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[Mihael Mello Keehl]

That's really narrow minded. It's honestly no better than 'Nintendo consoles only have Mario games'. Apart from the fact that the games you describe make up a fraction of the library, you're totally overlooking XBLA & PSN. That's the kind of lack of perspective that I feel results from a steadfast adherence to a single console manufacturer.

That is for someone who hasnt played other consoles too. I really agree with him.

I got a Wii in december the year it launched, got 360 in summer 07(I'am a very competitive madden player so I would be a fool to get it on Wii). I had become a full blown 360 gamer then. I played all the gears,Lost planets,RE5,FFXIII, all the halos, all the cods, experienced online multiplayer like never before and then some xbla. I find myself mid-late 2011 growing very bored and dull of these franchise and playstyles it became ridiculous. It was almost like every game offering the same experience shoot this and this, not only limited to shooters but also gta iv, and assassincreed series which I put the games down sooner than my money was worth it. I thought I was seriously growing out of games. I went back to ps2 played the KH series and that sort of renewed my gaming desired. Played Wii titles I skipped over SMGs, play DKCR, bought xenoblade, and just recently beat Skyward sword. I felt real dumb to myself skipping these games for no real reason I managed to jump start my interest in gaming again and having fun again. Now Im not saying thise multiplats and 360/ps3 titles are bad but they are kind of less gamey feeling to me. I mean I still enjoy them but no they did not matched the experiences I had with the games on the Wii at all. It was like night and day. I only managed to feel that way on only a few games on 360 and they were, respectfully dark souls and Bayonetta. Currently playing through xenoblade and having a great time.

 

[frankie_baby]

Yeah, that's certainly an odd one. No idea what happened there, or why they bought it. I guess it was part of something bigger, related to the many other Nintendo/ KoeiTecmo collaborations. Part of a package deal or something.

Tecmo: we'll develop some games for you if you buy this random IP off us that never really sells any good
Iwata: laughs

 

[wsippel]

Tecmo: we'll develop some games for you if you buy this random IP off us that never really sells any good
Iwata: laughs

Yes, something like this. I guess.

 

[XenodudeX]

That's really narrow minded.

It's not narrow minded. It's very true for a lot of people.

 

[SmokyDave]

I don't know man. Its perfectly fine for someone to consider Nintendo games to be the best this medium has to offer, won't you agree?

Absolutely, as individuals. I was more commenting on why average people might feel the need to question individual tastes. Lord knows my tastes certainly don't jive with everyone. People tend to generalise, if 8 out of 10 people like Game X, they want to know what's wrong with the other two people, not what's wrong with the game.

I have little time left for gaming these days, so I prefer to buy stuff that I will enjoy greatly. I own all last gen platforms (DS, PSP, PS3, 360, Wii, Decent PC, Iphone) but I think I will not buy all next gen stuff. I have a 3DS, WiiU and I am planning to buy a PS4 but that will be more then enough for me. Vita and the next xbox will have to wait when I have more free time (if that ever happens).

That's fair enough, I tend to buy every platform but I won't pretend I enjoy every platform.

I'm not trying to pick a scrap with single format gamers, I was just trying to explain why it raises eyebrows to the point where people feel the need to question others, even if they perhaps shouldn't.

That is for someone who hasnt played other consoles too. I really agree with him.

As you should if that's how you feel. Again though, you only listed blockbuster AAA franchises which isn't necessarily a fair representation of what that platform has to offer. For every GTA, there's a Fez. For every Forza 4, there's a Trials Evolution. The idea that the 360 & PS3 only have 'cinematic anti-games' or whatever term you choose, is patently false.

It's not narrow minded. It's very true for a lot of people.

So is 'Nintendo only make kiddy / Mario games' to a lot of people.

 

[Sinnick]

I think the reason that 'Nintendo only' gamers raise eyebrows on a games forum is because it's like being a 'pulled pork only' diner on a food forum. The fact is that anyone going single platform only (especially Nintendo) has missed out on a humongous number of phenomenal gaming experiences, many of which are considered amongst the greatest the medium has to offer. When a multi-format gamer starts to mentally list the titles that have never appeared on a single given format, it can quickly lead to incredulity that an enthusiast of the medium has never experienced any of those titles.

Having said that, nobody should feel 'forced' to defend their preferences and the incredulity I described above is probably best kept to oneself.

First, I truly believe a number of these posters are viral marketers. As for the rest of them, I agree with the above. However, what gets me is if I was look into what many of these multi-console owners actually value most about the software they buy, I probably wouldn't even categorize them as gamers. Thus, from my perspective, I find it humorous that potentially a bunch of non-gamers are directing snarky comments at people who probably are gamers in an effort to delegitimize them.

 

[gamergirly]

First, I truly believe a number of these posters are viral marketers. As for the rest of them, I agree with the above. However, what gets me is if I was look into what many of these multi-console owners actually value most about the software they buy, I probably wouldn't even categorize them as gamers. Thus, from my perspective, I find it humorous that potentially a bunch of non-gamers are directing snarky comments at people who probably are gamers in an effort to delegitimize them.

