Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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LegendofJoe
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Shin Johnpv said:
Nintendo would have to be insane not to include a Wiimote and nunchuck with the system. I hope they're smarter than that.
walking fiend
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I really doubt them doing so, they'll probably bundle it with games to:LegendofJoe said:
1. reduce the barebone system cost
2. make profit on bundled games sold
3. not to force a lot of people with a lot of wiimote to buy yet another one
However, maybe they expect people to sell their Wiis and so they will need another Wiimote. Really hard to tell what they will do.
blu said:
Lets say WiiU sells for 299, and its pushing the tablet controller.
And MS launches again for about 399, and its pushing a new improved Kinect.
If MS is not planning to sell in the red, so they are making some small profit off their console. As we expect Nintendo to try and do, then how much more powerful can the Loop be, being priced a $100 more, than the U? Considering the cost of Kinect, the controllers, hard drive, internal memory, etc.
Im guessing that the WiiU tablet is cheaper than the new Kinect. And the Wiimote/nunchuck is cheaper than a new traditional Loop controller.
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Donnie said:There's been comments from devs, and it doesn't point to a small jump over current consoles. I think you should post the prediction you mentioned though, for the record
As stated. My prediction is that it's going to be a small spec bump from the current generation (Xbox360, PS3). No more then 1Gb of memory for the whole device (GPU + on board men).
If true, and from current rumours on the power of Xbox 720/PS4 which is supposed to be equivalent of a current high end gaming PC, well, they will blow the WiiU out of the water.
a 2'x4' piece of plywood has some tennis-raquet-like functions, but it's not a very good tool for tennis. the difference between a one-handed controller here and a two-handed one are massive. i hope nintendo is serious about proper support for motion+ remotes where it makes sense, and include one in the box with the system. i have little faith on this front, however.Shin Johnpv said:
this is certainly false. even if you don't like having camera controls in third-person 3d games.Shiggy said:
walking fiend
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Will it though? HD consoles blew Wii out of the water, because games were practically not portable to Wii.cyberheater said:
Is there any PC game that cannot be ported to current HD consoles? Obviously BF looks better on PC, but they look really good on HD consoles as well.
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cyberheater said:
There are no current rumors that say anything of the sort. In fact don't the solid rumors from AMD point to one of them going with a middle ranged APU?
walking fiend
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maybe he refers to BF3 looking on next gen consoles as good as it does on PC now. Not that the actual hardware being that powerful, but that since consoles are able to utilize the hardware much better for gaming due to OS and low level access, they can put graphics that match BF3 on current PCs. It is something totally possible without going crazy in a year or two.Shin Johnpv said:
yup. i do feel history repeating itself in that i'm intensely interested in this thing because of the potential of the controller, rather than because of any actual software we know of.walking fiend said:
...and i'm not unhappy with buying a wii, but to say it lived up to its potential is surely false, even given that the hardware itself wasn't capable of many things they initially implied it would be.
tragically, the most useful hardware innovation of wii (the pointer) is seemingly falling by the wayside for wiiu.
i'm quite excited by the ucontroller potential though... i really hope they can get lots of bright creators on-board making software.
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walking fiend said:
Weren't there talks of BF3 coming to the Wii-U and matching the PC version.
walking fiend said:
I think they will most definitely package a wii remote plus and nunchuck in the package - that is the only way they can continue to encourage third parties to support the flexibility of the system and support some of the best experiences the Wii U has to offer so far (Find Mii, Battle Mii, Wii U Sports golf, etc).
logically, i'm inclined to agree. one of the main remaining hardware advantages consoles have over more general-purpose appliances is good interface devices. supporting a broad range of included controllers is a good way of keeping this advantage. with cheap powerful cpus showing up in cereal boxes, interface differentiation is going to be critical.jacksrb said:
not including a remote in the box is a mistake i can see nintendo making, however.
cyberheater said:
A small bump could mean wildly different things to different people though, if you don't want to give a prediction on GPU/CPU ect then could you at least define what you mean by a small bump? Go with number of 360's taped together if you want
It just helps any kind of discussion if you can be more specific.Saint Gregory
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There were several rumors prior to the WiiU being revealed that suggested Nintendo improved the motion controls of the Wii remote for the U. Has anything been about that since or were those false rumblings?
