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[GameplayWhore]

I completely agree. I asked him specifically how many feet but he responded in yards... He then started saying that it was in a test environment with no walls or outside interference... and then stated that it was meant for use in a large livingroom and that walls would be a big factor in range. Frequency and bandwidth affect your range. Hi frequency shortens bandwidth... You can have faster speeds but a limited range. Low frequency give you a much greater range by lengthening the bandwidth, but data transfers at a slower speed.

for reference here's chart of approximations for wifi signals...

Protocol Frequency Speed Indoor Operating Range Max (approx.)
802.11b 2.4 GHz 11Mbps 150-300 feet
802.11g 2.4 GHz 54Mbps 100-200 feet (due to 54 Mbps rate)
802.11a 5.0-5.8 GHz 54Mbps 80 feet


It could be that Nintendo's Ni-Fi uses a sweet spot for data tranfer and range but the frequency has trouble with walls... who knows...

As I understand it*, Nintendo's protocol works on top (or as a slight modification) of 802.11b/g/n, so it should have the same basic limitations with respect to barriers. The real question would be how strong does the Wifi signal need to be before the controller isn't getting enough data transmission to work well enough to be usable. It's kind of like how you used to be able to watch slightly snowy (but completely watchable!) TV in the '80s for over-the-air channels that were slightly out of range, but then in the late '90s they changed television sets so that if the signal isn't over a particular strength, you get a total blue screen. Pissed me off quite a bit.

I'm just hoping that if you go out of range, the controller keeps trying to work and just gracefully degrades with distance instead of just quitting at a certain point.




* "poorly"

 

[Hoodbury]

I don't think the next one will be about the 3DS, what else is there to talk about for the 3DS? Pretty sure they've already gone over in depth all Holiday 3DS titles.

Wii-U needs the info public so stores can start their pre-order marketing. So I guess if we're taking polls on what we think, I'd say it'll be all Wii-U related. Maybe a slight mention to check out the 3DS XL if you haven't yet though.

 

[Nibel]

Well at least we will could get big 3DS news; I seriously don't expect any big Wii U game announcements this year. Everything will probably be about launch and a release date + price is the best what we'll get.

 

[chris3116]

It'll probably be about 3DS

September conference will belong to Wii U

If the Nintendo Direct happens, it won't be for the 3DS. They don't have new things to reveal. Nintendo released the schedule for the 3DS for this holiday. Luigi's Mansion is now a 2013 game if I remember.

Here's the line-up : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=486669&highlight=noa+3ds+holiday+line+up

What is new on this?

 

[Meelow]

Well at least we will could get big 3DS news; I seriously don't expect any big Wii U game announcements this year. Everything will probably be about launch and a release date + price is the best what we'll get.

We know they will announce 2013 games at the Fall Conference, it would be a huge mistake for Nintendo to focus only at launch titles this year, people want to know what's coming in 2013 and showing launch titles will hurt them more than help.

 

[Aostia]

so we are waiting for the announcment of a possible conf where they could announce some announcments probably for 3ds but we don't know...
wow, Nintendo is really great at teasing..

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

The Super Pro controller! Available sometime next year or the year after



(I'm just kidding)

They do have the mad catz controller with analog triggers though. I know if its not implemented in the game it wont work but a multiplat game like cod or project cars I dont see why it wouldnt work. They could have a trigger options who knows..

Well at least we will could get big 3DS news; I seriously don't expect any big Wii U game announcements this year. Everything will probably be about launch and a release date + price is the best what we'll get.

I expect it. Glass half full ftw!

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

so we are waiting for the announcment of a possible conf where they could announce some announcments probably for 3ds but we don't know...
wow, Nintendo is really great at teasing..

Who you telling lol..

We know they will announce 2013 games at the Fall Conference, it would be a huge mistake for Nintendo to focus only at launch titles this year, people want to know what's coming in 2013 and showing launch titles will hurt them more than help.

Iwata said in the fall conference they want to show games for the future so that early adopters will be satisfied with their purchase. So I expect new games big ones..probably not zelda big, but you know.

 

[jacksrb]

Assuming that Nintendo is aiming for Nov. 18th AND will announce the price/lineup about 7-10 days into September like the Wii, what would they cover in a ND this week?

 

[schuelma]

Assuming that Nintendo is aiming for Nov. 18th AND will announce the price/lineup about 7-10 days into September like the Wii, what would they cover in a ND this week?

Japanese 3rd party announcements.

 

[Hoodbury]

Assuming that Nintendo is aiming for Nov. 18th AND will announce the price/lineup about 7-10 days into September like the Wii, what would they cover in a ND this week?