It's that hive mind. The same mentality that will make someone jump off a bridge because everyone around them said it's okay to do it

 

[?oe?oe]

So is 'Nintendo only make kiddy / Mario games' to a lot of people.

"Boring games" are an opinion. Saying 'Nintendo only make kiddy / Mario games" is ignorance.

 

[Christberg]

I think the reason that 'Nintendo only' gamers raise eyebrows on a games forum is because it's like being a 'pulled pork only' diner on a food forum. The fact is that anyone going single platform only (especially Nintendo) has missed out on a humongous number of phenomenal gaming experiences, many of which are considered amongst the greatest the medium has to offer. When a multi-format gamer starts to mentally list the titles that have never appeared on a single given format, it can quickly lead to incredulity that an enthusiast of the medium has never experienced any of those titles.

Having said that, nobody should feel 'forced' to defend their preferences and the incredulity I described above is probably best kept to oneself.


You're not exactly above the 'vile' fray, are you?

Smiles and Cries is on my Wii U friends list. And I can tell you with 100% confidence that he's a legit, hardcore, Nintendo only gamer. God bless him for it.

As somebody who's a Nintendo + PC first, everything else gravy type of guy I can tell you that I view people who skip Nintendo entirely with damn near the same level of incredulity. A video game industry without Nintendo is roughly equivalent to a movie industry without Disney and Dreamworks in it. Your game diet is significantly narrowed without them in it. And no, your indie/spelunking in the PS360 library doesn't even come close to addressing that gap.

 

[SmokyDave]

"Boring games" are an opinion. Saying 'Nintendo only make kiddy / Mario games" is ignorance.

I'd say that calling game that aren't on Nintendo platforms 'boring' was totally ignorant too.

Smiles and Cries is on my Wii U friends list. And I can tell you with 100% confidence that he's a legit, hardcore, Nintendo only gamer. God bless him for it.

As somebody who's a Nintendo + PC first, everything else gravy type of guy I can tell you that I view people who skip Nintendo entirely with damn near the same level of incredulity. A video game industry without Nintendo is roughly equivalent to a movie industry without Disney and Dreamworks in it. Your game diet is significantly narrowed without them in it. And no, your indie/spelunking in the PS360 library doesn't even come close to addressing that gap.

I agree, which is why I own all platforms (except the Wii-U, which is why I was looking in here). Your last sentence seems like a pointlessly snide dig though. Again, you don't seem to realise what the PS3 / 360 library actually offers. I guess that's my issue with single-console peeps in a nutshell.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

As you should if that's how you feel. Again though, you only listed blockbuster AAA franchises which isn't necessarily a fair representation of what that platform has to offer. For every GTA, there's a Fez. For every Forza 4, there's a Trials Evolution. The idea that the 360 & PS3 only have 'cinematic anti-games' or whatever term you choose, is patently false.

Like I said I played through xbla, not sure you read that but yes, I have xbla games Splosion man, splosion woman, trials, castle crashers, happy wars, Trine 2, the list goes on. I also know that these titles still arent so very great to me. And no those are not the only titles that those consoles have but the CODs, assassin creed, gears, halo are the ones you see everywhere commercials, advertising. Yet on Nintendo consoles you will see their franchises in those positions. Those xbla titles are ok but never in a million years could they be played as some sort of Nintendo equivalents to play on 360. When someone is buying a ps4/720 no way in hell the first reasoning would be to buy because of xbla/psn. Might as well stay with 360 and or buy a vita or ps3 to keep playing those types of titles no reason to jump.

 

[?oe?oe]

I'd say that calling game that aren't on Nintendo platforms 'boring' was totally ignorant too.

That depends if a person has played it or not.

 

[xandaca]

I think the reason that 'Nintendo only' gamers raise eyebrows on a games forum is because it's like being a 'pulled pork only' diner on a food forum. The fact is that anyone going single platform only (especially Nintendo) has missed out on a humongous number of phenomenal gaming experiences, many of which are considered amongst the greatest the medium has to offer. When a multi-format gamer starts to mentally list the titles that have never appeared on a single given format, it can quickly lead to incredulity that an enthusiast of the medium has never experienced any of those titles.

Or maybe people just happen to like Nintendo games, which are generally quite different from what the rest of the industry is doing? I traditionally use a Nintendo console and a PC and there are relatively few games exclusive to the other consoles which are of interest. While I do enjoy some mainstream stuff for popcorn gaming (COD), the vast majority of third party gameplay experiences tend to feel pretty samey or uninspired to me. (I don't get the love for Mass Effect, Uncharted, Halo, Gears, Arkham, etc. at all). Off the top of my head, there are maybe eight current gen games I'd have to buy another console for (Journey, Lollipop Chainsaw, Shadows Of The Damned, Deadly Premonition, MGS4, maybe Revengeance, Ico/Colossus HD, Bayonetta) and most of those are only moderate interest. I don't even buy much on PC and since teh graffiks could not be any less important to me, Nintendo (whose characters I have enjoyed most of my life) are a fine fit as my primary gaming platform - which is not to say they don't do a hell of a lot wrong, but that's a different matter.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

This thread was nice while it lasted.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

This thread was nice while it lasted.

