Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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StreetsAhead
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bgassassin said:
For a game in pre-alpha that has probably only been worked on for Wii-U for a couple of months it looked very promising. I think has some great potential. And that quote has got me intrigued.
AceBandage said:
Something like this might actually work.
I can see Ice-Climbers coming back as a cooperative 2-player platformer with player two on the WM+.
Other than that I'd really like to see a new (good) Starfox game, 1080, Wave Race, a Yoshi platformer (from the Kirby's Epic Yarn team, or at least designed by them), F-Zero, Pokemon Snap (or at least a 3DS one). I expect an 'excite' game and at least one HD Remake/Upscale.
Also, given that Skyward Sword has been done for at least a few months and Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart would have largely been finished up recently, I think it's possible that by next e3 we could have, at the very least, a small teaser/3D render of the Wii U versions of those games, even if they're not coming until 2013.
NinjaTehFish
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Returning to game speculation, Nintendo should let Shin'en do a full blown console F-zero game.... F-ZERO UX?.......F.U.X??? Omg
Edit: It'd be great because on a 4Gb+ disc 200mb would be game code and the rest track information
Edit: It'd be great because on a 4Gb+ disc 200mb would be game code and the rest track information
BuggyDClown
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There is not even a single ounce of truth in that statement. If you recall my first post in this thread was how I am still not sold on it, and it will be my first Nintendo Console I wont be buying day 1.Plinko said:
If you ever have seen me post in Gaming it probably was in the Pokemon or DKCR thread. Fuckin love those games. Hell I even had a thread about howI have an amazing birthday for a Nintendo fan since consoles and huge games have always released within a day or so of my birthday. So you're talking nonsense.
The rest of you who are acting like I shot someone are over exaggerating anything I said.
Id love to see how you can show where I said single player isn't important. Its not to me no, butI was just arguing that saying most people play single player games is a bullshit answer to a problem with the idea behind the new controller. Games are massively social, and Nintendo built their last console around getting up and playing together, this new one doesn't seem to be an evolution of that idea. If anything the selling point of being able to play your games when others want to use the TV is completely antisocial and does not encourage the social behavior either.
Finally I am dead serious about how I feel about iOS and eventual androidification of our living rooms. We can now have screens that will be able to stream, share and browse ect way better than any console will. Why should Nintendo waste resources on what will be a half baked attempt at additional features. Why do I want to draw on a low res crappy resistive touchscreen when I can get a wacom tablet and real software for cheaper? When phones, PMPs tablets and the like can also do the same? The WiiU is launching against hardware that can display at 720p wirelessly in its current iteration or 1080p from a cable. I'm sure each subsequent generation will be more powerful as they have and evolve, unlike console tech which wont. So this was simply only a jab at those other lesser features, and the idea of a dual screen experience that I dont see as being revolutionary practical or fun in the least.
For those who dont like to read.
-love Nntendo, dont think this direction is going to encourage new or innovative ideas
-Single player may be important, but it has nothing to do with my argument. What about multiplayer games? You cant just say well Imostly playsingle player games, having one controlelr isnt an issue. Tons of people play multiplayer so its somewhat of a glaring omission.
-the extra experiances such as drawing browsing ect are half baked, not going to rival ones that tablets/phones can already do and only seem to become better each generation so they will surely best the wii in this market
-having a screen to play yourgame on shouldnt be much of a selling point. Whats the point pf big Hdgraphics and a second screen that is so ital to changing gameplay if you can turn both features off and be anti social on your own little low res screen.
-the fool who thinks the 4s sucks is a fandroid, jealous or an idiot. The porformance levels especially in gaming are significantly more powerful than the iPhone4 Is a much bigger leap than say the 3gs was to the 4. Though I wouldnt expect someone like him/her to understand that.
Shin Johnpv
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NinjaTehFish said:Returning to game speculation, Nintendo should let Shin'en do a full blown console F-zero game.... F-ZERO UX?.......F.U.X??? Omg
Edit: It'd be great because on a 4Gb+ disc 200mb would be game code and the rest track information
I disagree. I think they should find the exact people who worked on F-Zero GX, and get them to make the new one for Wii-U. Just bring them all back together. GX is still my favorite racing game ever.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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HenryGale said:
Every impression I saw said it was really comfortable to hold.
