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[StreetsAhead]

Youve [sic] probably been the biggest troll on here. Basically when someone has a valid point you come up with some absurd asserttion [sic] that has not been said and spin the OPs post, or you just say it is unreadable gibberish.

Let me clarify. You want Nintendo to go third party because you don't like their hardware decisions. This restructure would result in the redundancy of hundreds of people. I find it offensive that you think your personal preferences supersede those of the employees. I know that is not what you said, but you obviously hadn't thought about what that restructure would do, or you simply think you're gaming habits so important that those people don't matter.

And yes, when something requires two or three rereads before I can begin to make sense of it because it is poorly structured, I will call it gibberish.

Im [sic] sorry that I dont [sic] like the hardware choices a company makes and whish [sic] I had the option to use their software on something else with other options. I guess that means I want a bunch of people to lose their jobs, not a better control scheme, system specs and online system. Its actually all about the people I want fired, yes. Thats it. Exactly.

See above. Note that you haven't used this control scheme yet, so you can't say it's better or worse, for sure. Arguments from ignorance do not count. Further, the system's spec and online system haven't been detailed yet so I'm not sure where you're pulling those from either, unless you're talking about the Wii. If you were, I feel like you weren't being very clear because you spoke about a better control scheme in the same sentence, after talking about how innovative/elegant the Wiimote was.

 

[BuggyDClown]

You want Nintendo to go third party?
...
Yeah...

Never really wanted that previously, but as far as consoles are concerned I dont trust their hardware direction or online systems anymore. I still love the 3DS but if I could play Nintendo games in HD and online with a great commnity stable system and awesome controller I dont care who makes the system. Nintendo sells and makes some of the BEST games. The console doesnt interest me much.

If they went third party it doesnt mean they would stop making great games. If anything they would be even better, as they wouldnt have to try and shoe horn in their consoles "unique" features amd would focus on making their games better. When I think of my most nostalgic gaming moments and old consoles its the games I played that I care about, not the console which made it so special.

I also think with the way hardware is accelerating I imagine a future where the landscape is drastically differnt, and I wouldnt be surprised if being a software company wasnt an inevitability.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

I can definitely say the WiiU controller unveiling was very very disappointing to me personally.

It just sounded so... blah in the rumors. To appear very blah at it's official unveiling.

It opens a few possibilities, and will make ports between systems easier, but yikes it does not inspire the same level of confidence in me that the Wiimote did. I'd definitely not be as extreme as Mr. Henry. But I definitely don't see anything as special as the Wiimote in the Upad.

Interesting at most. Can't say anymore until I see something made for it exclusively.

 

[Dr.Palutena]

Haven't nintendo said if they were ever in a situation in which they couldn't be a first party company anymore, it'd be finito?

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Haven't nintendo said if they were ever in a situation in which they couldn't be a first party company anymore, it'd be finito?

Yeah, that part of what he's saying is insane.

But he had a few legit grievances earlier.

He should just stick to them.

 

[Fantastical]

Haven't nintendo said if they were ever in a situation in which they couldn't be a first party company anymore, it'd be finito?

Is that seriously what would happen though?

 

[snesfreak]

You cannot justify wanting Nintendo to go third party.
That is ridiculous.
You know who wants Nintendo to go third party?
Sony and Microsoft fan boys who stupidly think Nintendo is "ruining" gaming.
They are not going third party, ever.

 

[TheExplodingHead]

Haven't nintendo said if they were ever in a situation in which they couldn't be a first party company anymore, it'd be finito?

That's what they've said, but in reality if the shit hit the fan in the real world Mario/Zelda/Pokemon are still profitable and Nintendo still has great teams and they would go third-party. Regardless of what they've said.

Having said that, the day Mario is on a Sony platform is the day gaming dies.

 

[Dr.Palutena]

Yeah, that part of what he's saying is insane.

But he had a few legit grievances earlier.

He should just stick to them.

Yea I'll admit too i'm not to intrigued with the U pad either and the unveiling was less than stellar, it really felt like nintendo didn't know what they were actually going for info wise at E3. But I liked the few tech demos they did show and think there is interesting stuff to be done with it.

 

[snesfreak]

Having said that, the day Mario is on a Sony platform is the day gaming dies.

This.
I'll quit gaming if that ever happens.

