399 euro. It sounds fake to me.
I personally dont think Nintendo will go higher than 350,
But if Ninty sees alot of people are pre-ordering it at 399-499
Who knows what they will decide.
399 euro. It sounds fake to me.
I personally dont think Nintendo will go higher than 350,
But if Ninty sees alot of people are pre-ordering it at 399-499
Who knows what they will decide.
Yes I was talking about gameplay footage/controller functionality like would we be able to play it with the gamepad with motion control?
"There has been a heated debate back and forth regarding the Wii Us performance. Is it more powerful than current gen consoles? How powerful? Nintendo never gets into those kinds of discussions, opting instead to point out the unique features of the Wii U. But in todays gaming world, pretty graphics and high performance sells. To a point. Which begs the questions: 1) does it matter how powerful the Wii U is, and 2) how powerful is it? The short answers to those questions are, 1) Yes, it does matter how powerful the Wii U is, and 2) Its powerful enough.
While Nintendo will never tout the performance of its consoles, its clear that the company is taking HD graphics seriously this time around. Back in 2006 with the Wii, Nintendo bet that HD wasnt a big deal. And they were right. But that was six years ago. Today, HD is mainstream. Despite Nintendos main focus on the GamePad controller, they know that the Wii U not only has to be able to push 1080p resolution, but deliver decent image quality as well. It simply has to do this if its going to appeal to a mainstream audience, because today, mainstream has gone HD. In fact, they did several years ago. And it appears that Nintendo has in fact delivered a powerful console: the current (rumored) Wii U specs include a 3GHz tri-core CPU, 1.5 GB of RAM, and a speedy GPU from AMD. This makes the Wii U about 2X more powerful than the Xbox 360, meaning theres plenty of performance to drive HD graphics to satisfy todays gamers and casual fans. And thats important for Nintendo back in 2006, HDTVs were just taking off, but now, the vast majority of television sets are HDTVs.
Another major reason for Nintendo to create a console with modern specs is third party support. Because of its specs and HD capabilities, third party publishers are now bringing some of their major franchises to a Nintendo console because for the first time, its technically feasible. Games like Assassins Creed 3, Batman Arkham City and Mass Effect 3 are all coming to the Wii U. And some of them come with improved visuals over their Xbox 360 and PS3 counterparts. Not to mention full tablet controller support.
For a console not to offer HD resolution today would be the same as if a console in year 2000 couldnt do 3D visualsWhile us Nintendo fans tend to favor innovation over prettier graphics and thats how it should be its important to recognize that graphics and visual advances in video games do matter. If they didnt matter at all, wed still be playing black and white 8-bit games on tiny screens. For a console not to offer HD resolution today would be the same as if a console in year 2000 couldnt do 3D visuals, or a console in 1995 didnt offer colors and was only in black and white. But its easy to get lost in the war of graphics and specs, and Nintendo knows this. Theyve made the Wii U just powerful enough to display decent graphics, but not powerful enough where it competes solely on performance. Thats not where the Wii Us strengths lie. The strength of the Wii U is in its innovation, mainly, its controller.
Nintendo didnt compete on graphics last time because they didnt have to: they had a much more innovative product. And they dont have to compete on graphics this time either the Wii U offers a new approach to gaming that other console makers have already tried to copy. But that doesnt mean the company is stuck in 2006. They have to keep up with the times as everyone else. The Wii U is powerful just enough to support full HD graphics and satisfy third parties. After that, its all about the unique features of the console: the Wii U GamePad."
Yes I agree. Thoughts? And keep in mind this is an opinion of some guy in wii u daily.
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"There has been a heated debate back and forth regarding the Wii Us performance. Is it more powerful than current gen consoles? How powerful? Nintendo never gets into those kinds of discussions, opting instead to point out the unique features of the Wii U. But in todays gaming world, pretty graphics and high performance sells. To a point. Which begs the questions: 1) does it matter how powerful the Wii U is, and 2) how powerful is it? The short answers to those questions are, 1) Yes, it does matter how powerful the Wii U is, and 2) Its powerful enough.
