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[brochiller]

I'd say anything is possible now. At the very least we should expect a coming-out party again at TGS/October where they present the system all over again. In hopefully a more compelling way, with concrete example of how it changes things.

I don't like the whole 'you' thing, apart from making no sense with the Wii part as mentioned it's also going against Nintendo's strength which is social gaming, local multi-player.

I'd prefer Nintendo U, with the U being short for Unlimited. As in unlimited ways to play. If they are trying to cover all bases, them let the angle of the system reflect that. That would fit with the whole asymmetrical gaming aspect, although would require them to get round the limitation of one U controller to be unlimited.

But I'd really like to see that limitation go anyway, I think that is quite a problem for the system.

That would be great. Nintendo Unlimited would be a cool name actually, and Nintendo U would be much, much better than Wii U.

They are focusing on how many different ways to play there are what with the use of the Wii U controller and Wii remotes, so why focus the name on just one person. I really don't see where Nintendo is coming from with the name.

 

[hellclerk]

You're right. Blanket statements like, "Anyone who saw the conference wouldn't be confused" is a much more convincing argument.

The general tone after the conference was confusion. It's a fact. We were left with more questions than answers.

But since you're not convinced, how about this quote:

"Because we put so much emphasis on the controller, there appeared to be some misunderstanding. We should have made more effort to explain how it works."

Who said that?

http://purenintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/iwata.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]
The general tone after the conference was "Shit, we know jack about this system". You're right, we were left with more questions than answers, but one of the questions wasn't "Is this a new system or just a new peripheral?" That was answered BEFORE the conference, and if you weren't convinced, during the conference as well. Mr. Iwata admitted that they could have been clearer, but that's besides the point; being clear is on them. Understanding what they were saying is on us. Was there some confusion as to the status of the console as the conference went on? Sure, I watched it go down here. Was there confusion after the conference was over? No, only people who didn't see the conference and trolls thought otherwise. But after that point, all of the questions surrounded the capabilities of the console, not whether or not it existed.

Was their some confusion? Sure! Is that confusion difficult to remedy? Fuck no! Seriously, getting uptight about this is moron's delight, just like that image you posted with the google search!

 

[BurntPork]

That would be great. Nintendo Unlimited would be a cool name actually, and Nintendo U would be much, much better than Wii U.

They are focusing on how many different ways to play there are what with the use of the Wii U controller and Wii remotes, so why focus the name on just one person. I really don't see where Nintendo is coming from with the name.

That name would scare off the casuals very quickly, though. It's too gamer-oriented. Wii 2 is the only name that works, sadly, unless Nintendo gets a competent advertising department. (lol)

Anyway, don't all of the registered Wii U trademarks mean that it would cost Nintendo a lot of money if they change the name?

 

[Duallusion]

As has probably been said many times before, it should be either Super Wii, Wii 2 or Wii Too.

Wii U just doesn't roll off one's tongue well, among other mentioned problems.

 

[Lord Ghirahim]

I remember at least one newspaper in the UK reported it as a new controller for the Wii.

Yes, The Sun.

 

[AceBandage]

Haha, The Sun.
What a piece of shit.

 

[DECK'ARD]

That would be great. Nintendo Unlimited would be a cool name actually, and Nintendo U would be much, much better than Wii U.

They are focusing on how many different ways to play there are what with the use of the Wii U controller and Wii remotes, so why focus the name on just one person. I really don't see where Nintendo is coming from with the name.

It fits with the TV-off aspect as well, no longer limited by the TV.

The system needs an easy to get angle that resonate with people, at the moment it's very confusing and contradictory in places.

Nintendo U not only sounds better, but Unlimited ways to play actually gets across what it is about. Whereas Nintendo really struggled with that at E3.

 

[brochiller]

That name would scare off the casuals very quickly, though. It's too gamer-oriented. Wii 2 is the only name that works, sadly, unless Nintendo gets a competent advertising department. (lol)

Anyway, don't all of the registered Wii U trademarks mean that it would cost Nintendo a lot of money if they change the name?

I would seriously be fine with anything but them just sticking a letter after "Wii." The last time they did that was with the DSi, so people are now accustom to them using that as a way so signify a revision to an existing console. That space between the "Wii" and the "U" isn't going to make that much of a difference.

It fits with the TV-off aspect as well, no longer limited by the TV.

The system needs an easy to get angle that resonate with people, at the moment it's very confusing and contradictory in places.

Nintendo U not only sounds better, but Unlimited ways to play actually gets across what it is about. Whereas Nintendo really struggled with that at E3.