Wii U games in 2013

yea we are off-topic lol.

 

[SmokyDave]

This thread was nice while it lasted.

Eh, get back to it man. I have no intention of further engaging these black and white views, it's weirding me out.

 

[friskykillface]

But why have 3 games come out in one week?
cmon Nintendo, get your release dates right, even if they are 3rd party



i am buying all three next week- lego, monster, need from target for $120+ tax

im gonna be busy lol

 

[Yagharek]

I'm tempted to double dip on revelations if it's a nice upgrade.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

But why have 3 games come out in one week?
cmon Nintendo, get your release dates right, even if they are 3rd party



i am buying all three next week- lego, monster, need from target for $120+ tax

im gonna be busy lol

I wish they would just get rid of the release dates and just release when done
it's not like they are marketing those 3 hard at all

those should be my 3 for the month as well cannot wait NFS demo would be nice right now

 

[zroid]

So jealous of your Target sale in the States

 

[campfireweekend]

Eh, get back to it man. I have no intention of further engaging these black and white views, it's weirding me out.

Then what was your original purpose? I'm sure someone would love to help you

 

[Dorito Pope]

I have had to answer this same question a lot around here since November.

Your question may sound reasonable but who said I would have enjoyed a PS3 experience for my money?

I think people assume Nintendo fans are fools for not having the same tastes as them or assume a one console owner is not a gamer. They have not earned that status.

Still why would anyone come in a Nintendo thread and tell me I made a poor choice though? Like I said I have seen the question before so it is not for you alone I am making this statement.

But I ask WTF do they know about my life and how I live? I don't enjoy peer pressure to make choices for me even for a hobby. What I enjoy may not be for you. :/

I am on GAF because I love Gaming and Nintendo has been a major part of that experience for me.

I wish I had more choices for my hobby but in the end it comes down to money. I don't own a PS3 or 360 for the same reasons I don't own an iPhone. Can't afford the upkeep to feed the platforms be it monthly fees or software, it is that simple. Owning it all has less to do about choices or even the purpose of my hobby.

I would waste money on something that has more to do with status in this community, to give me the image of a core gamer in the eyes of my peers. But that purchase would have nothing to do with the bliss you are talking about, that bliss for me has always been a really good Nintendo IP that gave me some escape from my daily life. That is meaning of a hobby. I am a fan because I am here for the love of the hobby, not the status of what I own. I can't afford it.


Right now I'm going to cut down on my gaming purchase habits to save for my next macbook pro

You could post the same fanboy question and ask why not a PC? The answer would be the same I prefer the Apple OS experience as I do love my Nintendo IP habits.

In the end I have already spent enough on Wii U software that would have gotten me both a PS3 and 360. The result is I have a nice backlog here that I am enjoying and that Nintendo IP is yet to come.

Not saying I could not have found bliss on PS3 just saying my money is Very Limit so I spent it on what will deliver that experience.

I was going to get a PS4 but I really need this new mac so by this time in October I will be ready after my new laptop purchase to jump in Next Gen. I hope, but after saving and spending for that Mac I could very easily end up Wii U only next year, again wish I had the Money for more choices.

I never had the money it takes to support a multiplatform hobby so I made ONE choice each generation and focus on that, I do miss out but it is not like I had the money for every hyped game. So if I ever PORT BEG it would be to save money not because I am a fan of one Company.

We should not expect everyone to spend money for the sake of what we think is hot and cool some people are poor and food is more important than the status among our peers. I spend on what I know will make me happy, I had a blast with my Wii U so far and it has been a very expensive party. I made the right choice for me

My choices has less to do with Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, it is about me, my life my money.

Your hobby should be about you.

I own a Wii U I am in this thread to find out what is coming that I may want to put some funds aside for. /END

Part of the reason I ask is this is because I've seen you post pics of the Wii U games you bought off the eShop and a large majority of them are third-party games. You could have gotten all of those games for much cheaper prices at this point used on the PS3 as well as enjoy other gaming experiences that you've missed out on. And then later buy a Wii U once those Nintendo IPs come out (because clearly, looking at this list, that ain't happening anytime soon).

Personally, I think that only owning a Nintendo console (no matter how great those Nintendo IPs may be) leaves you missing out on a large part of the gaming generation. Until I got a gaming PC, I only owned a Wii and while games such as Super Mario Galaxy were great, I missed out on a ton of other games that were pivotal to gaming as a whole such as Mass Effect, Bioshock, Uncharted, Batman: Arkham Asylum. Nintendo consoles are great for Nintendo IPs and the rare third-party exclusive but I couldn't use it as a main console throughout a generation. In fact, I already own a Wii U but plan on getting a PS4 to function as my "third-party box".

 

[SmokyDave]

Then what was your original purpose? I'm sure someone would love to help you

Just checking out the lineup. I want to want a Wii-U because it's a new console and I always normally buy new consoles.