While Nintendo will never tout the performance of its consoles, its clear that the company is taking HD graphics seriously this time around. Back in 2006 with the Wii, Nintendo bet that HD wasnt a big deal. And they were right. But that was six years ago. Today, HD is mainstream. Despite Nintendos main focus on the GamePad controller, they know that the Wii U not only has to be able to push 1080p resolution, but deliver decent image quality as well. It simply has to do this if its going to appeal to a mainstream audience, because today, mainstream has gone HD. In fact, they did several years ago. And it appears that Nintendo has in fact delivered a powerful console: the current (rumored) Wii U specs include a 3GHz tri-core CPU, 1.5 GB of RAM, and a speedy GPU from AMD. This makes the Wii U about 2X more powerful than the Xbox 360, meaning theres plenty of performance to drive HD graphics to satisfy todays gamers and casual fans. And thats important for Nintendo back in 2006, HDTVs were just taking off, but now, the vast majority of television sets are HDTVs.
Another major reason for Nintendo to create a console with modern specs is third party support. Because of its specs and HD capabilities, third party publishers are now bringing some of their major franchises to a Nintendo console because for the first time, its technically feasible. Games like Assassins Creed 3, Batman Arkham City and Mass Effect 3 are all coming to the Wii U. And some of them come with improved visuals over their Xbox 360 and PS3 counterparts. Not to mention full tablet controller support.
For a console not to offer HD resolution today would be the same as if a console in year 2000 couldnt do 3D visualsWhile us Nintendo fans tend to favor innovation over prettier graphics and thats how it should be its important to recognize that graphics and visual advances in video games do matter. If they didnt matter at all, wed still be playing black and white 8-bit games on tiny screens. For a console not to offer HD resolution today would be the same as if a console in year 2000 couldnt do 3D visuals, or a console in 1995 didnt offer colors and was only in black and white. But its easy to get lost in the war of graphics and specs, and Nintendo knows this. Theyve made the Wii U just powerful enough to display decent graphics, but not powerful enough where it competes solely on performance. Thats not where the Wii Us strengths lie. The strength of the Wii U is in its innovation, mainly, its controller.
Nintendo didnt compete on graphics last time because they didnt have to: they had a much more innovative product. And they dont have to compete on graphics this time either the Wii U offers a new approach to gaming that other console makers have already tried to copy. But that doesnt mean the company is stuck in 2006. They have to keep up with the times as everyone else. The Wii U is powerful just enough to support full HD graphics and satisfy third parties. After that, its all about the unique features of the console: the Wii U GamePad."
If Nintendo breaches $350 then they are going to have some serious problems. Even a WiiU bundled with Nintendoland at $350 would have a hard time moving off the shelves pass the Holidays.
Nintendo needs to hit $299, bundle or not.
399 euro is 487 Canadian. Yeah, I love Nintendo but, fuck that. I won't buy it for more than $350 CAD which is like 287 euroI personally dont think Nintendo will go higher than 350,
But if Ninty sees alot of people are pre-ordering it at 399-499
Who knows what they will decide.
If Nintendo breaches $350 then they are going to have some serious problems. Even a WiiU bundled with Nintendoland at $349 would have a hard time moving off the shelves pass the Holidays.
Nintendo needs to hit $299, bundle or not.
People need to chill about Zelda. Let Nintendo do their job. I have been happy with all the Zeldas. People like to complain and then it has this trendy domino effect then others start saying stuff. Its good idea not to really read to much into it. People start seeing all these invisible issues that arent really there and people all jump aboard to point it out..and I just roll my eyes because I dont have the whole gaf issue box reflex and enjoy the game for what it is and not get agitated by petty self annoyances.