Plus it's really what they're going for. They want to give you every way to play imaginable. Whether it be traditional controls, using a touch screen, just a Wii remote, Wii remote and nunchuck, using the pad with a Wii remote, etc. They always say they focus on how you interact with the game, so why not make that the focus of the name?

 

[AceBandage]

Wii U is very lazy naming.
They really should have gone with Nintendo or Nintendo U or something like that.
Something that pushes their brand better. I don't care how much recognition the Wii name gets, it's almost all bad these days.

 

[herzogzwei1989]

Any speculation about how much eDRAM will be in Wii U's IBM CPU? The Xenon CPU in Xbox 360 had only 1 MB of L2 cache. So I wonder about Wii U's Power7 derived CPU, what IBM means by "a lot". Does 8 MB eDRAM (or L2/L3) seem reasonable ?

 

[Gravijah]

I was personally rooting for the Goddamn Nintendo.

 

[AceBandage]

Any speculation about how much eDRAM will be in Wii U's IBM CPU? The Xenon CPU in Xbox 360 had only 1 MB of L2 cache. So I wonder about Wii U's Power7 derived CPU, what IBM means by "a lot". Does 8 MB eDRAM (or L2/L3) seem reasonable ?

Up to 16MB seems to be thrown out a lot.

 

[brochiller]

Up to 16MB seems to be thrown out a lot.

That beyond3D article speculated that it would be 16MB too.

 

[BurntPork]

Wii U = Wii Unbound (as in, unbound by the TV)

That is all.

 

[Gravijah]

Wii U = Wii Unbound (as in, unbound by the TV)

That is all.

Nuh uh, it's called the Wii U because only one player gets to use the tablet.

 

[BurntPork]

Nuh uh, it's called the Wii U because only one player gets to use the tablet.

Not if Nintendo says otherwise.

Wii U: "We are unbound."

 

[abstract alien]

Yeah, they really do need to ditch the wii name. Not because its bad, but because its finished. All of their systems are called the Nintendo _____, so there is no need for the Nintendo Wii _____. Those types of names are saved for their new iterations and models. Nintendo trained the public into this habit, so why they would break it is beyond me.

Just Nintendo _____.

 

[phosphor112]

Some of you guys are just so defensive. Have you EVER given a fucking thought that the letter "U" adds NOTHING to the name "Wii?" GBP, GPC, GBA, all stand for something.

Pocket, Color, and Advanced. Respectively. Showing there is clearly a difference between the models.

Nintendo Entertainment System?
SUPER Nintendo Entertainment System.

Wii?
Wii U...?

FFS, even the 360 has a "S" model.

360 S. People see it's only a revision, not a new platform.

Stop being such fanboys and try to think like a normal consumer for a second. Seriously.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Not if Nintendo says otherwise.

Wii U: "We are unbound."

That would set a very bad precedent for what Ridge Racer we get.

Let's not encourage that, please.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Name won't change, but the approach probably will. Wii U's not any worse than Xbox 360 or Game Boy Advance were as far as naming impacting consumer confusion between generations. And unlike the 3DS, it wasn't proceeded by 3 variants of it's predecessor.

 

[BurntPork]

Yeah, they really do need to ditch the wii name. Not because its bad, but because its finished. All of their systems are called the Nintendo _____, so there is no need for the Nintendo Wii _____. Those types of names are saved for their new iterations and models. Nintendo trained the public into this habit, so why they would break it is beyond me.

Just Nintendo _____.

But they also need something to gain the attention of the mainstream. It would be hard to create another brand like that, and if they do, we'll still hate it.

Some of you guys are just so defensive. Have you EVER given a fucking thought that the letter "U" adds NOTHING to the name "Wii?" GBP, GPC, GBA, all stand for something.

Pocket, Color, and Advanced. Respectively. Showing there is clearly a difference between the models.

Nintendo Entertainment System?
SUPER Nintendo Entertainment System.

Wii?
Wii U...?

FFS, even the 360 has a "S" model.

360 S. People see it's only a revision, not a new platform.

Stop being such fanboys and try to think like a normal consumer for a second. Seriously.

I solved the problem, I'm a genius, Nintendo should hire me.

That would set a very bad precedent for what Ridge Racer we get.

Let's not encourage that, please.

That's what I like Wii Freedom better.

Spoiler

To warn you guys, I'm out of pills.

 

[FreeMufasa]

It doesn't help that the name makes no sense either.