BuggyDClown
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Thats fine. I hope it is too. I know Im going to end up buying this system, and I fear I will partially hate myself for it. Snce i just dont see the appeal of it all. None, what so ever. I just want metroid prime in HD or a good online smash bros. thats all Ive ever wanted really.TheGreatMightyPoo said:
I just see Nintendo doing something here that goes against their gaming centric ways. A device that seems isolationist, and goes against getting people together and the stigma of games being complicated ect. I see a device catering to new tech like tablets, instead of focusing on improving a system they already have down so well. It just feels very UnNintendo to me. I wasnt worried when they launched the Wii, nor the DS. This, just feels like a complete gimmick.
StreetsAhead
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HenryGale said:
So you're complaining because you know you will regret buying a piece of unreleased and largely unknown consumer electronics that doesn't appeal to you even though you have no obligation to purchase it?
As opposed to a second touch screen or motion control?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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HenryGale said:
Nothing feels UnNintendo to me until I see what they can and are going to do with the controller.
I don't know how they can or if they will but if they still keep the Wii Remote and Nunchuk as other controllers along with the new one, I'd be much more at ease.
Kind of like the Remote, I was open minded about it but a lot happier with it when I saw the Nunchuk part.
I guess they could have kept the Wii Remote and Nunchuk as the main controller but that's not them and not "progress" for them.
Can they always turn water into wine with their ideas????
No, they're human but I'm sure they didn't come up with the controller first and then ideas for it, I'd like to think it was the other way around.
I get the beef about multiplayer offline suffering but I kind of stopped that even with the Wii as it was more cumbersome that way for multiple players in the same room.
Not sure about multiplayer games with the new system but I'd be shocked if they compromised singleplayer controls.
This could be the most important system even in their lifespan.
It's actually the most exciting for me because they have finally found a balance between horsepower and gimmick.
The company is over with if they don't release a big in-house game at launch though.
It won't be Zelda, possibly Mario.
As cool as Pikmin would be, that's not going to sell consoles.
StreetsAhead
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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
If you mean what I think you mean, then it has been confirmed since the system was first unveiled in June that WM+ and the nunchuck would remain, not only compatible, but an important control option for the Wii U.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3qaPg_keg
Mario is also impossible for launch as the team has, until recently, been working on Super Mario 3D Land.
The best we can hope for, at this point, in my opinion, is New Super Mario Bros. Mii and/or possibly a new IP from Retro or one of the EADs to be the system sellers.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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StreetsAhead said:
Yeah, I know all that, I just wonder how serious they are about it.
I mean, in the past, it was THE controller that the system was designed around that was the one that got all the love.
I guess with the Wii, they have the Classic Controller but that seems mostly for Virtual Console games and the odd game here and there.
Basically, I just want to play FPSs with the Wii Remote some more, ones that don't look like ass anymore.
I'm not sure how FPS makers will attack the system, they might want to try to get overly ambitious with the new controller/toy while obviously to me, the Remote would be the more tried, true and successful option.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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StreetsAhead said:
I expect Donkey Kong Country Returns 2 to be an early game for the system.
People seemed disappointed with that notion(I guess they want Retro to do something else).
I'd be thrilled with a sequel, in HD and with all that horseypower, Retro could do a Donkey Kong Country to Donkey Kong Country 2 in this scenario.
They don't have to do 5 games in the series but 1 is not nearly enough, the first game was my favorite game of the year it came out but it still left many untapped ideas.
I guess it sold well too.
I can't see it as a launch game though, hope I'm wrong(they better get it out soon before more jump ship!!!!)
StreetsAhead
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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
DKCR was released last November in the States. Assuming a Summer release next year, that's potentially about 18 months worth of work, which means they may be able to get it ready for launch, or at least close to.
Back in March the game had, according to Wikipedia, sold 4.96 copies world wide. That is selling well.
Plus, if my understanding is correct, Retro now supports two teams, but someone more knowledgeable will know that for sure.