 

[web_slinger_62]

I think The Walking Dead comes out on 3/19/13 as I just got my shipping notice...
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...spx?path=ed209896f5b2781d7c01061b8eeb87f9en02

 

[hongcha]

As somebody who's a Nintendo + PC first, everything else gravy type of guy I can tell you that I view people who skip Nintendo entirely with damn near the same level of incredulity. A video game industry without Nintendo is roughly equivalent to a movie industry without Disney and Dreamworks in it.

Man, if I limited myself to movies from Disney and Dreamworks, I'd miss out on so many great movies.

 

[zroid]

I got a Wii in december the year it launched, got 360 in summer 07(I'am a very competitive madden player so I would be a fool to get it on Wii). I had become a full blown 360 gamer then. I played all the gears,Lost planets,RE5,FFXIII, all the halos, all the cods, experienced online multiplayer like never before and then some xbla. I find myself mid-late 2011 growing very bored and dull of these franchise and playstyles it became ridiculous. It was almost like every game offering the same experience shoot this and this, not only limited to shooters but also gta iv, and assassincreed series which I put the games down sooner than my money was worth it. I thought I was seriously growing out of games. I went back to ps2 played the KH series and that sort of renewed my gaming desired. Played Wii titles I skipped over SMGs, play DKCR, bought xenoblade, and just recently beat Skyward sword. I felt real dumb to myself skipping these games for no real reason I managed to jump start my interest in gaming again and having fun again. Now Im not saying thise multiplats and 360/ps3 titles are bad but they are kind of less gamey feeling to me. I mean I still enjoy them but no they did not matched the experiences I had with the games on the Wii at all. It was like night and day. I only managed to feel that way on only a few games on 360 and they were, respectfully dark souls and Bayonetta. Currently playing through xenoblade and having a great time.

You sound a lot like me. Launch day Wii, and got a PS3 in mid-2008. I can't say I ever fell away from Nintendo games, but there was definitely a stretch of 2-3 years at least where I was far more heavily invested in the PS3's library than the Wii's. On the Wii, I focused mostly on the big first party IPs, passing on a lot of the quirky third party and Nintendo gems. On the PS3, I was buying tons of games of all kinds.

It was definitely around late 2010 or maybe mid-2011 where I just started to feel like I couldn't take this AAA shit anymore. Everything was blending together and I didn't want to play any of it. The only Western AAA series I was still into were Uncharted and Mass Effect, at that point (well, and Portal, if that counts as AAA). And I liked Uncharted 3 well enough, but Mass Effect 3 really soured me there. :'/

I'm so burned out on Western AAA right now. Can't even get excited for Bioshock Infinite. I'll probably buy it, but after some price droppage, I think. I'm still playing PS3 games, but mostly just Japanese and PSN stuff.

 

[campfireweekend]

Just checking out the lineup. I want to want a Wii-U because it's a new console and I always normally buy new consoles.

You should wait until fall, or when 3 exclusive games that you want are available for the platform. That's what I always do and that hasn't steered me wrong

 

[dzelly]

Nice work OP, super clean, and making me want a Wii U.

 

[Christberg]

I'd say that calling game that aren't on Nintendo platforms 'boring' was totally ignorant too.



I agree, which is why I own all platforms (except the Wii-U, which is why I was looking in here). Your last sentence seems like a pointlessly snide dig though. Again, you don't seem to realise what the PS3 / 360 library actually offers. I guess that's my issue with single-console peeps in a nutshell.

Sorry, it WAS a snide dig, but not necessarily directed at you per se. It was probably a little excessive admittedly but you clearly got the gist of what I was getting at.

And I have a PS3. It has an excellent library with all manner of titles on it. But let's not kid ourselves- when you want to watch Toy Story you watch Toy Story and no amount of Monster House will replace it. Same thing with Mario. People have preferences and a time/money budget. If their time/money budget doesn't allow for more than one console they'll go with whichever one best caters to their preferences. And Nintendo is every bit as valid a choice as any other console and nobody should ever be disparaged for that. Period.

Ending my part of the discussion here. Back to the topic at hand.

...so yeah, Lego City Stories. Who's got the cheapest line on the Lego set that has the activation codes? So far for me it's Target at $30.

 

[Effect]

I have had to answer this same question a lot around here since November.

Your question may sound reasonable but who said I would have enjoyed a PS3 experience for my money?

I think people assume Nintendo fans are fools for not having the same tastes as them or assume a one console owner is not a gamer. They have not earned that status.

Still why would anyone come in a Nintendo thread and tell me I made a poor choice though? Like I said I have seen the question before so it is not for you alone I am making this statement.

But I ask WTF do they know about my life and how I live? I don't enjoy peer pressure to make choices for me even for a hobby. What I enjoy may not be for you. :/

I am on GAF because I love Gaming and Nintendo has been a major part of that experience for me.

I wish I had more choices for my hobby but in the end it comes down to money. I don't own a PS3 or 360 for the same reasons I don't own an iPhone. Can't afford the upkeep to feed the platforms be it monthly fees or software, it is that simple. Owning it all has less to do about choices or even the purpose of my hobby.

I would waste money on something that has more to do with status in this community, to give me the image of a core gamer in the eyes of my peers. But that purchase would have nothing to do with the bliss you are talking about, that bliss for me has always been a really good Nintendo IP that gave me some escape from my daily life. That is meaning of a hobby. I am a fan because I am here for the love of the hobby, not the status of what I own. I can't afford it.