If Wii is a play on 'we' and U is a play on 'you', then what the Hell is a We You?

It just sounds wrong, hasn't grown on me at all yet.

I thought it was a play on trying to make it sound like Wii 2 without calling it that.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Some of you guys are just so defensive. Have you EVER given a fucking thought that the letter "U" adds NOTHING to the name "Wii?" GBP, GPC, GBA, all stand for something.

Pocket, Color, and Advanced. Respectively. Showing there is clearly a difference between the models.

Nintendo Entertainment System?
SUPER Nintendo Entertainment System.

Wii?
Wii U...?

FFS, even the 360 has a "S" model.

360 S. People see it's only a revision, not a new platform.

Stop being such fanboys and try to think like a normal consumer for a second. Seriously.

Did people see 'Xbox 360' as simply an Xbox revision? What exactly does '360' mean and add to 'Xbox'?

 

[abstract alien]

But they also need something to gain the attention of the mainstream. It would be hard to create another brand like that, and if they do, we'll still hate it.

Its nintendo, the company that just sold the hottest console this generation and ignited gaming again for the entire family. Not only that, but they have shown that motion control can be a viable form of input, and the wii will be leaving with what could be one of the best games this generation: Skyward Sword. A game heavily based on motion control to the point of it not being able to be reproduced without it.

They don't need to call it Wii ____, as the Nintendo moniker is what people are going to associate it with. Honestly, the more we hate it, the better.

 

[Gravijah]

Did people see 'Xbox 360' as simply an Xbox revision? What exactly does '360' mean and add to 'Xbox'?

Numbers, even when they are nonsensical, usually tell consumers it's a new product.

 

[DECK'ARD]

I thought it was a play on trying to make it sound like Wii 2 without calling it that.

No, they said at the unveiling that the focus was on 'you', the one holding the controller.

So when paired with Wii, which we've had hammered into us stands for 'we' even down to the logo, it prompted me to go 'eh?'.

'We You' just makes no sense, which is why it sounds odd as well. Months on and it still sounds weird saying it.

 

[[Nintex]]

Wii U = Wii Unbound (as in, unbound by the TV)

That is all.

No not really it is like a Wii for you. So millions of marketing spending later and someone taps himself on the back and Wii U rolls out. That blue U thingy looks out of place, doesn't fit with the logo at all. Maybe they should just call it Nintendo U. They had Mii, Wii and now U. Makes sense in a crazy Nintendo sort of way.

 

[BurntPork]

Its nintendo, the company that just sold the hottest console this generation and ignited gaming again for the entire family. Not only that, but they have shown that motion control can be a viable form of input, and the wii will be leaving with what could be one of the best games this generation: Skyward Sword. A game heavily based on motion control to the point of it not being able to be reproduced without it.

They don't need to call it Wii ____, as the Nintendo moniker is what people are going to associate it with. Honestly, the more we hate it, the better.

That only works if Nintendo gets a competent marking department. Their current one is terrible, and every single person in it needs to be replaced by November before they start making people think that Mario Kart 7 is MKDS.

 

[abstract alien]

That only works if Nintendo gets a competent marking department. Their current one is terrible, and every single person in it needs to be replaced by November before they start making people think that Mario Kart 7 is MKDS.

I can't deny this lol

 

[Gravijah]

No not really it is like a Wii for you. So millions of marketing spending later and someone taps himself on the back and Wii U rolls out. That blue U thingy looks out of place, doesn't fit with the logo at all. Maybe they should just call it Nintendo U. They had Mii, Wii and now U. Makes sense in a crazy Nintendo sort of way.

Maybe Nintendo will go back to the drawing board and come back with a better name. They can pretend that it's a codename, like the Revolution.

 

[[Nintex]]

That only works if Nintendo gets a competent marking department. Their current one is terrible, and every single person in it needs to be replaced by November before they start making people think that Mario Kart 7 is MKDS.

That's still quite strange, that Nintendo somehow trolled themselves by naming Mario Kart 3DS Mario Kart 7, maybe their solution is a new Mario Kart every year starting with 7.

Maybe Nintendo will go back to the drawing board and come back with a better name. They can pretend that it's a codename, like the Revolution.

You'd think so, but it's Nintendo so instead of changing the name they'll like add something to it like name it Wii + U. They're Nintendo after all the solutions they come up with rarely make any sense at all.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Numbers, even when they are nonsensical, usually tell consumers it's a new product.

Super NES? Game Boy Advance? PlayStation Vita? PC-FX?