399 euro is 487 Canadian. Yeah, I love Nintendo but, fuck that. I won't buy it for more than $350 CAD which is like 287 euro
Yes, but since the speakers are propably a shitton better than the wiimote speaker the "sound travel" think may actually be used now
i.E. Shooting sound for arrow comes from the pad, impact sound from tv
etc...
People saying Nintendo would have problems selling it over $350, ever though Sony and MS might face the same problems too?
People saying Nintendo would have problems selling it over $350, ever though Sony and MS might face the same problems too?
While I agree that Sony and MS will have a hard time selling a console at the same prices they did 7 years ago, I think it may be more of a perceived value sort of thing and the perception is that Nintendo has weaker (less costly) hardware. Take the GameCube as an example. It was superior to the PS2 and many people thought it was the weaker system because it was Nintendo.
Are you talking about people today or 10 years ago?, because Nintendo always had the more powerful console.
Relating to PH yes. I havent played ST yet though. I thought Phantom Hourglass approached a whole new way to play Zelda first starting with the touch screen. It also has drawbacks like the back tracking and such but Im not gonna call the game bad for it. Besides these people arent talking about DS Zeldas they're talking about home console versions. Just because one person decides to state their opinions on how bad a game is doesnt mean Im gonna jump on with it. People on gaf talk about oh Im tired of games and all this hoopla and they're all bad or whatever yet they sit on these messageboards all day and worry about review scores and discuss how bad a game is rather than enjoying as it is. Lets talk about the pros and enjoyable side once in awhile.You've been happy with all Zeldas? Phantom Hourglass and the constant backtracking of annoying puzzles in ocean king temple, makes me shudder. Haven't been a huge fan of spirit tracks either. Blowing into the mic to play an instrument is lame. DKR DS was bad enough with that...
Both....
This all goes back to the "16bit Wars" when Sega launched a pretty successful campaign, instilling that the SNES and Gameboy were inferior to their the Genesis and GameGear. While true in some respects, the main point was to drive sales for Sega and eventually there was the divide between Sega and Nintendo gamers. Many of my friends at the time would make fun of my SNES and when MK1 was released, oh boy was it a shit storm.
Sony more or less followed Sega's suit with their PSX ads, citing cd vs cart mostly. It didnt help Nintendo's case that for the most part, the PS1 and Saturn had a more mature library to choose from.
I don't remember much about the GC/PS2/Xbox era as far as advertising but I do remember how people compared the GameCube to a purple lunchbox with a Playskool controller. Not to mention the incorrect perception the Gamecube was inferior to the PS2.
The Wii and Nintendo's Blue Ocean strategy just exacerbated things. This is why I think no matter what Nintendo does, their hardware will be perceived as "kiddie".
... does Nintendo have to make some super mature game with tons of gore, drugs, and sex to convince the "hardcore" gamers that Nintendo is truly mature?, no because that's not Nintendo and Nintendo wouldn't be Nintendo if they made a game like that, those people just got to know what the definition of kiddy is these days.
People saying Nintendo would have problems selling it over $350, ever though Sony and MS might face the same problems too?
It's off-topic, but with the way things have gone, I have a hard time believing a video game system next generation over $350 will be successful unless it truly brings something groundbreaking to the table.
I agree that No, Nintendo doesnt have to do that but it also wouldnt hurt to get a few third parties on board that will do that for them. Prime example, Zombie U, Arkham City, Mass Effect, etc.
All I think Nintendo needs to do is to keep establishing themselves as the go to company for gaming. Microsoft and Sony both have other motives/divisions that have a hand in how their gaming hardware will evolve. Nintendo just has to focus primarily on the gaming aspect.
I'd much prefer 720p native with v-synch. Screen tearing has driven me bloody mental this gen. What's the point in developers putting in the effort to give us decent looking eye candy when it all turns to shite whenever you move the camera..?
Nintendo wants to sell me a $400 console it better be on par with the PS4/720 or have a packin game and two controllers or a digital shop card or something. $400 for just a console and tablet is a ripoff.If it's 399 euro then it would be most likely 399 us, which would make it 399 Canadian. But yeah, I don't believe that price at all. $299 makes too much sense.