Right now I'm going to cut down on my gaming purchase habits to save for my next macbook pro

You could post the same fanboy question and ask why not a PC? The answer would be the same I prefer the Apple OS experience as I do love my Nintendo IP habits.

In the end I have already spent enough on Wii U software that would have gotten me both a PS3 and 360. The result is I have a nice backlog here that I am enjoying and that Nintendo IP is yet to come.

Not saying I could not have found bliss on PS3 just saying my money is Very Limit so I spent it on what will deliver that experience.

I was going to get a PS4 but I really need this new mac so by this time in October I will be ready after my new laptop purchase to jump in Next Gen. I hope, but after saving and spending for that Mac I could very easily end up Wii U only next year, again wish I had the Money for more choices.

I never had the money it takes to support a multiplatform hobby so I made ONE choice each generation and focus on that, I do miss out but it is not like I had the money for every hyped game. So if I ever PORT BEG it would be to save money not because I am a fan of one Company.

We should not expect everyone to spend money for the sake of what we think is hot and cool some people are poor and food is more important than the status among our peers. I spend on what I know will make me happy, I had a blast with my Wii U so far and it has been a very expensive party. I made the right choice for me

My choices has less to do with Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, it is about me, my life my money.

Your hobby should be about you.

I own a Wii U I am in this thread to find out what is coming that I may want to put some funds aside for. /END

Excellent. Well said!!

 

[Meelow]

Interesting, Tyrone Rodriguez from Nicalis said this (AAA wise).

https://twitter.com/tyronerodriguez/status/312801502081208320

@Emi1yRogers I actually much prefer what Nintendo is doing for developers behind the scenes--most of which, I can't discuss. #NDA

I wonder what he knows.

 

[EDarkness]

I have had to answer this same question a lot around here since November.

Your question may sound reasonable but who said I would have enjoyed a PS3 experience for my money?

I think people assume Nintendo fans are fools for not having the same tastes as them or assume a one console owner is not a gamer. They have not earned that status.

Still why would anyone come in a Nintendo thread and tell me I made a poor choice though? Like I said I have seen the question before so it is not for you alone I am making this statement.

But I ask WTF do they know about my life and how I live? I don't enjoy peer pressure to make choices for me even for a hobby. What I enjoy may not be for you. :/

I am on GAF because I love Gaming and Nintendo has been a major part of that experience for me.

I wish I had more choices for my hobby but in the end it comes down to money. I don't own a PS3 or 360 for the same reasons I don't own an iPhone. Can't afford the upkeep to feed the platforms be it monthly fees or software, it is that simple. Owning it all has less to do about choices or even the purpose of my hobby.

I would waste money on something that has more to do with status in this community, to give me the image of a core gamer in the eyes of my peers. But that purchase would have nothing to do with the bliss you are talking about, that bliss for me has always been a really good Nintendo IP that gave me some escape from my daily life. That is meaning of a hobby. I am a fan because I am here for the love of the hobby, not the status of what I own. I can't afford it.


Right now I'm going to cut down on my gaming purchase habits to save for my next macbook pro

You could post the same fanboy question and ask why not a PC? The answer would be the same I prefer the Apple OS experience as I do love my Nintendo IP habits.

In the end I have already spent enough on Wii U software that would have gotten me both a PS3 and 360. The result is I have a nice backlog here that I am enjoying and that Nintendo IP is yet to come.

Not saying I could not have found bliss on PS3 just saying my money is Very Limit so I spent it on what will deliver that experience.

I was going to get a PS4 but I really need this new mac so by this time in October I will be ready after my new laptop purchase to jump in Next Gen. I hope, but after saving and spending for that Mac I could very easily end up Wii U only next year, again wish I had the Money for more choices.

I never had the money it takes to support a multiplatform hobby so I made ONE choice each generation and focus on that, I do miss out but it is not like I had the money for every hyped game. So if I ever PORT BEG it would be to save money not because I am a fan of one Company.

We should not expect everyone to spend money for the sake of what we think is hot and cool some people are poor and food is more important than the status among our peers. I spend on what I know will make me happy, I had a blast with my Wii U so far and it has been a very expensive party. I made the right choice for me

My choices has less to do with Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, it is about me, my life my money.

Your hobby should be about you.

I own a Wii U I am in this thread to find out what is coming that I may want to put some funds aside for. /END

Damn, that's an awesome post S&C. Damn. Well said.

I'll admit that I play everything on any system out there, I totally understand that different people game for different reasons. As gamers we should accept that. There are simply too many reasons and too many opinions out there for there to be any ONE way to do things. Gamers should game on whatever system they want for whatever reason they want. As long as we're having fun that's all that matters.

 

[axisofweevils]

But why have 3 games come out in one week?
cmon Nintendo, get your release dates right, even if they are 3rd party



i am buying all three next week- lego, monster, need from target for $120+ tax

im gonna be busy lol

Yep... I do find the scheduling odd (especially when you consider Luigi's Mansion 2's out on 3DS at the same time.) Couldn't they have released one of the games at the start of March? I want all 4 games, but there's no way I can afford them all or have the spare time to play them.

