatched them off..Was it just a description of them or was there a picture too?
Bony Manifesto
Member
But the problem is that the PS3 really DID suck for the first few years of its life!
This is getting real now!
You guys think we can expect big 2013 Nintendo game relveals during the fall conference? I believe Retros game will be next E3, I just don´t see it being unveiled before then. What development subgroups within nintendo could realistically have something to show?
You guys think we can expect big 2013 Nintendo game relveals during the fall conference? I believe Retros game will be next E3, I just don´t see it being unveiled before then. What development subgroups within nintendo could realistically have something to show?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
They will show 2013 and other games this year..especially for launch for Japan. Because when you think about what exactly does Japan have on the WiiU??? Seems like most know launch titles are 90% western games.
GiantEnemyGoomba
Member
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nintendo-Licensed-Controller-Faceplate-Wii/dp/B008U25YUG/ref=sr_1_36?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1344463637&sr=1-36
Try this link to see the placeholder for the faceplates.
Try this link to see the placeholder for the faceplates.
I know, but do you guys think it will mostly be 3rd party games? What teams could have something to show within nintendo. My guess is monolith for sure. Maybe Tokio? Some other colabs with 3rd parties?
Agent Unknown
Member
Ugh, that's awful. :/ Was that a known regular who did that?
Yeah, I'm surprised I came back to Wii U Spec as soon as I did after the conference.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I've been one of the people who has questioned your validity, along with Skies. EC let me know if questioning him is fine in this thread or not, like will it get me banned etc. Alright so here's how I see that list you linked:
Almost all of your leaks are super obvious and vague, or safe bets. "No system redesign at E3"... what a shock. Something like that isn't a big gamble when making predictions, same with most of that other stuff.
By the way, Ideaman's info doesn't really have a positive (or negative) connotation to the Wii U so I hope people don't think I'm only questioning him because I'm trying to be anti-Nintendo. I don't like bs.
Shadowlink
Member
Why are people saying that there'll be a Nintendo Direct this month? I know of the Fall conference, but don't remember Nintendo saying anything about a Nintendo Direct. Are you all guessing?
Yeah i know, this is why i said "always the same", i can count those in one hand finger, but you are strangely resilient i would say
For the rest, well, i must have some stratospheric luck to have "predicted" this long combination of infos
And, well, a lot expected a redesign, a lot expected only 1 gamepad, 1080p resolution, the NFC sensor being other that what it is, yadda yadda, and as you recognize yourself, facts like the separated flash memory for OS storage or classic controller used in the first dev kits proves undoubtedly that i have sources (it amazes me that in august, i have to say that, i thought it was settled 2 months ago by the facts).Anyway, it's really funny that the same folk insists in their weird personal angst toward me, even when i'm too busy to participate like before. Don't you realize it's off topic, it's derailing the thread and install in it a bad atmosphere whereas it clearly didn't need it ?
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Nintendo Directs have been every two months until now. The last one was late June where they revealed the 3DS XL...
Kacho
Gold Member
I think it's based on the fact that there has been a Nintendo direct every 2 months for quite some time now. The last one we had was back in June, so August is when the next one should be.
That's assuming they don't skip the Nintendo Direct altogether and just announce everything at the Fall Conference.
+ no games except Metal Gear Solid 4.
I figured that if I spent that much on a console, I'd expect at least 3 games I'd want to go along with that. It didn't. It took me until God of War III and Final Fantasy XIII in 2010 for me to get a PS3 which ran me $350 for the system.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I dont know, my guess could be as good as anyones..like I cant even guess one really.
edit: I would say 3rd parties for sure but not sure which ones.
Bony Manifesto
Member
And the mediocre selection of exclusives. And the inferior/delayed/absent multi-platform titles. And the lacking of basic system features that the 360 had. And the whole Sixais/DualShock3 clusterfuck.
It's impressive that they've managed to recover (to an extent), but the omnishambles that was the PS3 launch really hurt them. They had this obscene level of arrogance to presume that none of that stuff mattered and that people would buy the PS3 no matter what how badly they screwed up. I don't want to see Nintendo fall into the same trap - hopefully the 3DS was a wake-up call for them, and a reminder that they always have to bring their A-game.
The importance of the information is irrelevant considering the fact that he has never been wrong, not once. Furthermore, his info wasn't as simplified as the list he created. For instance, he said the Wii U console would feature 2 controllers, so what, right? Actually, I remember he specifically said that this was a feature included just before E3 and that no one should expect any games displaying it in the show floor..... Now honestly can you say this is an easy or predictable piece of information?