Well, some of us are assuming

Spoiler

hoping

that it will be a late Oct launch. So we're hoping for official launch date and price. Nintendo seems to be using ND's for these major announcements more and more. So if it's an Oct release date, that would be par for the course to announce in in August instead of September.

The Sept conference can be about 2013.

 

[Pharros]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was a ND late this week which is mainly focused on the 3ds but briefly mentions the date and pricing of the Wii U. This would be followed up by a mid September Wii U Event/ND detailing the launch/OS/future games.

 

[Hoodbury]

Japanese 3rd party announcements.

I would think Western 3rd party as well. We pretty much know there is going to be a CoD reveal at some point soon. I think there are also a couple other rumored games that we're expecting and maybe some others that haven't been hinted at yet that might be a big surprise.

 

[The_Lump]

Are you Paul Gale?

Nope.

Unless I am :/

srsly though, This ND is going to be 100% 3DS related right? Right??!

 

[DrWong]

Nope.

Unless I am :/

It's a rumor...

 

[jmizzal]

For those that have gotten to play the ZombiU how viable do you think it would be to play the game with the Wii Zapper attachment and the GamePad connected (as shown in the orignal Wii U reveal)?

Using the nunchuck to walk and the pointer to look around and shoot. Then holding the zapper with one hand (letting it drop a little) while the other is using the gamepad/bag as orignally intended. That would actually mimic real actions even more in the type of situations they're trying to presented. All other options could be still be on the controller but this is just so pointer aiming/shooting could be done. Could the game be playable without any issues?

Also no need to swing the controller for melee. Just use the buttons.

You know what that might actually work as an option, with how light the WiiU pad is it shouldnt been heavy at all.

 

[schuelma]

Also keep an eye on Famitsu tomorrow. If there is a Nintendo Direct with Wii U stuff Famitsu might have the official reveal of titles.

 

[Bumhead]

I'd be quite content for the next 3DS to focus mainly on the 3DS, but for them to confirm a time scale or even an exact date for the conference where they will reveal the Wii U stuff.

 

[Effect]

We've all made the assumption I believe that Nintendo at some point is going to do a big information dump on the system leading up to launch. What if they don't? What if Nintendo still has no idea how to really push this system? Do they alienate the core gamer again by focusing on Nintendo Land and Wii Fit U or do they focus on Pikmin 3, Zombi U? If NSMB2 sales are lackluster do they focus on NSMBU or put that on the back burner? Do they simply just cave and focus on the operating system (friends list, eShop, etc)?

Did they even bother to do that with the Wii? I'm honestly asking this as the Wii wasn't on my radar at all until after it launched.

There is a lot of information to cover. Thing is I'm between Nintendo not wanting to spend a lot of time to cover it all themselves and not being able to cover it properly given how they've handled the Wii U up until now. That idea that they'll do something completely different to answer all questions doesn't seem like like something they've done in the past.

 

[schuelma]

We've all made the assumption I believe that Nintendo at some point is going to do a big information dump on the system leading up to launch. What if they don't? What if Nintendo still has no idea how to really push this system? Do they alienate the core gamer again by focusing on Nintendo Land and Wii Fit U or do they focus on Pikmin 3, Zombi U? If NSMB2 sales are lackluster do they focus on NSMBU or put that on the back burner? Do they simply just cave and focus on the operating system (friends list, eShop, etc)?

Did they even bother to do that with the Wii? I'm honestly asking this as the Wii wasn't on my radar at all until after it launched.

There is a lot of information to cover. Thing is I'm between Nintendo not wanting to spend a lot of time to cover it all themselves and not being able to cover it properly given how they've handled the Wii U up until now. That idea that they'll do something completely different to answer all questions doesn't seem like like something they've done in the past.

Nintendo had a September event in all regions where price and launch info was divulged I believe.

We also know from Iwata's statements that Japanese support will be announced sometime as well.

 

[jmizzal]

Nope.

Unless I am :/

srsly though, This ND is going to be 100% 3DS related right? Right??!

Nintendo has way too much info that they need to talk about for WiiU to save it all for Sept Conf.

Price, release date, whats in the box, more on online (Gaming, eShop, etc)

Japaneses support, 2013 games, offically announce Activision games

All of the WiiU pad functions, and other things the system can do

Plus more info on launch games

Way too much stuff they need Nintendo direct and Fall Conf.

 

[GameplayWhore]

srsly though, This ND is going to be 100% 3DS related right? Right??!

Maybe it'll be about their new mobile app division. I think I heard an analyst saying they should do that.

