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Wii U Community Thread
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GameplayWhore
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Could you post a link to where his assertion was shown to be inaccurate? I'm particularly curious about this, as many have taken it for granted in their calculations
edit:NSMBWii could not handle this lighting.
Is it bad that I thought that you had posted two Wii U screenshots :/
They really should have a Rayman Origins-esque HUB world where you can select your character... there are enough in the Mario universe where it shouldn't be hard to come up with at least 10.
There actually is one level from the NSMBU trailers that I think looks really cool. I didn't notice it until my third or so viewing of the trailer. The whole level looks like Starry Night.
It is much more impressive in motion. You can see a snippet of it in this video:
http://youtu.be/5XM6lyqr4vI?hd=1&t=44s
bgassassin
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The rumor was more than 2GB of memory in the dev kit (which we know it was 3GB at least in the beginning) and at least 512MB reserved for OS and functions for the system memory in the dev kit.
Never sounded like storage flash to me.
As for the final I can see it easily exceeding 100MB considering what Wii U is supposed to do.
Jesus people just look at the coins!!! They're so much better now.
CoinsXWii multiplier CONFIRMED
lwilliams3
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Since Apana specifically asked how the power will benefit a Zelda game from the Wii to Wii U:
-HD
Better game image quality {IQ} Better game screenshots, which is nice since the Wii U OS allows screen captures.
- More polygons
More detailed models for Link and other characters, as well as more geometry details in the world itself. An example of that is the Wii U Zelda Demo with an improved Link and Spider model that was the Wii would have not been able to do along with a detailed environment.
-Higher texture sizes
Better quality textures that will improve the appearance of Zelda's dungeons and world. (example: better looking grass, floors, and walls.)
-More advance physics simulations
Better animation and collisions for Link and other characters. Potentially more realistic environmental damage from weapons and characters. (Ex: Bombs or throwing an iron ball doing more realistic damage to the environment.)
-Newer and better graphics techniques (ex:shaders)
Better lighting on characters and the environment. (Ex: Light reflecting of the Mirror Shield) Further model improvements with dents and bumps, more realistic water, etc
-Bigger disc capacity for stuff like videos or game content
And music, as well as potentially bigger and more worlds.
Also:
-More RAM
More seamlessly flowing worlds, easier for game to keep track of NPCs within the world and changes in the environment ( Ex: Majora Mask with RAM pack compared to Ocarina of Time.)
bgassassin
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Makes you wonder what a "New Yoshi's Island" would look like.
GameplayWhore
Member
For reference, here is IdeaMan's clarification post.
To try to be even more clear, with a new info in it:
- My sources told me there is a huge amount of the total memory (at least 512MB) that they can't tap from for their games. They are developing their titles since a moment now, with X amount of the Y total system memory, whereas another pool of it, Z, is not available at all for them. I was told back then that this Z was for the system features, it INCLUDES the OS, the operating system, the "windows" of the Wii U, that will be loaded in the memory when you turn on the console, but it doesn't constitute ALL what Z is, i've heard a lot of things about multi-tasking, the possibility to store your progression in games (so the system must store quickly where you are, etc.), go do other things in the interface, then switch back when you paused.
Concretely, the OS could have a size of let's say 200MB, but there will still be 300MB not available for developers because Nintendo, in a v4 dev kit context (so it could change), need this room for the system functions, features.
- Another source, that you know well lherre () told me, and this is the new tidbit, that the OS is stored in a specific flash, different than the other flash memory that will be built-in the system for downloading, saves, etc. Like a lot of other platforms actually (they need a specific type of flash dedicated for the OS, the firmware upgrades, etc.). The size of this flash seems to be 512MB. Obviously, it doesn't mean the OS is 512mb, and that it will occupy 512MB once loaded in the RAM memory, because 1) the OS surely won't take 512MB and 2) the system won't need to load everything on the RAM memory. Again, they could have decided on this amount in advance and being large for it because the OS wasn't fleshed out at all at the time. The OS could actually take let's say 200 MB (i don't know it's amount) of this space. The fact is that i don't think we've ever seen such room reserved for OS storage, so it's clearly another hint, in addition to the first info, to a bigger operating system than on the other home systems, rich in features, in functions (functions that requires another space in the RAM memory, like the aforementioned multi-tasking).