Then you have that final bullet point which is, as you said, so trivial and insignificant that it should skipped every person's radar. Yet he got it right again. Add all of that with the fact that his information regarding the system's power has been in line with other "insiders" in this forum, as well as the fact that he has never been wrong, and I fail to see why Ideaman's credibility is always in question while others seemingly get a free pass.
I'm not saying everything he spews is the gospel, hell most of his information is, as you say, predictable, but nevertheless this is a speculation thread and he does introduce interesting, positive discussions, an attribute not many of us own.
Really, Nintendo does what it wants on it's own terms. Did anyone expect a Nintendo Direct to mention a 3DS XL revision a mere week after e3? Or a Nintendo Direct showing off Wii U's "Wara Wara" two days before their conference?
I'm not sure on their specific days for Nintendo Directs, but I doubt those surprises fell in line to some prearranged schedule. But certainly Nintendo can do a special "Wii U Direct" whenever the hell they please, even if their scheduled August direct says nothing of interest.
Some promo material is arriving in some stores today, apparently. Leaked box art designs were shown yesterday. That's reason to be excited. I think everyone's safe bet is a November 18th launch... But especially with 3DS XL and these leaks, Nintendo's shown off their ability to do what they want and surprise us. A late October release to coincide with ACIII would be smart (October 30th). If COD:BO2 is November 13th, surely there would be a major benefit to having the system out on or before then too. Some big games to show off 3rd party sales potential.
Madden, FIFA, and Darksiders will already be out, so that's a little too early to expect. ME 3 and Batman are pretty much old news these days. They need to let their 3rd party A games appear relevant with the intended launch time.
Overall, it's not quite the same thing as launching 3DS with next to nothing, hoping Capcrom's SFIV port and Nintendogs filled the slack.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Yeah i know, this is why i said "always the same", i can count those in one hand finger, but you are strangely resilient i would say
For the rest, well, i must have some stratospheric luck to have "predicted" this long combination of infos
Anyway, it's really funny that the same folk insists in their weird personal angst toward me, even when i'm too busy to participate like before. Don't you realize it's off topic, it's derailing the thread, and install a bad atmosphere in a thread that clearly didn't need it ?
It's not difficult to correctly guess a string of vague and very obvious info like that, which was my point.
There were things that you posted which didn't happen as well that you yourself discuss in that post- link.
I also don't see how this is off-topic. If someone says he has sources and posts rumors and leaks for months I think it's fair to publicly question their validity, otherwise this could turn into the Wild Wild West.
You did get that one about the 512 mb flash right, so who knows, maybe you are legit or maybe a fellow poster in here threw you a bone via PM, I dunno. But in my eyes E3 was your opportunity to truly validate your leaks with something concrete and worthwhile and we ended up getting vagueness and what could be considered obvious guesswork. Wii U games being 720p, no redesign, a classic controller, two pads working... I'm stunned. Revelations.
Silent_Ocarina
Member
I have no doubt that IdeaMan had legitimate information. I just don't think the actual content blew anyone's minds. Don't get me wrong, though, I loved reading every tidbit!
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Actually I do remember a thread being posted on the gaming side about a rumor of 2 pads working with Wii U. This was before E3
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
but with this on the cover instead:
I'm absolutely stunned Nintendo used that picture of the Wii U. At first glance, the system itself looks almost identical to the original.
For those of us on GAF it isn't an issue but for casuals? I just can't believe nobody at their HQ thinks of this stuff or, if they do, are ignored.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I agree with this, he's definitely interesting to read and has made these specu threads more fun. But his attention-seeking style of writing and leaking of this 'info' makes him more prone to criticism than the others, which is why the others are getting a "free pass" like you said.
I feel the same.
I can't say if he's really an insider or not, but I can say that his "inside info" is mostly useless. The way he went about giving that info to us was really annoying too.
Kacho
Gold Member
They were really adamant about the Wii U console being "just a box" at E3 2011. I think their marketing is in line with that mentality, where the focus is the controller and not the console itself. I guess we'll see how well that works out for them in the coming months.
anchorman128
Member
JordanN
Banned
The Wii didn't have a huge screen, nor was its case designed to be very long (in relation to Wii U).
I dunno, that's just me. I'll never understand how people confuse the two. Ok, the name I can understand but the actual physical product? I'm pretty sure I could show my parents the two and they'll be able to tell the difference more so than my 3DS and DS.