 

[Yagharek]

Just checking out the lineup. I want to want a Wii-U because it's a new console and I always normally buy new consoles.

Some serious advice for you: don't just listen to people, play one if you can at a mate's house instead. There was/is a lot of misinformation going around (moreso at launch) in particular regarding load times, firmware details and similar.

There are real issues (surround sound only via linear PCM), and battery life in the gamepad (about 4-5 hours) but those are objective facts. Other issues may bother you more or not at all.

Personally, I sat on the fence because of anti-hype (I was going to buy at launch, then there were threads about lots of problems) but having bought one a month ago the only problem that I have with it is the gamepad battery life.

Whether you end up liking it or not is neither here nor there, but my advice is to make up your own mind based on hands on time. It's hard to get a clear picture otherwise as to whether or not its going to be something you will enjoy based on second hand info.

 

[Ken]

Hope this isn't too off-topic, but I'm trying to decide between the deluxe or starter box and was wondering about Nintendoland. How much playtime can you get out of it? All I know about it is that it's a bunch of mini-games and good for parties. Not really sure if it's worth the extra for the Deluxe (same with the 32 GB HD since I don't see myself buying many digital titles).

 

[DrWong]

Nintendo Land is a very, very reach game, with depth and variety: lot of playtime, really.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Hope this isn't too off-topic, but I'm trying to decide between the deluxe or starter box and was wondering about Nintendoland. How much playtime can you get out of it? All I know about it is that it's a bunch of mini-games and good for parties. Not really sure if it's worth the extra for the Deluxe (same with the 32 GB HD since I don't see myself buying many digital titles).

Deluxe is worth it just for the charging stand.

 

[wsippel]

Interesting, Tyrone Rodriguez from Nicalis said this (AAA wise).

https://twitter.com/tyronerodriguez/status/312801502081208320

I wonder what he knows.

Whatever it is, he seems to hint at an announcement during GDC.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I want to see the List of Games in the OP grow I hope by PAX EAST Wii U gets many 3rd Party Games announcements

PS4 is my plan for the Wii U problem I see in the industry the whole fanboy thing is getting old with the Gaming Wars season around here - My PS4 would be for racing games and RPGs I hope I'll be able to get one and not having to feel burnt by smug Wii U hating Publishers.

So the Underdog is BACK! I am fine with that it gives me more reason to love the Wii U

Part of the reason I ask is this is because I've seen you post pics of the Wii U games you bought off the eShop and a large majority of them are third-party games. You could have gotten all of those games for much cheaper prices at this point used on the PS3 as well as enjoy other gaming experiences that you've missed out on. And then later buy a Wii U once those Nintendo IPs come out (because clearly, looking at this list, that ain't happening anytime soon).

Personally, I think that only owning a Nintendo console (no matter how great those Nintendo IPs may be) leaves you missing out on a large part of the gaming generation. Until I got a gaming PC, I only owned a Wii and while games such as Super Mario Galaxy were great, I missed out on a ton of other games that were pivotal to gaming as a whole such as Mass Effect, Bioshock, Uncharted, Batman: Arkham Asylum. Nintendo consoles are great for Nintendo IPs and the rare third-party exclusive but I couldn't use it as a main console throughout a generation. In fact, I already own a Wii U but plan on getting a PS4 to function as my "third-party box".

Someone here once said, "ONE CONSOLE FUTURE!" and it stuck with me lol

I'll give you a little history about NEOGAF and console wars for me, early on this Forum guys like Drinky Crow made it hard for me to justify my transition from Nintendo only to purchasing the box they owned... The problem with me and spending money is I have to justify why I am buying something, the main reason for me to buy non-Nintendo was to join the other side so my brain rejected the idea. This may take a wall of text to explain but I have used this forum as a home for this hobby and everything else since IGN took over N64HQ and charged you to post on the forums.

Trolling Nintendo around here was epic back then even worst than things are now, It was a fun crazy time that made this forum what it is today, so I do still find it hard to join the cool kids because they make it so hard to join the party.

Being a Nintendo fan here for me was like being a Nerd versus the Jocks and Cheerleaders in High School but I am too old for that shit so I just chose the hobby instead of the popularity contest I saw on the forum. I chose a dog Avatar for the Underdog status around here with team Nintendo. Even rooted hard for Nintendogs around here because the name just clicked with how we felt around here on Gaming Age Forums. Everything here was a fanboy contest E3, and even NPD, would crash the forums because fans came to cheer their box.

Would you want to hangout with people who belittled you at every turn? Play games with them? That is what made console wars season on the forums really stupid at times and epic at others.

For me to enjoy PS1-PS2-PS3 I would have needed money and I'll need some friends I can relate to, if I suck at COD and can't relate to bare boobs in God of War then I just don't fit in. I'm a nerd a geek a "NINTHING" the fanboys crap around here made everyone choose a jacket but there has been great games on all sides I was never blind to the fact I missed out on many amazing things. (but who here can claim they played every classic game?) I just wished I had the money.