 

[LCGeek]

That is almost incomprehensible gibberish. It would be an insult to many non-native speakers to assume you were one too.

Way to troll me instead of understand a point I made that another user clearly did. Not only that you didn't even bother to ask for me to correct any points I made and instead attacked me.

But seriously, how have you been 'ignored' or 'mistreated'? Give me a break. Consoles are a luxury item, not a right. Just because they haven't catered to every whim and request of a few people who feel entitled because they've had a hobby longer than others doesn't give you any rights or say in how the company is run, either.

To suggest nintendo consumers especially when it comes to their games since snes especially n64 and gcn aren't being ignored is laughable considering this forum or the gaming media in general. There is reason why Wiiu zelda is still highly desired vs the windwaker look. How about how core nintendo gamers fearing nintendo going mostly casual or social games despite the fact they really haven't. How about nintendo ignoring industry standards when it comes to hardware especially when it comes to Wii in both the cpu and gpu or in the case of outputs lacking things cheap dvd players have.

There you have your reasons. Console sare luxury items that can benchmarked by other similar items like them. If nintendo chooses to make dumb design decision which iwata has acknowledge I reserve to voice my own thoughts as to why I agree with statement or in cases highlight it years before they do.

 

[snesfreak]

'WiiU Zelda" is a freakin' tech demo made to show off how the controller works.
Nothing else.

 

[LCGeek]

'WiiU Zelda" is a freakin' tech demo made to show off how the controller works.
Nothing else.

To suggest that another tech demo of zelda won't be turned in to a bigger game is about the most false idea one can propose. Each of them since N64 has become a game.

 

[Dreamwriter]

If they went third party it doesnt mean they would stop making great games. If anything they would be even better, as they wouldnt have to try and shoe horn in their consoles "unique" features amd would focus on making their games better. When I think of my most nostalgic gaming moments and old consoles its the games I played that I care about, not the console which made it so special.

So, you didn't think games like F-Zero, PilotWings, Mario Kart, Super Mario World, or ActRaiser were special? Those games all required a special feature on the console ("Mode 7") that wasn't available on the competition. How about the use of two analogue sticks in games, that was a special console-specific feature on the PS1 and PS2. What about network multiplayer gaming, have you found any of those games special? There was a time when that was a console-specific special feature too.

Every feature that makes up game consoles today, at one point were special features unique to one console or another. And yes, many times those features had to be shoehorned into games until the features really took off. And what about the PS4 or XBox Next? Do you honestly think those systems won't have any new features?

 

[Instro]

To suggest that another tech demo of zelda won't be turned in to a bigger game is about the most false idea one can propose. Each of them since N64 has become a game.

The GC demo certainly didnt.

 

[LCGeek]

The GC demo certainly didnt.

GC demo was based off the n64 engine which made it's way both in WW and Windwaker. Way to be clueless.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

GC demo was based off the n64 engine which made it's way both in WW and Windwaker. Way to be clueless.

It's always shocked me how much underlying tech has been used and reused in this industry.

Makes sense though.

 

[Door2Dawn]

My butt itches from reading this thread.

Why can't Nintendo tease us a little bit? I don't want to wait until next year.

 

[LCGeek]

It's always shocked me how much underlying tech has been used and reused in this industry.

Makes sense though.

Developers have shown this and last generation especially with 3d tech it's best way to keep products rolling out. Really good engines take time if you keep upgrading to best tech out there. Easier just to take what works, optimize and fit it in to a higher architecture while scaling.

 

[Instro]

GC demo was based off the n64 engine which made it's way both in WW and Windwaker. Way to be clueless.

All Nintendo engines are based on older engines you mook. Your post suggested that what was present in the demo would be present in an actual game. There's no way of knowing what the game will actually look like.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

The idea that, if Nintendo goes third party, you would be seeing Nintendo games as you know them on other platforms with full online and HD graphics, is pretty crazy. Nintendo licenses on other platforms, sure. That would go with going third party.

But it stands to reason that, if they really desperately wanted to make XBox Live-style online, they...would, right? I mean, what would be stopping them? And if they don't want to make those games, then why would you want games they don't want to make?

 

[Dreamwriter]

That's what they've said, but in reality if the shit hit the fan in the real world Mario/Zelda/Pokemon are still profitable and Nintendo still has great teams and they would go third-party. Regardless of what they've said.