 

[10k]

I look forward to coming home and seeing a ND announced that will be about

Spoiler

more 3DS stuff. :/

I don't think the next one will be about the 3DS, what else is there to talk about for the 3DS? Pretty sure they've already gone over in depth all Holiday 3DS titles.

Wii-U needs the info public so stores can start their pre-order marketing. So I guess if we're taking polls on what we think, I'd say it'll be all Wii-U related. Maybe a slight mention to check out the 3DS XL if you haven't yet though.

Well at least we will could get big 3DS news; I seriously don't expect any big Wii U game announcements this year. Everything will probably be about launch and a release date + price is the best what we'll get.

Here, let me save people time.

Nintendo announces a Nintendo direct for wednesday the 22nd.
The show begins with news about how successful the launch of the 3DSXL and NSMB2 did worldwide.
A new paper Mario trailer is shown
Another luigis mansion trailer is shown
Fire emblem is shown and announced for north America with an official release date
New 3DS bundles are announced
Iwata/Reggie say look forward to more Wii U news as the holidays come along.
/End

GAF freaks out with a bunch of "notlikethis.jpg" and "omg this company never learns" and a meltdown occurs.

Then people start speculating about how the big bombs will be dropped off at the imaginary fall conference or TGS.

How am I doing?

 

[1-UP]

How am I doing?

7/10.

 

[Anth0ny]

Here, let me save people time.

Nintendo announces a Nintendo direct for wednesday the 22nd.
The show begins with news about how successful the launch of the 3DSXL and NSMB2 did worldwide.
A new paper Mario trailer is shown
Another luigis mansion trailer is shown
Fire emblem is shown and announced for north America with an official release date
New 3DS bundles are announced
Iwata/Reggie say look forward to more Wii U news as the holidays come along.
/End

GAF freaks out with a bunch of "notlikethis.jpg" and "omg this company never learns" and a meltdown occurs.

Then people start speculating about how the big bombs will be dropped off at the imaginary fall conference or TGS.

How am I doing?

Sounds about right.

 

[Pharros]

Here, let me save people time.

Nintendo announces a Nintendo direct for wednesday the 22nd.
The show begins with news about how successful the launch of the 3DSXL and NSMB2 did worldwide.
A new paper Mario trailer is shown
Another luigis mansion trailer is shown
Fire emblem is shown and announced for north America with an official release date
New 3DS bundles are announced
Iwata/Reggie say look forward to more Wii U news as the holidays come along. /End

GAF freaks out with a bunch of "notlikethis.jpg" and "omg this company never learns" and a meltdown occurs.

Then people start speculating about how the big bombs will be dropped off at the imaginary fall conference or TGS.

How am I doing?

I can picture Reggie's little smile as he says the bolded..

 

[Nostremitus]

As I understand it*, Nintendo's protocol works on top (or as a slight modification) of 802.11b/g/n, so it should have the same basic limitations with respect to barriers. The real question would be how strong does the Wifi signal need to be before the controller isn't getting enough data transmission to work well enough to be usable. It's kind of like how you used to be able to watch slightly snowy (but completely watchable!) TV in the '80s for over-the-air channels that were slightly out of range, but then in the late '90s they changed television sets so that if the signal isn't over a particular strength, you get a total blue screen. Pissed me off quite a bit.

I'm just hoping that if you go out of range, the controller keeps trying to work and just gracefully degrades with distance instead of just quitting at a certain point.




* "poorly"

Well, considering that *g* has a minimun approx range of 100feet @ 54MbPS and 30 yards is only 90feet... seems feasible.

however, the steady degradation you're refering to is from an anolog signal, digital signals are either connected and on, or disconnected and off...

An RF transmitter for the controller wouldn't really be feasible for the video signal unless they packed in a directional antenna, but then they'd have people complaining about radiation, lol

 

[MDX]

Well, some of us are assuming

Spoiler

hoping

that it will be a late Oct launch. So we're hoping for official launch date and price. Nintendo seems to be using ND's for these major announcements more and more. So if it's an Oct release date, that would be par for the course to announce in in August instead of September.

The Sept conference can be about 2013.

Yep, this is what Im thinking.

 

[PhantomR]

Then people start speculating about how the big bombs will be dropped off at the imaginary fall conference or TGS.

How am I doing?

Imaginary fall conference? *Sigh*

9/13/2012

 

[jerd]

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/nintendo-wii-u/accessories?nav=131b0-58

Anyone else see this yet?

Probably doesn't mean same time as release but they are all dated November 6th...

Edit: That charging station is awesome.