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blu said:
I'm guessing the only one disappointed will be you. In fact, I'm certain of it.
they said it would support m+ remotes, so i don't expect any iteration on that in the first year or two of the system.Saint Gregory said:
the ucontroller might have better motion-detection though... i really don't want to play games where i have to swing that thing around...
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cyberheater said:
Wouldn't a current, high-end, gaming PC truly at the high end draw something like half a kilowatt?
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Is it just me or does the whole controller situation feel like a giant mess? How much will the Wiimote actually be used? Multiplayer seems like such an odd part of the Wii U.
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TunaLover said:
Not gonna happen. Anything Retro comes up with Nintendo is gonna turn into an existing franchise.
Thankyou for brightening up my day.birdchili said:
They've done similar with the 3DS by relegating the touch screen to the secondary screen of action albeit not quite as dramatic is removing control completely from their controller.birdchili said:
I think we'll get the best of both worlds and I imagine devs will allow you to chose what system you want, even if it means you just sit the pad on your lap. The problem with this though is that you might end up getting a 1/2 arsed tablet implementation just because they are making sure it can be used without being held. Time will tell.
LegendofJoe
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If no Wiimote is included in the box I don't see why the console should be named Wii at all. It would also lead to a decrease in how much developers support local multiplayer game play, which goes against everything Nintendo claims to adhere to.
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TunaLover said:
upad sounds like an adult diaper brand
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FF XIV 1.0, seems like.walking fiend said:
There's been a lot of speculation about BF3 on Wii U. Nothing's been confirmed. Here's a timeline of everything that's been said:Shin Johnpv said:
-Battlefield 3 shown in WiiU 3rd party sizzle reel at E3. Riccitiello used the series as an example during his segment of Nintendo's presentation.
-A few days later, EA Games president Frank Gibeau claims, "We've just had a little bit of time with it and we've uncovered new ways of playing Battlefield that I'm really excited about."
-In August, Peter Moore used Battlefield as an example of graphical diminishing returns in a pro-Wii U interview.
-In October, DICE's Patrick Liu states, ..."that's exactly the reason we're looking into it. But I'm a big fan of Nintendo myself, just looking at what they've done with the Wii and the Wii U but we have to come up with something that really uses their controls. And until we get that bright idea of what to do with the new controls I don't think there's any point in making another version that's just the same as everyone else...
...It probably wouldn't be Battlefield 3 anyway because the Wii U is so far out. It's not out yet."
No. He specifically said that they do have dev kits, but that no games are planned.
My opinion is that BF3 is coming, but the port will not be done by DICE. Liu's statements appear to directly conflict with Gibeau's statements. They wouldn't conflict if someone else was porting the game.
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Nope, sounds like a menstrual padcomedy bomb said:
JJConrad said:
Do we know if EA is going the CoD route and releasing a new game every year? If so, maybe we'll see BF 4 on Wii U, but 3 will be forgotten. That said, if it's an easier port and no other high end shooter comes out around Wii U launch, then a late port at a good price might work.
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Battlefield is essentially a yearly franchise, anyway.AzaK said:
We'll probably get trade-betweens like a Bad Company game next year or something spin-offy like that.
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Probably another F2P. Not even kidding.ShockingAlberto said:
GameplayWhore said:
More, if you're talking "high end" - high-end GPUs can draw 350w just on their own. Crossfire/SLI and you're past half-a-killowatt.
And in order to play BF3 on Ultra right now, you absolutely need a Crossfire/SLI setup. Take that as you will.
Tell us more. What kind of hardware is going into the next systems, and will it be based on nano-bot technology?
This is Nintendo. There won't be a Wiimote, let alone nunchuck... relegating the pointer to practical death. And no, the gyroscopic pointer (a la WSR/Sony Move) that some of you suggest is nowhere near as good as IR. Try the alien/duck hunt shooting game on the original Wii Play. Then try the upgraded version of that game on Wii Play Motion, which uses M+ (nearly the same setup as Sony Move) to approximate the IR. Nowhere near as smooth/accurate. If it's not in the box, it's a sad day for first/third person fans on consoles, because dual-analog is shit and should be retired at this point.