I disagree. Nintendo is a toy and game console manufacturer, not just a game developer. They make and sell physical objects, it's their business. Heck, back in the early days they didn't even want to let any other game developer make games for their console, because it really was Nintendo's console - they designed it for their own games, which is what they do every generation. And Nintendo has just as many great hardware teams as software teams, if not more.

Of course, all of this talk is pointless anyways, as Nintendo has NEVER been in financial trouble in the slightest since they got into the video game industry. Their worst point was way back in the early days when NOA brought a ton of arcade machines to the US, of a game that flopped in the US (Radarscope). They had to emergency hack those games into something that would make money, and thus Donkey Kong was born, and no longer did Nintendo have any financial difficulties (and the NES was designed specifically to be able to play Donkey Kong). Of course that was only NOA that was having financial hardships at the time.

They've only once in their entire history sold hardware at a loss, and that's the 3DS since the price drop; for everything else, they've sold the hardware at a profit, and then of course got the profit from their games on top of that, and the licensing and royalty fees from third-party developers on top of that. So Nintendo doesn't really have a chance of losing lots of money from poor sales, unless the sales of a system are so poor as to not be able to pay for its development (say hello, Virtual Boy!) Because of this, Nintendo has a war-chest of billions in the bank.

 

[LCGeek]

All Nintendo engines are based on older engines you mook. Your post suggested that what was present in the demo would be present in an actual game. There's no way of knowing what the game will actually look like.

No I just made a generic comment where you reached for that. My basic point still stands and considering how heavily the the is from n64 era influences the gc/wii era you still lose out. Don't believe me go look up twilight princess interviews where they directly touch on this subject. All you did was reinforce my point not disprove it, if that's your intention come up with something better mook.

 

[cartman414]

Never really wanted that previously, but as far as consoles are concerned I dont trust their hardware direction or online systems anymore. I still love the 3DS but if I could play Nintendo games in HD and online with a great commnity stable system and awesome controller I dont care who makes the system. Nintendo sells and makes some of the BEST games. The console doesnt interest me much.

You're throwing mixed messages here. First it was Nintendo not being innovative like they were with the Wii especially when it comes to their new controller, and now it's about HD and online, neither of which the Wii was known for.

If they went third party it doesnt mean they would stop making great games. If anything they would be even better, as they wouldnt have to try and shoe horn in their consoles "unique" features amd would focus on making their games better. When I think of my most nostalgic gaming moments and old consoles its the games I played that I care about, not the console which made it so special.

I also think with the way hardware is accelerating I imagine a future where the landscape is drastically differnt, and I wouldnt be surprised if being a software company wasnt an inevitability.

Yeah. Worked out really well for Sega, didn't it?

If Nintendo went 3rd party, that would mean multiplatform development politics, not to mention saying sayonara to all those royalties in addition to taking a cut on their OWN software.

 

[snesfreak]

Alright, if this is going to turn ugly I can’t be here, I’m a 2-striker.

Spoiler

Wonder how many of you will get that reference.

 

[LCGeek]

Yeah. Worked out really well for Sega, didn't it?

Could've had sega had not been as bad third party developer with management as they were a first party. Never get why people liken nintendo and sega on certain levels despite plenty of knowledge showing the companies don't operate that often in a similar fashion where it matters most.

 

[StreetsAhead]

Way to troll me instead of understand a point I made that another user clearly did. Not only that you didn't even bother to ask for me to correct any points I made and instead attacked me.

I had legitimate trouble understanding your points through the lack of cohesive structure in your prose. I was harsh, I'll admit, but it should be a wake up call, if you intend to be taken seriously. I did in fact ask you to clarify your points - otherwise you would not have had an excuse to post any of the below:

To suggest nintendo [sic] consumers especially when it comes to their games since snes [sic] especially n64 [sic] and gcn [sic] aren't being ignored is laughable considering this forum or the gaming media in general.

Why is it laughable? In what ways are they ignoring their consumers? GAF is a relatively small community of a particular type of gamer. Everyone who posts here could stop buying Nintendo consoles and games today and Nintendo would barely notice.

There is reason [sic] why Wiiu [sic] zelda [sic] is still highly desired vs the windwaker [sic] look.

Is it? What statistics do you have to demonstrate that? They've stated that the tech demo won't necessarily reflect how the actual game will look like.