BuggyDClown
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I dont see the appeal of the controller design which is what is central kto the system most. In fact I much prefer the Wiimote or GCN controller. I still see the draw to awesome games, just not the gimmicy input.StreetsAhead said:
I dont see how a second screen when you have a huge one in front of you makes much sense. I will also end up buying the system for the games, not for the controller. I LOVE nintendo games. I just havent been fond of their online attempts, and hardware decisions. I would prefer them to be a software company at this point, since its the only thing that will get me to purchase their system.
Thunder Monkey
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Nintendo as a company is very much that artistic kid that occasionally slams his head into the wall.
Some of the stuff they do makes little sense.
But every once in a while it pays off in a big way. A lot of the time it seems like the ramblings of a schizophrenic though.
Genius and madness you know. Hard to tell them apart. I generally agree that a controllerish controller seems like a step back after the elegant beauty of the Wiimote.
I mean I'm always willing to play in Nintendo's insanity pool. I just think sometimes you guys can be a little harsh is all.
I mean who among us can say they are always lucid?
That'll put marzipan in your pie-plate bingo.
Some of the stuff they do makes little sense.
But every once in a while it pays off in a big way. A lot of the time it seems like the ramblings of a schizophrenic though.
Genius and madness you know. Hard to tell them apart. I generally agree that a controllerish controller seems like a step back after the elegant beauty of the Wiimote.
I mean I'm always willing to play in Nintendo's insanity pool. I just think sometimes you guys can be a little harsh is all.
I mean who among us can say they are always lucid?
That'll put marzipan in your pie-plate bingo.
cartman414
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HenryGale said:
Get another TV or don't be so addicted?
Uh, geez. Well, here's a counterpoint: who needs a large TV? And what someone else wants to watch the TV (or heck, the player wants to while playing)?
Oh, that's right. It's only for antisocial people. Playing on the big screen is where it's at.
Evidently you've never heard of OPTIONS.
Hobbestetrician
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What isn't a gimmick? Oh yeah, everything can be considered a gimmick but you just wont call it that if you happen to like it.HenryGale said:
HenryGale said:
There are actually some really good points that have bothered me as well.
Though, the Wii U is not final. At this point we just don't know what it's gonna be like.
Edit: If one tries to read between the lines, there are some valid points.
The part with the single player was maybe refering to a) the overall trend to muliplayer expriences and b) especially - thats the important part - to the way Nintendo was successful with (local) multiplayer games on the Wii. Families are a target audience, so that worked very well and was a selling point.
I also agree that it's IMHO not important for a home console to mimic handheld experiences, at least not for me (maybe for children).
I think his conclusion is that while Nintendo sees apple as their main competitor in the market, the extra effort by banking on the new Wii U controller might be not worth it and even confusing to those who just wish the Wii U to be a Wii 2 (ps1 --> ps2 approach)
Dr.Palutena
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"gimmick", "waggle", "whatever other buzzword" I really don't even perceive these words as negative anymore. :/
Thunder Monkey
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Everything is a gimmick until it works.JimWood27 said:
Then it's an innovation.
HenryGale said:
You don't see the sense of a second screen if you already have another one? It introduces a new tough-based control method. That's sweet no matter how you slice it. Tough in general is the most intuitive control method, having it on a nice, big, high-resolution screen is awesome. There's not a genre in existence that won't benefit, no matter in how small a manner. I loved the Wii wand but the same cannot be said for it.
BuggyDClown
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Thank you for recognizing the points I was making. As well as sme of the other gaffers who can see through their blind love for companies in their replies. To the rest of you, calm the fuck down.Mlatador said:
Jaded Alyx
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HenryGale said:
Thunder Monkey
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Back off!HenryGale said:
I tell Nintendo fans to calm the fuck down around here!
It's my right because I buy their games I don't even really like!
Also... it's rude.
GameplayWhore
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Mlatador said:
It wasn't listed or even hinted at any point, and the pictures we've seen of it do not give any indication of having some sort of pointer capability.
Some sources have said that it can be used as a sensor bar, though.
edit: http://www.giantbomb.com/news/heres-everything-nintendo-would-tell-me-about-wii-u/3368/ ← regarding the sensor bar on the controller
EmCeeGramr
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lol i just remembered that arkham city was a game announced for wii u
60_gig_PS3
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definitely seems like a step backwards not having a pointer as the primary controller.
GameplayWhore
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Mlatador said:
If that's the case, I'm happy to be proven wrong with my knee-jerk response.