 

[Meelow]

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/nintendo-wii-u/accessories?nav=131b0-58

Anyone else see this yet?

Probably doesn't mean same time as release but they are all dated November 6th...

Edit: That charging station is awesome.

That Charging Station is epic.

 

[Nibel]

Nvm

 

[jmizzal]

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/nintendo-wii-u/accessories?nav=131b0-58

Anyone else see this yet?

Probably doesn't mean same time as release but they are all dated November 6th...

Edit: That charging station is awesome.

Do want that Charging station

 

[10k]

Imaginary fall conference? *Sigh*

9/13/2012

Is that the official date or something?

 

[mimho]

Hamletic question..... 3d or not 3d?

I've see, some pages ago, the covers of Batmans game (all versions), but in the Ps360 we have the "3d" logo, not in the Wiiu version.

So, no 3D at all (avoiding issues with the new controller)

Or yes 3D, and a not definitive version of the cover?

 

[10k]

Guys! Wikipedia claims the Wii U is being released in north America on October 28th! Lol. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_in_video_gaming#section_2

 

[jmizzal]

Guys! Wikipedia claims the Wii U is being released in north America on October 28th! Lol. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_in_video_gaming#section_2

Quick make a thread lol

 

[GameplayWhore]

Guys! Wikipedia claims the Wii U is being released in north America on October 28th! Lol. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_in_video_gaming#section_2

I'm glad the matter is finally settled.

So, no 3D at all (avoiding issues with the new controller)

I don't see how support for 3D would impact the controller at all.


edit: to clarify, first half of message snarky, second half serious.

 

[Pharros]

Guys! Wikipedia claims the Wii U is being released in north America on October 28th! Lol. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_in_video_gaming#section_2

It's even a Sunday, must be legit!

 

[brainpann]

Guys, IF we get a ND soon, it will obviously be about

Spoiler

Circle Pad Pro XL

for the 3DS

Spoiler

XL

.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Is there going to be an American Nintendo Direct, too?

I do not usually expect large (international) news unless there is an American corollary.

 

[Nostremitus]

On an unrelated note, I was looking at the pro controllers and realized something...

The stick placement makes it look like the basic design was to make it look like two nunchucks melded together to form a normal contoller...

Maybe to goal wasn't to look like a 360 controller, but ergonomics won out and it happened to resemble it in the end...

 

[lordfroakie]

Guys! Wikipedia claims the Wii U is being released in north America on October 28th! Lol. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_in_video_gaming#section_2

On my birthday? Nice!

 

[Hakai]

On an unrelated note, I was looking at the pro controllers and realized something...

The stick placement makes it look like the basic design was to make it look like two nunchucks melded together to form a normal contoller...

Maybe to goal wasn't to look like a 360 controller, but ergonomics won out and it happened to resemble it in the end...

Yeah! Or it could just be a coincidence, but you have a point.

 

[Tehalemi]

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/nintendo-wii-u/accessories?nav=131b0-58

Anyone else see this yet?

Curious, the link also shows Wii U Write & Protect as an accessory. Does anyone know what this would actually do, or is this a placeholder for the name/product?

On an unrelated note, I was looking at the pro controllers and realized something...

The stick placement makes it look like the basic design was to make it look like two nunchucks melded together to form a normal contoller...

Maybe to goal wasn't to look like a 360 controller, but ergonomics won out and it happened to resemble it in the end...

-looks at picture-

Cannot unsee!!!

 

[Shokio]

Still mad that after TWO E3 conference and many Nintendo Directs, we don't know a thing about Nintendo Network, and we're only a few months from launch. Only Nintendo could accomplish this.

 

[1-UP]

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/nintendo-wii-u/accessories?nav=131b0-58

Wii U launch date confirmed. Believe.

 

[NateDrake]

Is there going to be an American Nintendo Direct, too?

I do not usually expect large (international) news unless there is an American corollary.

Each time America has had a ND the news has been significant with 3DS XL being the last major announcement. If we have a ND this week, I expect some Wii U focus because 3DS for the remainder of the year has been announced already.

 

[MDX]

Still mad that after TWO E3 conference and many Nintendo Directs, we don't know a thing about Nintendo Network, and we're only a few months from launch. Only Nintendo could accomplish this.

Im fine with it.
I enjoy being surprised.
I dont want to know everything about the console
before getting a chance to discover it myself.

 

[TheJerit]

Curious, the link also shows Wii U Write & Protect as an accessory. Does anyone know what this would actually do, or is this a placeholder for the name/product?

I noticed that too. I wonder if it's just a stylus and screen protector package (with maybe another tiny thing or two thrown in)?