The Wii U at this point is basically how the Genesis and PS1 first started off.I mean will Nintendo finally get third party support right this time?, for 3 generations now Nintendo's consoles all have a problem with them.
Nintendo 64 - Cartridge based hurt third party support
GameCube - Small CD, low sales hurt third party support
Wii - Too weak to get the major third party support
We know Nintendo is using 25gb of memory for the disks, the Wii U won't be to weak like the Wii was compared to the PS3 and 360 and Nintendo made the Wii U Pro Controller which will help third party's that won't want to use the Gamepad, we know Nintendo is being very supportive of indie devs and making it much easier to support the Wii U than what the Wii was, they are also supporting Free 2 Play, achievements are confirmed for Wii U, a much better online, and more.
The Wii U at this point is basically how the Genesis and PS1 first started off.
There's nothing inferior about it in relation to the present. It's all about how it maintains its foothold for the rest of its gen (i.e sales).
Relating to PH yes. I havent played ST yet though. I thought Phantom Hourglass approached a whole new way to play Zelda first starting with the touch screen. It also has drawbacks like the back tracking and such but Im not gonna call the game bad for it. Besides these people arent talking about DS Zeldas they're talking about home console versions. Just because one person decides to state their opinions on how bad a game is doesnt mean Im gonna jump on with it. People on gaf talk about oh Im tired of games and all this hoopla and they're all bad or whatever yet they sit on these messageboards all day and worry about review scores and discuss how bad a game is rather than enjoying as it is. Lets talk about the pros and enjoyable side once in awhile.
I'm new to Gaf (have been lurking around the Wii U thread for a good while before E3), but man, does every single Wii U thread go to the crapper??? It's ridiculous.
But why post this in a thread? Who gives a shit if you don't like something?
Everybody who posts in these Nintendo threads with no substance just wants to provoke, that's it. And many fall for them.
I'm new to Gaf (have been lurking around the Wii U thread for a good while before E3), but man, does every single Wii U thread go to the crapper??? It's ridiculous.
Because not that many people here like nintendo or their fans
Ehhhhhhhhhhh not really, most just hate Nintendo dropped out of the Graphics race and are now focusing more on non-traditional method of playing games.
Ehhhhhhhhhhh not really, most just hate Nintendo dropped out of the Graphics race and are now focusing more on non-traditional method of playing games.
Because not that many people here like nintendo or their fans
You spelled "come" wrong. Lol I had to.*booming thunder*
I have come!
I feel bad for laughing at this due to your asthma but yeah....I lol'd.The only problem I had with ST was that as an asthmatic with no musical talent, the spirit flute was a pain in the arse.
The Wii U might not be the most powerful console next gen but at least Nintendo jumped back into the graphic race and will have amazing looking games (3D Mario, Zelda, etc)
Well you know... they could go with a Majora's Mask type departure with the Mario franchise, making it dark and twisted. I'd buy it.Photoreal Mario game anyone?
Well you know... they could go with a Majora's Mask type departure with the Mario franchise, making it dark and twisted. I'd buy it.
Well you know... they could go with a Majora's Mask type departure with the Mario franchise, making it dark and twisted. I'd buy it.
That would be epic, I saw a video on youtube and it was made by someone in the gaming industry and it was a dark gritty Mario and it was very sad about what happened in the video, a dark and twisted Mario game is awesome and Nintendo did it for Zelda they can do it for Mario.
Here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xwQkZV6IpM
Warning the video is sad and dark.
That would be epic, I saw a video on youtube and it was made by someone in the gaming industry and it was a dark gritty Mario and it was very sad about what happened in the video, a dark and twisted Mario game is awesome and Nintendo did it for Zelda they can do it for Mario.
Here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xwQkZV6IpM
Warning the video is sad and dark.
O_O dude that was fucken weird and disturbing..........