I hope i was crystal-clear
The ≥512MB RAM reserved for system functions on the dev kit and the 512MB flash storage wherein the OS resides were both asserted as separate items by IdeaMan. He did not confuse the two. He also did not state that the OS used 512MB RAM when loaded, just that Nintendo reserved that amount for their discretion in that revision of the dev kit (and, presumed by others here, by the final console), though this reservation quantity could decrease.
Mind, I am not specifically asserting that his information is correct. I am refuting the suggestion that he was confusing memory and storage in his posts. This was a concern that he specifically fielded.
Basically Super Mario Galaxy 2 with drug effects.
Smiles and Cries
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I want more EPIC YARN in HD
I'm so jelly... I can't wait to get my fingerprints all over it
I'm so jelly... I can't wait to get my fingerprints all over it
JordanN
Banned
Source? I would love this to be true.
bgassassin
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Yeah he was always clear about that. And the whole ≥512MB RAM started from ozfunghi asking IM about the amount of memory dedicated to the OS. I would be very surprised to see the final amount at 512MB let alone be above it.
What level of drug are we talking?
I want Pro Wrestling resurrected...in HD.
Smiles and Cries
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STARMAN in HD?!
gamergirly
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Seriously, Black or Nintendie. I dont want Twizzler pieces on a White Wii U
They really should have a Rayman Origins-esque HUB world where you can select your character... there are enough in the Mario universe where it shouldn't be hard to come up with at least 10.
There actually is one level from the NSMBU trailers that I think looks really cool. I didn't notice it until my third or so viewing of the trailer. The whole level looks like Starry Night.
It is much more impressive in motion. You can see a snippet of it in this video:
http://youtu.be/5XM6lyqr4vI?hd=1&t=44s
Yes, that's my favorite section from the trailer.
Smiles and Cries
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Yes, that's my favorite section from the trailer.
this stage alone will force me to buy this... and I am not a NSMB fan
GameplayWhore
Member
We're talking BIG Fuzzy!
I've actually been having daydreams about this over the past few days. A ridiculously extensive CAW system with free online trading, creation of stables, creation of promotions/federations, custom online titles, and the ability to host your own Pay Per Views, with (for example), one player in total control booking the matches, others doing the actual fighting, others passively watching the show from their separate Wii U systems or computers or smart phones. Seriously, we need a real revolution in wrestling games.
Anyway, bonus video for you: Star Man is actually on the roster for indy promotion Pro Wrestling Syndicate.
Thunder Monkey
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If you think I'm a monkey that grooms and bathes himself on a daily basis... I don't know what to tell you.
I change my diaper once a day!
Reggie said launch window is 3-4 months so Project P-100 should be Jan or Feb
hum... I was watching this video looking for new information and the girl said some things...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO80LBV6l4M
Looks like for You Shape the achievments will be in game... that made me think about wii u not having a unified achievment tracking.
Also, in the end of the video while a girl is exercising a guy just pick up a wiimote, waves it and the game recognizes him, that surprised me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO80LBV6l4M
Looks like for You Shape the achievments will be in game... that made me think about wii u not having a unified achievment tracking.
Also, in the end of the video while a girl is exercising a guy just pick up a wiimote, waves it and the game recognizes him, that surprised me.
The reason the increased hardware power is most interesting in regards to Nintendo is because of how efficient a company they can be when it comes to tech. Just look at what they got Mario Galaxy to look like on the Wii. All of that was from not only clever use of the tech, but also art direction that fit with it.
I honestly could not tell if the bottom screenshot was from Wii or U. The only reason I knew the top screenshot was from U was because I recognized it from somewhere else having to do with the game.
edit:NSMBWii could not handle this lighting.
I honestly could not tell if the bottom screenshot was from Wii or U. The only reason I knew the top screenshot was from U was because I recognized it from somewhere else having to do with the game.
It'll be pretty lame if the Wii U doesn't have any system-wide achievement system, there's a huge demand for them like it or not, and no reason or excuse not to include it. Plus, there's a number of Nintendo titles that I think would benefit, especially as a competitive type of thing. A perfect structure would be a Trophy-esque system tied into a per account based Wii U leaderboard, showing time played, what's done, how long it took, and even a rivalry feature could be cool.
The horrible jaggies are a giveaway.