You're caricaturing the hundreds of posts i've written, with very specific details on dev kits, date of appearance of features, of the activation or not of functions, equipment supplying timeframe, etc. I don't want to lose anymore time with "interlocutors" that are using dishonest methods to bitch about someone they have undoubtedly a problem with.
And i dunno what you expected, the informations about the redesign or no of a system, the number of controllers supported, its resolution, memory amount, storage situation, and tons of other things, are important matter and have been confirmed during E3, or Nintendo Direct, or vgleaks, or by other websites.
And it's off topic because don't you see i posted like 6 times since E3 with no leaks, i didn't write a message since several weak, and suddenly, you and your friend jump at the occasion to bitch against me again because someone summoned me ? It's telling about some trouble (because when i don't like someone, i don't use every occasion to criticize him whereas the guy is not even here and it's not the object of the conversations since like 3 months, i just ignore it, like 99% of the normal crowd), in addition to installing a bad mood here.
Do you have specific examples of where IdeaMan was dead wrong though?
Heavy said:
Anyway, even if he's NOT an insider in any way, he certainly displays a common sense that so far is shared with Nintendo in his predictions. I wouldn't discount him as easily as you do. He could have predicted 4 pads simultaneously for example, or he could have gotten the NFC and how it's used wrong. Or he could have not predicted a traditional controller at all. Looking at his "predictions" as a whole, if he's simply pulling stuff out of his ass, he's pretty good at it.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Yeah exactly - the info is mostly useless and he gave it out in an obnoxious string-along way which made it worse.
Yeah scroll down in this post, the "not confirmed" http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38716276&postcount=30
Silent_Ocarina
Member
I really brushed it off for months, but I'm growing increasingly concerned about this. The Wii Remote was a bigger innovation than the GamePad, yet the Wii console had more attention than the Wii U console.
Here is an early promo of Wii. The focus is clearly on the Wii Remote throughout the entire video, but at least you see the console clearly at the end.
This is the Wii promo from E3 2006. Again, the Wii Remote is the focus (and rightfully so), but they give the console some attention.
Now watch the Wii U promo from E3 2011.
Attention is never drawn toward the console. The words "with the new controller" are constantly used. The similar design doesn't help, and the similar name is even more detrimental in my opinion.
With the console almost hidden by the GamePad, their intentions are clear, and I really think it's a poorly thought out decision.
But what do I know? People were counting them out when they showed Wii. We'll see how it works out for them.
And the sole flash storage situation, with the separated amount dedicated to OS of a different type, the appearance of a second DRC port just before E3 without being activated (hence the launch titles not using this features), the description of the V1 dev kit months before a document was posted on vgleaks, and tons of other things, are too detailed and specific to just have been guessed. Basically, after considering all these points, if some people are still accusing me of being a fraud, it's just borderline trolling, and i'm not surprised it's by the same crew (very reactive, my posts awaken them in less than an hour
) that derailed tons of pages in the precedent WUST about me before the events proved me right.Anyway, it's not interesting, so if we could end this and talk about more important matters
again with these dishonest methods, the guy is asking you for dead wrong material, you reply him with a link of my own message (lol) when i do an assessment of the information confirmed, or not confirmed yet, there isn't a "dead wrong" part
it's settled then ? i got it, you don't like me, yadda yadda, i can live with that, but if we could let the thread live its life without this pollution, thanks
Barack Lesnar
Banned
again with these dishonest method, the guy is asking you for dead wrong material, you reply him with a link of my own message (lol) when i do an assessment of the information confirmed, or not confirmed yet, there isn't a "dead wrong" part
it's settled then ? i got it, you don't like me, yadda yadda, i can live with that, but if we could let the thread life his life without this pollution, thanks
So anything that doesn't come true you can just label it "not confirmed" and walk away scott free?
Great! Two peeps with " sources ".
"I can't believe you fell for the oldest trick in the book!"
Well the promo boxes with the games showed NintendoLand (along with NSMBU and AC3 iirc) which could indicate retail...or just be no indication of anything at all.
I still forget that the Wii even came out in black (how many years did that take), so just showing the new console in black might be noticeable. Plus the big ass controller/tablet thing in front.
As long as they don't sell the controller separately (at least early on) it's debatably a moot point. If someone wants the new controller it's not like they can make a mistake in buying the wrong thing.
...this also seems to be the case with how you react to posts about you. This sums it up I think:(very reactive, my posts awaken them in less than an hour
You keep the cycle going once it starts
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