GameplayWhore
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If the Wii U is using a DSP for audio, then optimization of the audio pipeline should mean that it's using the DSP heavily, which'd mean that this news doesn't say much at all about the performance of the cpu.
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If the Wii U is using a DSP for audio, then optimization of the audio pipeline should mean that it's using the DSP heavily, which'd mean that this news doesn't say much at all about the performance of the cpu.
NinjaTehFish
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WE HAVE SAUCE'S TO PROTECT
lordfroakie
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I like where this thread is going today! Enough is enough! Anyone who has details spill 'em and let's see where we stand. Nintendo's secrecy has tortured us for far too long already, and with E3 drawing ever near, some bona fide news is bound to hit. Then, once the dust settles I can go back to playing Xenoblade with peace of mind.
You really want people to be that dumb and break a nda? Which will risk their job?
DragonSworne
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It means WiiU gets the sound performance of 360 without taking the hit to the CPU.
Which is huge news.
GameplayWhore
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I cannot easily contest that allegation.
DaSorcerer7
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we have to be very careful when handling source-age ...
bgassassin
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Disorientator
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Wait. Did I miss something?
Is the X360 doing anything special (performance-wise at least) with the sound that any console released after that wouldn't be able to do?
NinjaTehFish
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My inbox is ready!
Serious, If someone wants me to anonymously post some info on their behalf PM me. I'll copy paste to a reply in this thread then delete the message.
*crosses fingers, toes and balls*
It's specifically talking about the software pipeline. The hardware pipeline would be faster, but not as multiplatform friendly.
But even for UDK, you can login to the website for let's say, a project using the free Unreal Engine, and you won't see anything in regard to Wii U.
But someone shown me the UDK website, while logged with an account licensed for Wii U development, and then you have a dedicated page appearing. It's beautiful.
Fourth Storm
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No, nothing like that. I wouldn't ask actual devs to risk their jobs. I'm talking secondhand sources and the like, where devs have already broken the NDA and remain anonymous, or instances like wsippel's, where the info is publicly available with the proper sleuthing.
DragonSworne
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What's with the WarioWorld reference though?
How could developers see WarioWorld for an example? Is Nintendo using WarioWorld for example of new features and capabilities in the SDK?
How could developers see WarioWorld for an example? Is Nintendo using WarioWorld for example of new features and capabilities in the SDK?
I think folks are finally cracking around here.
Either that, or they can smell the news nearby. We're gonna have NameChangeFest tonight! Yee-haw!
bgassassin
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360's sound uses the CPU so with Wii U its CPU is freer to be used for other necessary things.
http://www.warioworld.com/
Disorientator
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Nintendo Software Development Support Group
bgassassin said:
That's clear but he was talking about sound performance.
Fourth Storm
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DragonSworne
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Oh cool, I had no clue there developer website was called WarioWorld.
I already made that offer a while back, swearing on my dog's honor that I would not divulge info until E3. It was meant to be a safe means of sources verifying themselves through a trustworthy person.
Thus far, I have a few takers, and I'm sitting on the info until E3.
TheCongressman1
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WE HAVE SAUCE'S TO PROTECT
Fixed.
Nothing groundbreaking, but here's how it's working:
You're a Nintendo licensed Wii U developer:
You log to warioworld.com, the official website for developers working on Nintendo systems.
And then, amongst other things, you're able to keep track of all the recent changes on Wii U dev kits & SDK. It's a consolidated & up-to-date way for developers all other the world to see what's new about the system. And it's just one of the function of this website.
Fourth Storm
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I already made that offer a while back, swearing on my dog's honor that I would not divulge info until E3. It was meant to be a safe means of sources verifying themselves through a trustworthy person.
Thus far, I have a few takers, and I'm sitting on the info until E3.
You truly are a wolf in sheep's clothing! And here's me thinking you were one of us paupers!
The thing is, I have vowed not to open the email until E3, so I'm as clueless as everyone here.
