Wii U Pro Controller announced - X360pad design, no screen, "for multiplatform games"
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gamergirly
Member
I can definitely see a problem when playing FPS when your thumb and index are so close together. Fire trigger and look-around analog so close = accidental shots fired.
well if your hands are the size of a 9 year old, then u got more problems than the controller LOL....
Lol, and the alternative is what? That those studios port the games, and then put in the effort to add intricately designed screen functions?
Right.... nah, they just wouldn't port the game at all. Like they did this gen, last gen, and the gen before that. If the studio wants to support the screen, they will.
EatinOlives
Member
Double standards much?
I'd prefer they spend the money on graphics than gimmicks.
grimshawish
Banned
It is 8-point, its just not got a giant stupid circle to tell you this.
Have you ever played with a D-pad, pretty sure angles are easy to manage.
I can definitely see a problem when playing FPS when your thumb and index are so close together. Fire trigger and look-around analog so close = accidental shots fired.
I can't stop laughing at this. LOL
radioheadrule83
Banned
He appears to have pincers instead of hands, one finger and one thumb.. I'm not sure I can trust his assuredly scientific assessment on this one!
Cpt Conifer
Member
Got a technical question here: When using this on a PC, we're going to be running it through a program like motioninjoy or xbox360ce, and we'll be able to define the face buttons easily through those programs, right?
The reason I ask is because the position of the face buttons do pose one serious issue. Here's a specific example: If you're playing a game that's designed with the 360 pad in mind, like Lost Planet on PC, it's going to be a serious problem if you have to reach all the way down to B in order to jump, when you'll probably want to assign X to that task instead. This will be easily rectified since we'll likely be using third party software to play games with this new Nintendo pad anyways, right?
Basically, for virtually every Xinput game, we're probably going to want to be vertically]/i] reversing the roles of the buttons, if that makes sense, since the face buttons are now below the stick instead of above it. Y and A probably won't be much of an issue, though.
The reason I ask is because the position of the face buttons do pose one serious issue. Here's a specific example: If you're playing a game that's designed with the 360 pad in mind, like Lost Planet on PC, it's going to be a serious problem if you have to reach all the way down to B in order to jump, when you'll probably want to assign X to that task instead. This will be easily rectified since we'll likely be using third party software to play games with this new Nintendo pad anyways, right?
Basically, for virtually every Xinput game, we're probably going to want to be vertically]/i] reversing the roles of the buttons, if that makes sense, since the face buttons are now below the stick instead of above it. Y and A probably won't be much of an issue, though.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
There doesn't seem to be much play in those triggers. Not sure I like that.
radioheadrule83
Banned
The thought of not having directional sword swipes in the next Zelda is absolutely appalling to me. Ideally, I'd just have the tablet controller on a nearby table as an inventory thing or some shit...
the Wii-U pad would be great for a top-down zelda or new game riffing off the old ones though... but I gotta say, I want some of what Skyward Sword introduced to stay!
I hate not being able to hit up, down, left, and right precisely. The + pad makes slight diagonals less sensitive. Think of a game like the NES Contra where you want to hit down to duck. A lot of pads will easily register down and slightly right/left which will cause you to walk and aim & therefore die. Most old school or reflex games are hard to play with the typical 8 way pads.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Exactly what I said last page..
Huge flaw if it's how it seems to be.
Hell the 360 triggers barely cut it, there's a fine line to walk with that shit.
RumblingRosco
Member
Nintendo: Look at these awesome motion controls!
Hardcore: Get that waggle shit outta here! I want something with 2 analog sticks!
Third-parties: Motion controls are hard! I want something with lots of buttons!
Nintendo: Look at our Wii U Pad! It does everything: dual analog, touch screens, buttons, you name it!
Hardcore: It looks too big!
Third-parties: Touch screens are hard! Can't you make it simpler?
Nintendo: Fine. What the fuck do you want from us?
Third-parties, Hardcore:
Nintendo: Done.
Hardcore: Shameless!
A+ post. Needs to be read many, many times.