Yeah... I'm not buying it. Your posts are so chaotic and filled with confirmation bias that you're either a gullible, reactionist loon, or a troll. Either way, it's not worth you being in the thread anymore. You're just treading ground that was tread MONTHS ago. Please, do yourself a favor and stop thinking about the system until we have more information and a more complete product. That won't happen til next year. In the meantime, check out the many multiplayer-centric games coming out this winter. It'll be a good distraction until you have more to judge the WiiU off of.HenryGale said:
BlackNMild2k1
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Mlatador said:
cartman414
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doomed1 said:
Yeah, really. He's being a condescending git.
Thunder Monkey
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I can be condescending.cartman414 said:
I can try to be quiet, but that rarely works. Honestly though... the more we talk about the insolence on display, the less we talk about legitimate grievances he has. Though it'd be helpful if he'd articulate them better.
I'm all for an argument. As long as it makes sense. If it doesn't make sense I get confused and then say things that get me banned.
Don't make me say things. Please Henry, don't make me say things.
BuggyDClown
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Thunder Monkey said:
Well I apologize if Im not elaborating enough on what it is Im concerned about. I am just simply trying to get across certain points. Most of which deal with the fact that I don't buy into the controller, don't accept most people play single player as an answer to the one controller issue, and don't understand how all of a sudden simple additional features of the controller and system not gaming centric are such a buy in when these are things we have on many other devices, and are done far better.
Nintendo has always been a games first company. I feel they lost that somewhere after the DS and Wii. Both were awesome ideas that opened up new avenues to gameplay, nothing here seems revolutionary. I shouldn't have to be explained to why the controller is great. It should be obvious, I don't think telling me you can play your big screen games on a small low res screen is enough to get me excited either. The Wii was different it had Opened up more possibilities, and new ways to play games.
Im sorry that i confuse those when I say I love Nintendo games and will still end up buying this thing even though Im not that interested. I suppose you still cant see the how Nintendo as a software and hardware company differ. I don't like their hardware decisions in the current gen or this next one. I still love metroid, donkey kong and games like zelda and smash. So unfortunately I have to get the console to play those games. Personally nothing would make me happier than seeing them just go third party at this point. The games of Nintendo are what I want, not the hardware.
StreetsAhead
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HenryGale said:
So you want hundreds of people to lose their jobs because they aren't providing you with your arbitrary definitions of good hardware and controllers?
BuggyDClown
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Right. Thats exactly what I said.StreetsAhead said:
StreetsAhead said:
I say that intention all the time though it's for companies that over the past decade alone have demonstrated they shouldn't be at the top of the industry or how it's run. It's an entertainment industry and nintendo to a lot of people here even to me have done things to deserve such an opinion. If people don't want to lose their jobs they should be more sensible with how they treat loyal long time customers instead of ignoring them.
phosphor112
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Decided to poke my nose in to see some developments...
I'm sorry for you guys...
Hopefully Big N will throw you guys some scraps soon.
I'm sorry for you guys...
Hopefully Big N will throw you guys some scraps soon.
StreetsAhead
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HenryGale said:
It's the implication of what you said. If Nintendo goes third party everyone, or almost everyone, in those departments loses their jobs. It would also affect dozens of other companies involved in producing parts for the hardware as well. All because you, personally, don't see the advantages in some of their hardware decisions.
LCGeek said:
That is almost incomprehensible gibberish. It would be an insult to many non-native speakers to assume you were one too.
But seriously, how have you been 'ignored' or 'mistreated'? Give me a break. Consoles are a luxury item, not a right. Just because they haven't catered to every whim and request of a few people who feel entitled because they've had a hobby longer than others doesn't give you any rights or say in how the company is run, either.
BuggyDClown
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Youve probably been the biggest troll on here. Basically when someone has a valid point you come up with some absurd asserttion that has not been said and spin the OPs post, or you just say it is unreadable gibberish.StreetsAhead said:
Im sorry that I dont like the hardware choices a company makes and whish I had the option to use their software on something else with other options. I guess that means I want a bunch of people to lose their jobs, not a better control scheme, system specs and online system. Its actually all about the people I want fired, yes. Thats it. Exactly.
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