Hero of Legend
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Microsoft owns Direct X right? So no one else can use it right? Then again, Sony Pictures has no issue with their movies turning into games for all platforms.
frankie_baby
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Used to be loads of interestingly juicy bits of info many years ago on there, seems rather more locked down these days
There's also a Japanese developer support site: https://ntsc.nintendo.co.jp/
Fourth Storm
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Where did you learn such discipline?
Agent Unknown
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Who sent it to you? IdeaMan or someone else?
DragonSworne
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I get it. It's pretty standard across different industries for development. I'm a BPM developer and I need a company email that has a developer license with companies to access their developer portals for support documents and news.
TheCongressman1
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I think that defeats the point a bit.
Also, I have no idea what to do for a StarTropics cover right now. Any other case suggestions in the meantime?
frankie_baby
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There's no real point in anyone else using directx, they can just use open gl instead
IceDoesntHelp
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HylianTom is currently under NDA and can't say anymore.
Its nothing to do with WiiU's CPU, the sound code is running on a dedicated sound chip in WiiU. On 360 it'll be running on one of its CPU cores.
EDIT: Or perhaps I'm wrong in the case mentioned in that document. I certainly hope they have a hardware pipeline in that engine, otherwise its a pretty poor "optimisation" for WiiU.
DragonSworne
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One thing I don't understand though is the lack of leaks. It really is amazing.
As we move forward, development is starting to be off shored more to places like India where you have development teams in the 100s.
You'd think one of these developers would leak, someone like a fresher straight out of college...
As we move forward, development is starting to be off shored more to places like India where you have development teams in the 100s.
You'd think one of these developers would leak, someone like a fresher straight out of college...
I can't divulge.
And the funny thing is, I'm not the least bit tempted to peek. An oath to Jake is a serious matter.
IceDoesntHelp
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The economy is a lot different then it was 6 years ago. People do NOT want to lose their jobs, so they keep their mouths shut.
Agent Unknown
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Duh, sorry.
Fourth Storm
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Btw Ideaman, I know I've been skeptical of your info, but that last tidbit about the DRC/TV displays dynamically adjusting detail using the camera to detect the player's point of focus was highly intriguing.
GameplayWhore
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I hope you realize that you've opened yourself to DefensiveReject-level breaking news.
*restricts urge to come up with new shocking Wii U name*
You have very flexible genitalia or a terrible, terrible medical condition.
No worries! Here's a link detailing my original offer..
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36395255&postcount=10452
At the very least, it may result in entertainment.
DragonSworne
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Yikes, I was reading the requirements to gain access to Nintendo's SDK and I can see why indie gaming is almost non existent.
You need to have prior game experience and have a secured office location that is not residential.
No garage programming for me on eShop
You need to have prior game experience and have a secured office location that is not residential.
No garage programming for me on eShop
Why wouldn't they make us of a dedicated sound chip when optimising there engine?
GameplayWhore
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And I'm going to reiterate yet again that while it's incredibly clever, it may give devs even more reason to eschew local multiplayer in their games. Also, I question the camera's ability to reliably do this (even though I suggested a similar camera trick involving survival horror games at some point in this thread, too!).
If Nintendo's console jumps out of the local multiplayer arena, then I am not quite done with gaming, but my purchase frequency will certainly shrivel a great deal.
Fourth Storm
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Time/effort/money I would assume. If they want to enable effortless porting across the 3 systems, utilizing the DSP could be problematic since the other 2 systems lack one.
IceDoesntHelp
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No worries! Here's a link detailing my original offer..
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36395255&postcount=10452
At the very least, it may result in entertainment.
I could never do that.
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If I saw that my OCD would kick in, and I would have to open it. I can't have it saying Unread 1 the whole time. It would annoy me to no end.
GameplayWhore
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No worries! Here's a link detailing my original offer..
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36395255&postcount=10452
At the very least, it may result in entertainment.
Oh, crunk, I forgot that you swore on Jake there. That's more binding than event a NinteNDA. :O
NinjaTehFish
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Didnt you know we figured he's a Retro employee trolling us instead of crunching code
HA! I remeber that now. Awesome that you got some takers. wonder if they are legit....maybe you should check *troll face*
Thought the the timing of the peak unique visitors was interesting.
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