Yeah, my one issue is that they havent updated the Wiimote. They could've allowed using the GamePad as the actual sensor bar, and use the Camera to track the Controller so it's always Calibrated right. Combine a bit of Move tech with the Wiimotion plus.
How do you know it's a better Dpad?
Gamepad itself looks fine.
I know it's unavoidable but you basically need to buy another tablet gamepad to get the true two player experience for Nintendo games (that will make full use of the tablet) and then buy 2 of these to properly play third party multiplat games
: (
AdmiralSnackbar
Member
Doesn't the WiiU tablet have motion control built into it , and will this thing have some sort of sixaxis style motion control to keep it on parity with that ?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Its a fairly safe assumption considering the quality of the 360 D-Pad and the usual quality of Nintendo's D-Pads
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
It's patented bro.
Show me a Nintendo controller with a bad d-pad.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
The dudebros wouldnt be able to run in their FPSs if they kept that.
You know gamecube's D-pad was just janky as all hell.
I honestly think the classic controller is the worst controller nintendo has ever made. You can tell it's something they threw together last minute. It's too small and awkward.
That being said, I am kind of surprised to see Nintendo actually copying the competition. It is smart of them though. I wonder what lazy developer excuses will be now?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Well, the 3DS d-pad is pretty shitty but that might just be a blip. Too early to say.
Gamecube controller... but I know what you mean.
toastyToast
Member
I really like the form factor of the CC Pro, just needed some adjusting to the shoulder buttons and some better sticks.
Not a big fan of having to grip my controller like a sandwich
Not a big fan of having to grip my controller like a sandwich
Beelzeboss
Member
I foresee a lot of mix ups in the future for me with the buttons and right control stick switched.
also it's gonna be weird with the y and b place buttons being farther away from the control stick.
I dig the way it looks though.
also it's gonna be weird with the y and b place buttons being farther away from the control stick.
I dig the way it looks though.
Nintendo: Look at these awesome motion controls!
Hardcore: Get that waggle shit outta here! I want something with 2 analog sticks!
Third-parties: Motion controls are hard! I want something with lots of buttons!
Nintendo: Look at our Wii U Pad! It does everything: dual analog, touch screens, buttons, you name it!
Hardcore: It looks too big!
Third-parties: Touch screens are hard! Can't you make it simpler?
Nintendo: Fine. What the fuck do you want from us?
Third-parties, Hardcore:
Nintendo: Done.
Hardcore: Shameless!
This is perfect.
I can definitely see a problem when playing FPS when your thumb and index are so close together. Fire trigger and look-around analog so close = accidental shots fired.
btw, everyone keeps saying this but how do we know devs aren't forced to use the tablet? Did Iwata say so during the stream? I must have missed that.
edit: maybe i should read the thread title...
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
LOL
And much of that has to do with placement. If it weren't for that the D-Pad would be fine.
Team Filler
Member
Man, Nintendo just cannot win. Ever.
Unless we include profits.
Unless we include profits.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
mugurumakensei
Member
It was said by Katsuya Eguichi that he believes third parties should not use the wii-u's functionality if it's unnecessary.
Brilliant.
Uno Venova
Banned
Actual tears.
LOL XD
Guilty Bystander
Banned
I play retro games on the original consoles. I don't re-buy them on each new generation. The 4-point D-pad is terrible for fighting games like Street Fighter. Why is it so hard for them to use a good D-pad like the one of the Japanese Saturn or the PS Vita. I'm sure you'll won't dispute the fact the Saturn had the best 2D pad ever?
Have you tried the 3DS??? That must be the worst D-pad in history.
maquiladora
Member
Make this a gif with the Wii U curtains revealing the Pro Orgy.
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
I was waiting for this. Bless you SalsaShark.
Honestly if you use it enough it's something you get used to really fast. As someone who owns all the current consoles (and have a classic controller) I have pretty much no problem switching between controllers, your brain just teaches yourself to not even think about it. Heck, even remembering that A/B on Nintendo platforms is reversed compared to 360/PS3 is something that I just do without thinking about, it really isn't that bad.