I had a homeless thread here on GAF while I was in Miami so that is how little money I had during some years because of health issues. So there are deep emotional attachments to this Forum and the Culture here for me good or bad. I love NEOGAF just as much as I do Nintendo and I love the experience SONY fans gave me, I miss DRINKY CROW and smile every time he posts.

You really don't know how much you love a thing until someone else hates it.

So there have been years I took a break from this hobby for one reason or other but I was always posting here or the OT side when I could not play games. Having lived through some of the things I did if I saw my living room full of consoles I would feel I learned nothing from those hard experiences I can't justify it in my mind to do it yet. So I buy what makes me happy but carefully choosing.

The main reason I purchased nearly every 3rd Party offering on the Wii U since November was because early in the year I downloaded my first GTA on my macbook from Steam. I fell in love with Vice City because I grew up with 80s music I remember that time fondly and have a deep love for Miami and South Beach. I missed out so here is the Wii U with thing I new had the chance to play during those really hard years that is the reason I had a blast this holiday. I hear a lot of complain around here about Wii U but for me this is the most fun I have had in this hobby since NES. You can't miss what you never had but it is good to have old thing that are new to you.

So finding that I liked GTA added to my taste so with the Wii U I wanted to try other games for the very first time.

I still have not gotten past the first world in New Super Mario Bros U
because I had been so taken in with the new experiences I never tried before not since the NES have I owned this many 3rd party games. So many of these Wii U ports are full of glitches and crap story yet I am smiling because I never had the luxury of a PS360 experience.

Who said a Nintendo home console cannot be a 3rd Party box as well and having limited funds for my hobby true as that is, you will not find me complaining about a full price port on the Wii U because that port saved me from the need to spend $300 on more hardware. I'll spend $60 every month IF I can find the distraction I seek in this hobby.

I am far from a cheap gamer I save for expensive things but one thing I will never do is buy things for the sake of changing my status with others. I buy because I want it no matter the cost but if I find a reason to avoid a thing or that thing is poisoned by the people around it I avoid spending money on it.

We should all love games beyond they companies who made them but as humans we become fans of what we love. The fanboy thing goes too far some times.

I would think most gamers (fans of this hobby) would have been happy for me that I am now playing Batman AC a game they loved a year ago instead they laugh and point and say the game is on sale at bargain bins while I pay full price. Instead of being happy for me that I tried a COD for the first time they laugh and make threads about how so few people are on the Wii U servers and how lame I am since I don't have Xbox LIVE... Not even going to say how disappointed I was when ME3 Trilogy got announced or Rayman Legends got delayed for PS360 ports. So the same people who laugh at my misfortune in our hobby want me to buy their preferred box and join them in games I have no experience with suck at and find no fun in playing? I can't force my taste to change so I have to discover new things little by little.

There is really no reason why the Wii U gets none of those games other than it being politics and behind closed door deals that keep Nintendo consoles in check somehow. I am have always cheered for underdogs so that is how I justify spending money I should not spend.

My Mass Effect 3 purchase was boned by EA because they did not want do the decent thing by just giving the Trilogy to everyone. Do you think it is fair that the Wii U owners should be treated this way? I should just not own Nintendo products so Ubisoft or EA will not screw me over? Or whoever else wants to say "Not coming to Wii U" during the next big game announcement? These are the companies I want to reward with my money? So yeah I buy with those motivations flawed as they may be, because of them I never felt "BUYER'S REMORSE" lol

I want to reward developers, I'll pay full price for NFS: MWU because criterion did not come at the port as a cash in or wanting to screw Nintendo fans, they created something that the Wii U could do well while others just ignore the platform. But you will find others here who will not pay full price for this late port that is just not how I make my buying decisions. We are all different that is why the fanboy stuff will never end around here.

So my 3rd Party games on Wii U are for me to try new things for the first time and to support good games on Wii U. Wii U is not a first party only console, people want to pretent it is though I vote with my wallet. Wii U is the newest Underdog so I feel good about it

I said it before Wii U sold me on PS4 so I love my gaming future.

 

[Meelow]

Whatever it is, he seems to hint at an announcement during GDC.

Which post did he hint that?

Edit: Found it

https://twitter.com/tyronerodriguez/status/312813280454393856

GDC is sooner.

This guy kinda hyped me for GDC now...I have to calm my expectations.

 

[bequietdrive]

Which post did he hint that?

Edit: Found it

https://twitter.com/tyronerodriguez/status/312813280454393856



This guy kinda hyped me for GDC now...I have to calm my expectations.

I really wonder what is going on, could Nintendo be licensing out their IPs for eshop titles to indie devs? Or funding them to make Wii U exclusives? Or just making their platform really accessible to devs. Who knows, I am interested to find out though.

 

[Hiltz]

I really wonder what is going on, could Nintendo be licensing out their IPs for eshop titles to indie devs? Or funding them to make Wii U exclusives? Or just making their platform really accessible to devs. Who knows, I am interested to find out though.