How about how core nintendo [sic] gamers fearing nintendo [sic] going mostly casual or social games despite the fact they really haven't.

Irrational fears that never materialized into anything more than internet whining. You admit it never happened yourself and at e3 Nintendo said they were intending to focus on the 'core' players more.

How about nintendo [sic] ignoring industry standards when it comes to hardware especially when it comes to Wii in both the cpu [sic] and gpu [sic] or in the case of outputs lacking things cheap dvd [sic] players have.

There are no set industry standards and from a business and sales point of view, Nintendo made the right choice with the Wii because it didn't lose the company billions of dollars. 'Ignoring' those standards was just about the smartest thing Nintendo could have done.

As for the DVD players, I could guess what you refer to, but I chose not to. Please clarify.

There you have your reasons. Console sare [sic] luxury items that can benchmarked [sic] by other similar items like them. If nintendo [sic] chooses to make dumb design decision [sic] which iwata [sic] has acknowledge I reserve to voice my own thoughts as to why I agree with statement [sic] or in cases highlight it years before they do.

Ah, the old, 'It's my opinion, therefore I'm entitled to it,' argument. Sure you are. Explain to me then, what part of my responses to you are not my opinion and should be respected any less?
Also, when did Iwata call any of the design decisions dumb?

 

[Instro]

No I just made a generic comment where you reached for that. My basic point still stands and considering how heavily the the is from n64 era influences the gc/wii era you still lose out. Don't believe me go look up twilight princess interviews where they directly touch on this subject. All you did was reinforce my point not disprove it, if that's your intention come up with something better mook.

Clearly there's some miscommunication going on here. I wasn't involved in the earlier discussion and am not trying to prove any point regarding your previous posts. My post was simply directed at your one post about how the tech demo would be turned into an actual game, which is clearly not the case outside of some shared tech. What I'm referring to is WW and TP looking nothing like what the GC demo presented, whereas OoT is vaguely similar to the n64 demo. I'm not talking about technical aspects of the engine at all, just the overall look. So ignore my post as part of any other discussion is going on, since that seems to what happened here.

 

[hellclerk]

I can definitely say the WiiU controller unveiling was very very disappointing to me personally.

It just sounded so... blah in the rumors. To appear very blah at it's official unveiling.

It opens a few possibilities, and will make ports between systems easier, but yikes it does not inspire the same level of confidence in me that the Wiimote did. I'd definitely not be as extreme as Mr. Henry. But I definitely don't see anything as special as the Wiimote in the Upad.

Interesting at most. Can't say anymore until I see something made for it exclusively.

Thunder Monkey probably has the most reasonable post on this page. WHY DOES THUNDER MONKEY HAVE THE MOST REASONABLE POST ON THIS PAGE?! D:

HenryGale: It is in your best interest to vacate the thread until there's actually some more details to discuss as you are currently using wild conjecture and speculation to make your claims. One particular comment, concerning that Nintendo isn't a "games first" company anymore, is particularly troubling, aside from baseless.

LCGeek: For the love of English, learn to use commas. Your lack of them makes your post impossible to read.

 

[Sempuukyaku]

Jesus Christ can we get back to discussing the potential capabilities of the WiiU, please? Too many fucking whiny babies up in here. Take your sad "Nintendo has wronged me!!" crap to the IGN boards, please.

 

[LCGeek]

I had legitimate trouble understanding your points through the lack of cohesive structure in your prose. I was harsh, I'll admit, but it should be a wake up call, if you intend to be taken seriously. I did in fact ask you to clarify your points - otherwise you would not have had an excuse to post any of the below:

Not in the first response nor how. That post is much different than the one you refer to.

Why is it laughable? In what ways are they ignoring their consumers? GAF is a relatively small community of a particular type of gamer. Everyone who posts here could stop buying Nintendo consoles and games today and Nintendo would barely notice.

I listed how they ignored consumers from game design to the hardware itself. Gaf is not small. Gaf is not why sega kept up with in the snes. Gaf is not resposnible for psx consumers and why they lept in gaming vs nintendo during the various eras. Gaf is not the xbox crowed whose main genres were things that nintendo once did wellsomehow since n64 especially seeing goldeneye's performance can no long do themselves. Again the points are there don't like the examples that's fine to say it's not there is willful ignorance.

