Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012

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I've been wondering something about how the Wii U itself functions. once I heard about the possibility of playing games only on the controller, I immediately thought of how this would make it easy to take the Wii U itself places as some sort of quasi portable system.

The question I have is, will the system boot-up detecting a Wii U controller and allow games to be launched from its screen? Because if that's true, the only thing one needs to pack is the Console, the controller, and a power cable and one would be able to play the system and whatever games can be totally put on the controller. And that's pretty cool, IMO.
 
lherre said:
And if it is "only" 3 gb (for ps4-xbox next) nintendo will be far away this amount.

I originally predicted 768 MB for Wii U (btw, I expect my original months ago Wii U specs prediction to be shockingly accurate, no offense but I'm just that good).

In recent times I had upped that to 1Gb or even 1.5 GB, based on the latest talk (which was only ever talk of "more RAM than ps360", no numbers)

Anyways this new comment makes me tend back towards as little as 768MB again. Possibly 1GB.

My basic working theory is that it MUST have more RAM than PS360 simply in order to drive now up to two tablet framebuffers as well. But those wont necessarily translate into better looking games unless devs choose to ignore the tablet screens (which imo is exactly what they probably will do before long).

The basic point is in order for Wii U to match PS360's 512MB of ram, it will need 512MB+some amount for tablet framebuffers. An equal or lesser amount of RAM than PS360 is therefore off the table.
 
specialguy said:
I originally predicted 768 MB for Wii U (btw, I expect my original months ago Wii U specs prediction to be shockingly accurate, no offense but I'm just that good).

In recent times I had upped that to 1Gb or even 1.5 GB, based on the latest talk (which was only ever talk of "more RAM than ps360", no numbers)

Anyways this new comment makes me tend back towards as little as 768MB again. Possibly 1GB.

My basic working theory is that it MUST have more RAM than PS360 simply in order to drive now up to two tablet framebuffers as well. But those wont necessarily translate into better looking games unless devs choose to ignore the tablet screens (which imo is exactly what they probably will do before long).

The basic point is in order for Wii U to match PS360's 512MB of ram, it will need 512MB+some amount for tablet framebuffers. An equal or lesser amount of RAM than PS360 is therefore off the table.

It seems like you're working towards the lowest common denominator, which is 360 level graphics, something devs have stated is not the case. Even the earliest comments talked about using higher res textures compared to PS3/360. That seems contradictory to the whole idea of 512 + only whatever is required for the tablet.
 
specialguy said:
My basic working theory is that it MUST have more RAM than PS360 simply in order to drive now up to two tablet framebuffers as well. But those wont necessarily translate into better looking games unless devs choose to ignore the tablet screens (which imo is exactly what they probably will do before long).

The basic point is in order for Wii U to match PS360's 512MB of ram, it will need 512MB+some amount for tablet framebuffers. An equal or lesser amount of RAM than PS360 is therefore off the table.
Your basic working theory makes no sense whatsoever. A 850x480x24bpp fb is worth 1.2MB. Factors like OS footprint will have way more impact on the amount of ram in the WiiU than those two tablet fb's.
 
lherre said:

I both cherish and loathe your appearances in this thread.

On one hand, I'm like "yay, someone that knows something."

On the other, I'm like "that bastard knows something."
 
guek said:
I both cherish and loathe your appearances in this thread.

On one hand, I'm like "yay, someone that knows something."

On the other, I'm like "that bastard knows something."

Hehe, I wish I could "paste" here the info I have about the system but ... it is more fun to try to guess and speculate about it right? It would be boring to know all the info now.

I only try to point some mistakes or crazy speculations about the machine.
 
lherre said:

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Do you have a history on Gaf btw as an insider? And how reliable is your source? I think I remember you saying you work for a company that has a kit but don't work directly on it yourself.
 
lherre said:

Are you able to lend credence to the reports in Develop? As in, has that range shifted at all in recent months, or have you any inkling that they're teetering up the scale in that 'target range'?

Are you working on the system yourself or is it more your colleagues?
 
guek said:
Do you have a history on Gaf btw as an insider? And how reliable is your source? I think I remember you saying you work for a company that has a kit but don't work directly on it yourself.

Nirolak (a mod here) can backup me I think.

With sure, I'm saying that the memory is 1gb at least.
 