I bought Kirby at $40. It's not exactly a looker, but it's a fun platformer. Explain why I would buy Kirby if I was constantly bombared with Battlefield 3 ads?
The "main series" isn't yearly, but its kinda hard to define. The series has had several spin offs and expansions. If the series goes yearly from here on out, the next game is most likely Bad Company 3, with Battlefield 4 not coming until 2013. The distinction is different from COD's set-up, which is why I think, given a mid-year launch, a late port of BF3 would be more beneficial to EA than a late port of MW3 would be to Activision.AzaK said:
IceDoesntHelp
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We've already had this discussion! d:Kazerei said:Kotex did it first, Nintendo is copying their idea.
Anyways...can we not call it a U-pad anymore? Why not like...the U-Tab(let).
You know, I originally thought they would put one in but I think I'm beginning to agree with you. Who really wants a pointer to control their console? Gamers who have already experienced the joy of pointer FPS controls. We are the sort of consumers who either have 78 Wiimotes already or will go out and buy one if we want one. The traditional audience already is used to dual analogs, and the new/casual audience is probably happy with touch and motion on the pad.StevieP said:
JJConrad said:
Cool, thanks for the info.
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Kazerei said:Kotex did it first, Nintendo is copying their idea.
36 Pads to a box!!?
Nintendo doesn't need that many. Anywhere from 2-4 will do fine.
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I meant me and you have already had this discussion on a different thread d:Kazerei said:
bgassassin
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I like Upad. 
I wouldn't call it negative. I think nudging is more accurate. In fact Crytek has done this also. They come off as having an idea of what the specs and it comes off to me like they are trying to set absurdly high targets (e.g. CliffB wanting Avatar-like graphics, Crytek 8GB of memory and 4 590s) for what the next gen should be that it makes the specs they know look silly and in essence "embarrasses" the console makers to do more.
Now you have Capps saying that they started doing that about a year ago and the he can't talk about whether or not they were successful doing it. Then follows it up by saying they believe they showed Samaritan could be done in an affordable manner and that gamers should be demanding it. That doesn't sound like mission accomplished if you're needing the gamers to help push for it.
That came from the person I mentioned.
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I wouldn't call it negative. I think nudging is more accurate. In fact Crytek has done this also. They come off as having an idea of what the specs and it comes off to me like they are trying to set absurdly high targets (e.g. CliffB wanting Avatar-like graphics, Crytek 8GB of memory and 4 590s) for what the next gen should be that it makes the specs they know look silly and in essence "embarrasses" the console makers to do more.
Now you have Capps saying that they started doing that about a year ago and the he can't talk about whether or not they were successful doing it. Then follows it up by saying they believe they showed Samaritan could be done in an affordable manner and that gamers should be demanding it. That doesn't sound like mission accomplished if you're needing the gamers to help push for it.
Shin Johnpv said:
That came from the person I mentioned.
Lately I've been realizing the potential of the wii u more and more in terms of tapping into this "new" simultaneous multi-screen viewing behavior. There have been a lot of studies on this phenomenon lately about how consumers often watch the tv while browsing on a netbook or laptop or smartphone or use a latop/desk computer and a smartphone at the same time etc.
I've found myself doing the same thing with my laptop and 3ds at the same time. I have my 3ds with Layton on or just browsing the eshop while also surfing the web on my laptop. If Nintendo can tap into this with games streaming to the upad and other features I could see the wii u getting a lot of use.
I've found myself doing the same thing with my laptop and 3ds at the same time. I have my 3ds with Layton on or just browsing the eshop while also surfing the web on my laptop. If Nintendo can tap into this with games streaming to the upad and other features I could see the wii u getting a lot of use.
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bgassassin said:
Ahhhh got you. I'm a bit fried from work (animating at break neck speeds right now), so my memory on some shit is just not there.
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Kazerei said:Kotex did it first, Nintendo is copying their idea.
what a sexy box that is... so dark
I would have no trouble picking this up for the girlfriend
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