Is it? What statistics do you have to demonstrate that? They've stated that the tech demo won't necessarily reflect how the actual game will look like.

In general anedotal response both based on people I know in various groups, sales of the titles have ww look vs those that don't and in general most of the gaming media attitude on the title look. You arguing like it's somehow sharing equal parity with more classical designed zelda 2d or 3d makes you post even more of a joke than my gibberish.

Irrational fears that never materialized into anything more than internet whining. You admit it never happened yourself and at e3 Nintendo said they were intending to focus on the 'core' players more.

They aren't irrational. While nintendo has never abandoned the core which is pure hyperbole the focus and how the focus comes about is there. I can easily point to smash brother design as going far more casual now with nintendo rather than the old design traits which was accessbile but deep.

There are no set industry standards and from a business and sales point of view, Nintendo made the right choice with the Wii because it didn't lose the company billions of dollars. 'Ignoring' those standards was just about the smartest thing Nintendo could have done.

As for the DVD players, I could guess what you refer to, but I chose not to. Please clarify.

Both sound and av inputs have been gutted or not offered to nintendo consumers despite the ability to do so all for profit not for consumers. I'm not talking about power I'm talking about something as simple as allowing for component or higher grade standards of viewing media or hearing it.


I had legitimate trouble understanding your points through the lack of cohesive structure in your prose. I was harsh, I'll admit, but it should be a wake up call, if you intend to be taken seriously. I did in fact ask you to clarify your points - otherwise you would not have had an excuse to post any of the below:[/QUOTE]

Ah, the old, 'It's my opinion, therefore I'm entitled to it,' argument. Sure you are. Explain to me then, what part of my responses to you are not my opinion and should be respected any less?
Also, when did Iwata call any of the design decisions dumb?

Dumb may not be right word but on the subject of HD Iwata has clearly said nintendo not doing this not only hurt them in general but specifically on Wii. Ignoring this just shows me you don't want to be taken seriously yourself. I never said your opinion shouldn't be respected please point when have I ever said that once in my topics. I made point as simple as it can be companies like this can't go around with bullshit reasons to their actions and not expect people to call them or supporters on it.

 

[hellclerk]

ASDFASDFASDF

COMMAS, CAN YOU USE THEM MUTHA'FUKKA?

 

[LCGeek]

COMMAS, CAN YOU USE THEM MUTHA'FUKKA?

Nope I like walls of text that make strangers rage at me. Quite the rush and it never disappoints me as your post demonstrates.

 

[guek]

what the fuck happened to this thread.

It's always funny when people think their lack of writing skills makes others "rage." The whole situation just makes them come off as moronic. It's hard to take someone seriously if they can't even properly structure a sentence.

 

[hellclerk]

Nope I like walls of text that make strangers rage at me. Quite the rush and it never disappoints me as your post demonstrates.

Your loss then. All it ends up doing is making you seem uneducated and rambling. People don't tend to respect opinions that they have to read multiple times to gather the syntax and pacing of it. Rather, people just end up not reading it at all, and your actual contribution to the thread is made moot. I don't really mind; I'd just rather give you the benefit of the doubt that you can properly format a sentence.

 

[LCGeek]

what the fuck happened to this thread.

It's always funny when people think their lack of writing skills makes others "rage." The whole situation just makes them come off as moronic. It's hard to take someone seriously if they can't even properly structure a sentence.

No I'm just writing across like 6 different forums in the span of a few hours. If grammar police and whores can't piece part of the puzzle for themselves get uppity then tell me to make a better post don't expect me to be civil.

More humorous when people assume other situations and then act self righteous. Me being light hearted is somehow how worse than those who choose rather to make a situation rage or get hostile. Not only that don't talk to me about structure when you use it to start a sentence assuming everyone knows what the it is refering too.

Your loss then. All it ends up doing is making you seem uneducated and rambling. People don't tend to respect opinions that they have to read multiple times to gather the syntax and pacing of it. Rather, people just end up not reading it at all, and your actual contribution to the thread is made moot. I don't really mind; I'd just rather give you the benefit of the doubt that you can properly format a sentence.

I'm quite aware of what it does. Not my loss you assume I value what is said here as if it makes that big of a difference in my life or yours. Didn't ask for respect, that's something you earn not demand or expect. Your contribution to the thread is less than mine considering it speaks nothing of the Wii or nintendo and is post you could've pmed me about.