AzaK said:
I don't pay much attention to die size stuff, but whether the Wii U itself is going to even be 28 is debatable? Are you saying that in 1 year no progress at all would be made in tech? Even if it's not a die shrink, we could see improvements in other areas.

Anyway my general point was that as time goes by things get better so people shouldn't stress that the next box or ps4 is going to be more powerful than Wii U because, well, it's almost inevitable. If not, that's even better for Nintendo.
Yeah, it's debatable.

Without a die shrink, advancement tends to be really small unless a new architecture is made. AMD won't have a significant new arch ready for 2013, so there would not be much of a jump. Maybe 20-30%.

JoshuaJSlone said:
They had no problem getting the big Ubisoft games back when it was feasible. Assassin's Creed is also one that has specifically been announced.
Assassin's Creed was also announced for 3DS.

If it's a good game, they'll move it to the other consoles instead.
 
lherre said:
Nirolak (a mod here) can backup me I think.

With sure, I'm saying that the memory is 1gb at least.

I have a question for the insider man.

IS the amount of ram you have seen so far some kind of crazy goonskate number like 1.42 GB or 993 MB or does it follow standard denominations?
 
lherre said:
Hehe, I wish I could "paste" here the info I have about the system but ... it is more fun to try to guess and speculate about it right? It would be boring to know all the info now.

I only try to point some mistakes or crazy speculations about the machine.

No, honestly everyone would just prefer to know :)

Anyway, does WiiU have more than 1.1GB of RAM? (we'll just go up and up until he says no :D)
 
Donnie said:
No, honestly everyone would just prefer to know :)

Anyway, does WiiU have more than 1.1GB of RAM? (we'll just go up and up until he says no :D)

He said that Wii U will stay far away from speculated 3gb PS4/720, so it's probably will be close 1gb, 1.5gb my guess.
 
Two questions:

- Is it a unified memory pool?
- Do you personally think it's a satisfactory amount of RAM in there or should Nintendo opt for some more?

Allude to these answers any way you can if you don't thik a straight answer is the best idea now lherre.
 
lherre said:
Hehe, I wish I could "paste" here the info I have about the system but ... it is more fun to try to guess and speculate about it right? It would be boring to know all the info now.

I only try to point some mistakes or crazy speculations about the machine.
GPU: 1GHz core, 4GHz mem (effective)

Good?
 
TunaLover said:
He said that Wii U will stay far away from speculated 3gb PS4/720, so it's probably will be close 1gb, 1.5gb my guess.

Crytek's 8Gb confirmed. That's pretty far from 3Gb. :) Good news though, it's nice to get a little bit of info to quell the thirst.
 
Log4Girlz said:
It will be 1 gigabyte, I'm calling it.

Yeah, what are drawing this from other than feeling like you need to appeal to the lowest common denominator just because it's nintendo?

Personally I think it's going to be some weird funky number like 1.3 or 1.4
 
guek said:
Yeah, what are drawing this from other than feeling like you need to appeal to the lowest common denominator just because it's nintendo?

Personally I think it's going to be some weird funky number like 1.3 or 1.4

1.34GB of RAM, the best amount.
 
I hope Nintendo "reboots" Mario Kart. Take everything back to the basics:

-No hang gliding, underwater, motorcycles--none of that crap
-No blue shell nonsense
-Make the karts feel fast again
-Give some weight to the karts, no more floaty physics
-Coins (they are in MK7, right?)

Maybe add an adventure mode, à la Diddy Kong Racing, but make it optional. Remake some of the old tracks but completely upgrade them graphically. Don't be lazy, Nintendo.
 
EA COO Peter Moore recently sat down with Famitsu to talk about all sorts of things, including the Wii U. Moore talked excitedly about the system and teased “extensive” online features for the console.

He said:

“It’s a very exciting machine and I’m glad to see it out there. I mean, a hi-def Nintendo platform! There’s nothing that could make me happier. Its online capabilities are really extensive, too, so we’ll be able to differentiate ourselves from the competition more easily with our sports lineup. We can’t announce anything yet, but what I can say is that Nintendo is a company that’s been producing new types of play culture for years. The 3DS and Wii U have taken on that DNA, so I really can’t wait to see what kind of new surprises are waiting for us.”

http://nintendoeverything.com/77499/moore-wii-u-is-a-very-exciting-machine-features-extensive-online-capabilities/
 
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