Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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AbsoluteZero
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guek said:
...no.
AceBandage
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Right. Technically it's the current generation. It won't be in the previous one until the Wii U comes out.AbsoluteZero said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
StevieP said:
Gahiggidy has been banned 3 times, Drinky Crow 7, and drohne 9.
Grampa Simpson
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StevieP said:
Oh. He has legendary status no doubt, but that doesn't make him unbannable.
StevieP said:
It really depends on when the PS4/720 come out and what they feature. If they are just beefed up PS360 and come out 5 years after the Wii U, then I would happily relegate the Wii U to late 7th generation. If they come sooner and add a tablet, then I'd be happy to relegate them and the Wii U to the 8th generation. See?
opticalmace
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I see what you mean. Personally I group generations by when consoles are released, which seems fairly reliable--you can't let one competitor sit around with a new console for 3 years or they'll eat up market share, so there tends to be a clustering effect. I expect the 720/PS4 to come out within 1 year or possibly up to 1.5 years of the Wii U for this reason.Grampa Simpson said:
I guess this wouldn't apply if the Wii U bombed or something though [such that the 720/PS4 could be put off till later], but that doesn't seem realistic.
Nightbringer
Don´t hit me for my bad english plase
Let´see...
HD Generation PowerPC Core
3.2Ghz
Long pipeline (21 Stages if I don´t remember wrong)
Dual Issue
In-Order
Multithreading
VMX
Big
Hot
PowerPC 476FP
1.6Ghz
Short Pipeline (9 Stages)
Out-of-Order
No-Multithreading
Small (3.6mm core+4mm 512KB core)
1.9W per core
Put 3 of them inside a die with their L2 Caches and you will get a CPU that is not more bigger than the Broadway included with the Wii, with similar power consumption and 10 times more powerful. More than enough for a next generation jump.
HD Generation PowerPC Core
3.2Ghz
Long pipeline (21 Stages if I don´t remember wrong)
Dual Issue
In-Order
Multithreading
VMX
Big
Hot
PowerPC 476FP
1.6Ghz
Short Pipeline (9 Stages)
Out-of-Order
No-Multithreading
Small (3.6mm core+4mm 512KB core)
1.9W per core
Put 3 of them inside a die with their L2 Caches and you will get a CPU that is not more bigger than the Broadway included with the Wii, with similar power consumption and 10 times more powerful. More than enough for a next generation jump.
bgassassin
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max-pain said:
It's a speculation thread, why so serious? I even mentioned that it would be customized. The point was just looking at what it could/would be based on.
Kansasdude2009 said:
There's already a thread on it actually (beaten). But if it's ok with the mods, hardware can be dropped from the title.
People have to bitch about a thread marked speculation. They can stop posting in this thread if they do not like it or post 100% sourced info to disprove.bgassassin said:
The Fact is there are only 2 CPU types IBM are working on right now that the Wii U can be based on Power 7 or PowerPC A2. Seeing as a Significant quantity of eDRAM is said to be present that strongly suggests A2 is likely not the chip its based on as A2 is designed with only 8MB for the entire chip.
http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?p=26830575Kansasdude2009 said:Ah sorry. I couldn't find it when I searched. Can you link? I would like to see discussion.
Last few pages.
bgassassin
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J-Rock said:
Sounds like it would fit perfectly just like when I did play Pokemon. I didn't catch 'em all and I can see the same thing happening with things still getting topics.
I also added Hiltz and Penguin's post to the OP a little earlier.
antonz said:
Yeah I don't get that. If he doesn't want to agree that's fine, but that was kind of extreme. And like you and I believe someone else said those are the only possibilities that it could be based on and the A2 could be eliminated. Looking back at the press release the key part(s) are.
IBM must have created another advanced, energy saving CPU that they still haven't told us about. And the eDRAM is obvious.
Even the context of the Engadget "article" made it sound like the Watson quote came from IBM and not Engadget. When I read it, it sounds like IBM told them that it was a 45nm custom chip, had "lots" of eDRAM, has a silicon on insulator design, and that the tech is based on what was used in Watson which is Power7. Then when Engadget asked them about the clock speeds, IBM would not give them that info.
Axkil aka StabMasterArson
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Shiiit that's alot of bans for three people combined. Maybe i missed reading it in the agreement, but how long does a ban last? Damnit i wanted to quote a comment...oops
AceBandage
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Bans vary based on the offense.Axkil aka StabMasterArson said:
AceBandage
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Developers being excited for a Nintendo console legitimately. I can dig it.
DaSorcerer7
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Penguin said:
and the hits keep on coming
bgassassin
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Another nice find Penguin.
Here is an article from gamesradar that consolidates the main points mentioned since E3 and attempts to conclude the power from those points. His conclusion though ends up being like most of us, but still a nice read.
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/so-how-...ok-at-all-the-evidence/a-20110621124648952078
Here is an article from gamesradar that consolidates the main points mentioned since E3 and attempts to conclude the power from those points. His conclusion though ends up being like most of us, but still a nice read.
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/so-how-...ok-at-all-the-evidence/a-20110621124648952078
DaSorcerer7
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Crytek....Valve....Epic.....serious third party support incoming?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Penguin said:
If Nintendo wants a huge advantage with this system they need to pulling out all the stops and rolling out the red carpet to Valve to get Steam on the system.
That would be GIGANTIC.
Axkil aka StabMasterArson
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Oh yes i agree, some serious shit IS going down. I really think Nintendo means it with the Third Parties this time. Two to three months from now more will be revealed and naysayers will be taken aback.Big One said:
opticalmace
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How would Steam on the Wii U even work? I guess I could see some Steamworks titles a la Portal 2 on PS3, but a Steam DD platform on Wii U doesn't make sense to me. I assume Nintendo will have their own DD service and wouldn't want a rival on the same console..?AzureJericho said:
BlackNMild2k1
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Penguin said:
Sounds like Hip Hop Gamer was on the money with this one.
J-Rock said:
Sorry, I should have explained better. I'm not saying the Wii is a last gen console. Of course it's part of the current gen. But therein lies the problem with Gabe saying the Wii U is more powerful than the "previous generation." The 360 and PS3 are certainly not yet part of the previous generation. They're a part of the current generation of consoles, as is the wii. They wont become the previous gen until the next gen gets here.
So when Gabe says the Wii U is more powerful than the previou gen, he could only really be talking about the Wii because that's the preceding nintendo console. If he had said current gen, it would be a more inclusive statement that would cover both the wii and the HD twins.
bgassassin
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opticalmace said:
Probably depends on how much leeway Nintendo is giving with their online service.
Jin34 said:
Said that Gabe was big on the Wii U about a month before E3 and that Gabe also liked the new online system Nintendo was implementing. Also talked about Nintendo's new console about a month before the French site leaked the info.
BlackNMild2k1
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Jin34 said:
That Gabe Newell was impressed with WiiU and it's ease of development.
http://www.hiphopgamershow.com/2011...-nintendo-aims-to-kill-competition-hhgs-5811/
start @ 12:29
HipHopGamer also said: "Developers are guaranteeing that you will get more out of Nintendo's Online that you will from Xbox Live."
It's a bold claim to make, but one I am fully prepared to see realized.
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