 

[sfried]

Why can't Nintendo tease us a little bit? I don't want to wait until next year.

They wouldn't be Nintendo otherwise. Even giving away the 3DS early on via investor press was very un-Nintendo of them.

Can we go back to Wii U specs and speculation?

 

[hellclerk]

No, I'm just writing across like 6 different forums in the span of a few hours. If grammar police and whores can't piece part of the puzzle for themselves who get uppity, then tell me to make a better post don't expect me to be civil.

It is More humorous when people assume other situations and then act self righteous. Me being light hearted is somehow now worse than those who choose, rather, to make a situation rage or get hostile. Not only that, don't talk to me about structure. When you use it to start a sentence assuming everyone knows what the it is refering too.

I'm quite aware of what it does. It is Not my loss you assume I value what is said here as if it makes that big of a difference in my life or yours. I Didn't ask for respect, that's something you earn, not demand or expect. Your contribution to the thread is less than mine considering it speaks nothing of the Wii or nintendo and is a post you could've pmed me about.

FTFY. There were plenty more awkward wordings that were technically grammatically correct. It was like slogging through a swamp.

Anyway, has there been any hard speculation yet on how the system lines up the controller screen to the big screen? I mean specifically in that arrow challenge. Is it a Wiimote sensor on the thing, is it all gyros, or is the system basing position on latency between the controller and the console?

 

[LCGeek]

FTFY. It was like slogging through a swamp...

Anyway, has there been any hard speculation yet on how the system lines up the controller screen to the big screen? I mean specifically in that arrow challenge. Is it a Wiimote sensor on the thing, is it all gyros, or is the system basing position on latency between the controller and the console?

I'm not the one crying about grammar big difference. Just pointed if you gonna be on that side might want to clear up any issues I can attack you with that are in your own posts. Sfried I'm not the one dredging the issue at this point. I said my piece and kept my posts which were relevant to the topic at that level. Wanna gripe about my point yell at doomed butting in something that me and the original poster on that subject have already cleared up,

 

[guek]

No I'm just writing across like 6 different forums in the span of a few hours. If grammar police and whores can't piece part of the puzzle for themselves get uppity then tell me to make a better post don't expect me to be civil.

More humorous when people assume other situations and then act self righteous. Me being light hearted is somehow how worse than those who choose rather to make a situation rage or get hostile. Not only that don't talk to me about structure when you use it to start a sentence assuming everyone knows what the it is refering too.



I'm quite aware of what it does. Not my loss you assume I value what is said here as if it makes that big of a difference in my life or yours. Didn't ask for respect, that's something you earn not demand or expect. Your contribution to the thread is less than mine considering it speaks nothing of the Wii or nintendo and is post you could've pmed me about.

lol

You're a dumbass. I'm pretty sure we've gone past the point of anyone taking you seriously. You really think you're contributing to this thread right now? You've completely derailed us with your asshatery. In case your English is limited, that's the act of being an ass hat, or a hat made of asses.

ignore button -> click!

 

[sfried]

I'm not the one crying about grammar big difference. Just pointed if you gonna be on that side might want to clear up any issues I can attack you with that are in your own posts. Sfried I'm not the one dredging the issue at this point. I said my piece and kept my posts which were relevant to the topic at that level. Wanna gripe about my point yell at doomed butting in something that me and the original poster on that subject have already cleared up,

I say that intention all the time though it's for companies that over the past decade alone have demonstrated they shouldn't be at the top of the industry or how it's run. It's an entertainment industry and nintendo to a lot of people here even to me have done things to deserve such an opinion. If people don't want to lose their jobs they should be more sensible with how they treat loyal long time customers instead of ignoring them.

Oh wow, so you're holding all Nintendo employees accountable? What utter bullshit.

I'm sorry, but I read some of your pieces and saw it as nothing more than trolling fodder. Just how is this "speculating" on what Wii U will have?

Keep the doom talk out of this. If fact, any talk of "Nintendo", "doomed", and "become 3rd party" in the same sentence should be a bannable offense.

Well, I can see the IR Pointer (or something that looks hell of a lot like one)

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

 

[Sempuukyaku]

Don't know about you guys, but I'm hoping that Nintendo goes the Sony route and has an open Bluetooth profile, so that we can sync any headset to the console wirelessly. Be nice to have more games utilize voice chat.