I don't know how much the girl knew about the system but, it seems to me, that each game will have it's achievments and leaderboard structure and all your friends that are also playin' that game will be connected. But she didn't say anything about system-wide tracking of the achievments. I don't know what to think... I mean... since you will have all the functions ... but not in a unified place. Obviously this is my understanding of what she said.
JordanN
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I recommend booking a trip to an optometrist dude. The difference is night and day (and that's not even a full res pic either).
Nintendo Accomplishments.
I know, I was just responding in respect to what cand said. But hopefully that pic means what we think it means.
Could be about the in game accomplishments. Since doesn't say anything about points for wii u accomplishments....
Seriously...
It also doesn't list Xbox 360 Achievement points.
It says 1000 GamerScore, this is for Xbox360
That's because they we don't know what the Accomplishments will act like, if it's like the Gamerscore or the Trophie, btw I was talking about under the name "Achievements/Trophies/Accomplishments.
That it doesn't list Gamerscore or the Accomplishments, and Nintendo confirmed at E3 the Wii U will have them and they are using the name Accomplishments for the 3DS Street pass.
Yes but none of this actualy makes impossible that the accomplishments turn out to be in game features. Same way the 3ds ones are just for mii plaza.
Nintendo refused to publish or advertise Conker, precisely because it was so mature. So there goes your theory
Check out these screenshots on Amazon.de
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B008CPEZ6A/
You can see that there is a huge difference in resolution
Well it is a 2D mario game so realism isn't really the goal. I don't think the screens are even comparable though and I would be the very last person to ask in regards to minor graphical differences. Mario actually looks like Mario rather than skin colored jaggy with mustache colored jaggy on it
YOU CAN SEE HIS BLUE EYES WTF!
they didn't even publish 1999's conker's pocket tales because it was so irredeemably mature.
Thunder Monkey
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It's almost like Rare was seeking autonomy at the time!
Comandr
Member
Nothing but a miserable little pile of screenshots.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
What a refreshing read. Thank you.
In this episode: can an EA representative make a plain statement without contradicting themselves at least two times?
Yes? Let's see.
WiiU is just 'as similar' to those two as the two are among themselves. Somebody missed the memo.
Clearly all EA games on the 360 are targeting Kinect, and the company's ps3 titles are Move-only. And none of those games get PC versions. Ever.
Chet Rippo
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It was pretty hard core, no doubt.
What's so miserable about them Comandr?
The included peripherals with a system can not be compared to after-market. EVER.
But if you want an exception? BALANCE BOARD.
Could be a point-free system, since the score e-peen is useless when people rake up point playing shitty Dora the Explorer games or getting achievement points for trying to angle the camera up Juliet's dress in Lollipop Chainsaw.
If they were individual to each game without any ties to the system, why would they require a name standardization? That's a trick question, cuz they wouldn't.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The only good achievements are the ones integrated into game rewards, eg Uncharted and Mass Effect. Both of those games did achievements right.
Apparently you missed the question mark was inside parentheses and the "lulwut
I was irritated because you mentioned Aliens:CM along with it. You never know with all the crazy in here.
Forced "innovation" leads to a lot of crap that doesn't need to exist.
"shake Wiimote to walk forward" kinda stuff ...
Nintendo Accomplishments.
seriously? ... again?
What, you didn't like hauling a garden gnome throughout the entirety of Half-Life 2 Episode 2?
I was just thinking, even if Nintendo decided to reveal the specs.
It wouldnt do them any good.
For example
The 360 has 3 cores, and lets say the 720 does have either 6 or 8.
If the WiiU has 3 or even 4, the average person would say what?
That the WiiU is closer to current gen than to next gen, just by the numbers.
By the time someone tries to explain that is not the case, its too late.
The technical explanation would just go over their heads anyway.
Nintendo is only revealing numbers that makes them look as good
as next gen. For example, promoting 1080p. No next gen console
will do any better on a TV.
It wouldnt do them any good.
For example
The 360 has 3 cores, and lets say the 720 does have either 6 or 8.
If the WiiU has 3 or even 4, the average person would say what?
That the WiiU is closer to current gen than to next gen, just by the numbers.
By the time someone tries to explain that is not the case, its too late.
The technical explanation would just go over their heads anyway.
Nintendo is only revealing numbers that makes them look as good
as next gen. For example, promoting 1080p. No next gen console
will do any better on a TV.
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