Perhaps it is related to the second paragraph of the following statement from Satoru Iwata:

While Nintendo is not entirely opposed to exploring that option, I don’t think it would be an appropriate course of action for Nintendo to get into a battle with a company like Microsoft over the cost or the expense of trying to go head to head in a situation to try to obtain exclusive [publishing] rights.

If a third-party developer or publisher has come up with an idea of a potentially very unique use of the Wii U functionality with such a device, there is a high possibility that Nintendo will be a partner with that third party in an unprecedented manner (thereby reducing their development risk significantly). I do intend to work hard so that next year you will not criticize Nintendo’s use of its resources.

 

[bequietdrive]

Perhaps it is related to the second paragraph of the following statement from Satoru Iwata:

Very interesting quote, thanks. Where is that from?

 

[Hiltz]

Very interesting quote, thanks. Where is that from?

It's from a statement he made back in June 2012 during an analyst Q&A session.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/06/1...ecedented-third-party-partnerships-for-wii-u/

 

[Mileena]

For me to enjoy PS1-PS2-PS3 I would have needed money and I'll need some friends I can relate to, if I suck at COD and can't relate to bare boobs in God of War then I just don't fit in.

Look into stuff like Uncharted, Ratchet, Tokyo Jungle, Wipeout HD, Demon's Souls, Siren, Sly Cooper, Shadow of the Colossus, Infamous, etc. And since you were Nintendo only, non-Sony stuff like Dark Souls, Bayonetta, Red Dead Redemption, Vanquish, Metal Gear Solid (whole franchise), Resonance of Fate, 3D Dot Game Heroes, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dishonored, Ninja Gaiden, etc.

Just because you don't like GoW and CoD doesn't mean there's nothing for you. Saying or thinking PS360 is all dudebro shit isn't different to trolls saying Nintendo consoles are all kiddy shit. There's a ton of great stuff to be played.

 

[TheNatural]

There is really no reason why the Wii U gets none of those games other than it being politics and behind closed door deals that keep Nintendo consoles in check somehow. I am have always cheered for underdogs so that is how I justify spending money I should not spend.

Seriously?

The reason Wii U isn't getting games is because Nintendo has been in a hole for almost two decades without being the go to console for third party games. They've done nothing to even match the competitive advantages their console competitors have over them, much less offer an advantage of their own to draw in consumers who have long played on a Sony or Microsoft platform. It's even more difficult now, because XBox Live is a huge competitive advantage where no one is going to move to another platform because of all the friends and contacts they've built up on the service over the years.

Publicly traded companies care about one thing: money. Putting their games on Nintendo platforms doesn't make money. If it was profitable for them they would do it, but they don't, and it's completely logical why. You're very ignorant if you think it's some kind of voodoo magic that 'somehow' keeps Nintendo in check.

 

[MDX]

Publicly traded companies care about one thing: money. Putting their games on Nintendo platforms doesn't make money. If it was profitable for them they would do it, but they don't, and it's completely logical why. You're very ignorant if you think it's some kind of voodoo magic that 'somehow' keeps Nintendo in check.

Third parties made loads of money off Wii.

For many publishers, the intent with Wii was to relegate as a console for younger children and/or the "casual audience". That is not the intention Nintendo has with their consoles, as they sell their consoles for everyone, and therefore seek to open new markets. Did Sony and MS try to do that with their consoles initially? Not really. They were fighting for the same market.

Nintendo helped grow the game industry by looking for new markets. They now introduced a controller with a rich color screen & they have NFC is coming, to once again attempt to open new markets by giving developers the opportunity to find new ways to create games. For publishers and developers to bail out so early on the WiiU only means they are not interested in growing new markets because, like with the Wii, they dont understand them.

 

[Ken]

Deluxe is worth it just for the charging stand.

I would probably just charge using the cable.

 

[fernoca]

I love the charging cradle, but can't use it since I have the controller with a case. So, I just leave it conected to the cable all the time.


One thing I've noticed is the wave of indie games that are coming to Wii U, mostly thanks to their Kickstarter goals. Anyone has a list of them? Is like there are 2-3 games announced per week. Of course most won't come untill late this year or 2014, but at least is cool.

 

[DashReindeer]

Third parties made loads of money off Wii.

For many publishers, the intent with Wii was to relegate as a console for younger children and/or the "casual audience". That is not the intention Nintendo has with their consoles, as they sell their consoles for everyone, and therefore seek to open new markets. Did Sony and MS try to do that with their consoles initially? Not really. They were fighting for the same market.

Nintendo helped grow the game industry by looking for new markets. They now introduced a controller with a rich color screen & they have NFC is coming, to once again attempt to open new markets by giving developers the opportunity to find new ways to create games. For publishers and developers to bail out so early on the WiiU only means they are not interested in growing new markets because, like with the Wii, they dont understand them.

I guess the whole fear is that those markets might not exist any more.

I would counter that they do exist and that it's the archaic business model that's holding everyone back at this point. ($60 games). If Nintendo had at least attempted to innovate on the business side of things the way they have on the hardware and software side, I'm not sure money would be as big of an issue.

I guess I am saying this over and over these days, but Nintendo's franchises lend themselves beautifully to f2p. Do it, Nintendo. Do it, and do it well.