 

[LCGeek]

Oh wow, so you're holding all Nintendo employees accountable? What utter bullshit.

I'm sorry, but I read some of your pieces and saw it as nothing more than trolling fodder. Just how is this "speculating" on what Wii U will have?

Keep the doom talk out of this. If fact, any talk of "Nintendo", "doomed", and "become 3rd party" in the same sentence should be a bannable offense.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

I hold nintendo management responsible and if there employees suffer that's on them not consumers. Nor was I saying they should go third party just that I understand the sentiment. Sucks that various people not involved with food chain would suffer with nintendo but why is one company getting the treatment tons of others who have failed haven't. I never speculated on Wii on those I only showed examples to show the idea of what another user said isn't so implausible except for a certain group of people.

way to backseat mod which is something you can be banned for.

 

[sfried]

Don't know about you guys, but I'm hoping that Nintendo goes the Sony route and has an open Bluetooth profile, so that we can sync any headset to the console wirelessly. Be nice to have more games utilize voice chat.

I thought they already utilized Bluetooth via Wii Remote? They even utilize Bluetooth with their Keyboard thinging in the Pokemon Typing game on DS.

Open Bluetooth should be easy provided there is an official/officially licensed Nintendo headset/keyboard/mouse/etc. profile that accessory developers can integrate with their devices. There just has to be the idea of Nintendo supporting these accessories first. So far, they've done USB keyboard with Wii. They just need to support mice next.

 

[Sempuukyaku]

Right, the Wii Remote uses Bluetooth but its a closed profile. So we can't sync any other device to it wirelessly on our own. I don't know if they themselves will come out with a headset but if they just provide the ability then companies like Mat Catz can make some badass licensed headsets for it.

 

[StreetsAhead]

What I would like, but am not sure how possible it is, is to have a wireless nunchuck. I guess the biggest factor is that there would need to be batteries, which would make it bigger and more expensive, right?

And some more PR speak from PM

You recently reassured the market that you are fully onboard the Wii U with your key franchises. What are your developers finding most exciting about the Wii U?

They're still working with the software development kits, Jason. And as always happens, Nintendo continues to deliver updates to the SDK, and we find cool and interesting things there. I think the broader element is the idea of a second screen, which is something that many of us do now. I don't know about you, but watching TV I find myself either sitting with my laptop doing emails or my iPad browsing the web while the TV is going on in front of me. I think I'm watching it, depending on what it is. Obviously if it's a sports event, then I'm giving it my full attention, but anything else and it's probably only getting 40 per cent of my attention and I'm pretending to my wife that I'm watching TV with her. But the second screen mentality, it's not only doing something different, but also every now and then you are watching TV and have a question and it's fascinating now to do enquiries and find out information about something that you are watching on the main screen using your second screen. I think the concept of a second screen that it being used in tandem and in parallel to what is going on the big screen is fascinating for us as gamers, we think that is a big deal. A lot of our games are built for calling plays or strategies that you can't see on the big screen.

Source: http://www.theage.com.au/digital-li...cited-about-new-platforms-20111018-1lym8.html

 

[AzaK]

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

That image is interesting in that's it has a few spots where the casing is etched but no componentry in it. And you can obviously see the words "AC Adapter", and next to it is something that looks like a switch. Guess it's not that interesting after all, but maybe it'll help get things back on track.

 

[mclem]

Surely all the talk of "Point the controller at the screen to see something extra" means that IR pointing is implicit? Unless it uses *AR* concepts instead, which I think is theoretically possible, and could be interesting.

 

[AzaK]

Surely all the talk of "Point the controller at the screen to see something extra" means that IR pointing is implicit? Unless it uses *AR* concepts instead, which I think is theoretically possible, and could be interesting.

Not necessarily. Once the u pad is calibrated then the gyros/magnetometers etc would enable it to be able to tell when you are holding the thing up to the tv and looking through it like a window. You dont need IR for that, although actual IR would probably be more accurate and impervious to drift. In this case though you'd need the IR camera on the bottom if you wanted that window functionality.

 

[blu]

what the fuck happened to this thread.

Delusional individuals with high-volume verbal output. Nothing to see here, people, move along.