 

[rpmurphy]

Did people see 'Xbox 360' as simply an Xbox revision? What exactly does '360' mean and add to 'Xbox'?

They are lacking the mystique of a pie-in-the-sky next generation console though. They did not at all speak in generational terms or reinforce the fact that they are leading the next generation of consoles. They need to do that. They focused way too much on the functions and not leaving the people with thoughts of mystery and wild imagination. They did it right with the Revolution and Wii reveals and they should have done the same. This time they rushed into revealing the Wii and not enough time revealing the Revolution.

 

[agrajag]

Yeah, it's a dumb name.

 

[Gravijah]

Super NES? Game Boy Advance? PlayStation Vita? PC-FX?

You were talking about the 360. Words obviously can work too, but the U just doesn't seem to work that well.

Spoiler

Though you could have countered with the "3DS". ;p

 

[PdotMichael]

Super NES? Game Boy Advance? PlayStation Vita? PC-FX?

If you don't see the diference, you are silly.

 

[blu]

Super NES? Game Boy Advance? PlayStation Vita? PC-FX?

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[Easy_D]

Wii U is very lazy naming.
They really should have gone with Nintendo or Nintendo U or something like that.
Something that pushes their brand better. I don't care how much recognition the Wii name gets, it's almost all bad these days.

"Nintendo Wii" because it was about the experience with other players. "Nintendo U" because it's all about finding what works for you as a player. Yeah Nintendo U would work better.

 

[phosphor112]

Did people see 'Xbox 360' as simply an Xbox revision? What exactly does '360' mean and add to 'Xbox'?

No, because as someone mentioned, adding a number usually means a full fledged sequel. Not only that, but the 360 doesn't LOOK like the Xbox, unlike the Wii and Wii U.

 

[Krev]

No not really it is like a Wii for you. So millions of marketing spending later and someone taps himself on the back and Wii U rolls out. That blue U thingy looks out of place, doesn't fit with the logo at all. Maybe they should just call it Nintendo U. They had Mii, Wii and now U. Makes sense in a crazy Nintendo sort of way.

Yes, and there's no reason 'U' can't be sold as something that meshes with all your Wii stuff, which was seemingly why they decided on 'Wii U' in the first place.

 

[[Nintex]]

No, because as someone mentioned, adding a number usually means a full fledged sequel. Not only that, but the 360 doesn't LOOK like the Xbox, unlike the Wii and Wii U.

The gaming industry is probably still out for Moore's blood on that one. He killed numbered consoles in one swoop.

 

[hellclerk]

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SUPER NINTENDO SEGA GENESIS. IT'S SIXTEEN MOTHAFUCK'N GODDAMNED BITS. (possibly nsfw)

 

[Gravijah]

The gaming industry is probably still out for Moore's blood on that one. He killed numbered consoles in one swoop.

Not that very many existed before then. Playstation 1/2... What else? Stuff like Nintendo 64, but that's a bit different.

 

[royalan]

I think the "Wii" brand would do more to turn away casuals than "Nintendo" because the confusion factor isn't there with Nintendo. Yeah, Nintendo didn't do any Wii revisions, but it did do:

Wii Zapper
Wii Wheel
Wii Balance Board
Wii Motion Plus

It'll be really easy for casuals to just think "another Wii add-on" when they see another thing That's just the Wii brand with another word attached to it. It doesn't really drive home that this is something new.

Bringing back the Nintendo brand not only drives home that this is something totally new (and I don't think it'll confuse casuals that much. Even my mother knows that the Wii is a Nintendo box, at this point), but it'll really stir up the hardcore gamer demographic that Nitnendo says it's going after this time around.

I think Nintendo U is leagues better than Wii. And, personally, as a gamer if I saw a new console with that classic Nintendo branding on it, I'd probably need to change my underwear.

EDIT: Another thing they to do is to stop referring to the controller as the "New" Controller. That wording being used throughout the E3 reveal video was probably the biggest culprit for why people thought the Wii U was just an add-on. The Wii U is a new system, and this is the controller for it. Period. Even though you can use Wii controllers with the Wii U (which I think is terrible) that's just a convenience. This is the controller for the Wii U.

 

[phosphor112]

The gaming industry is probably still out for Moore's blood on that one. He killed numbered consoles in one swoop.

Lol, well it was either that, or PS3 vs Xbox 2.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

No, because as someone mentioned, adding a number usually means a full fledged sequel. Not only that, but the 360 doesn't LOOK like the Xbox, unlike the Wii and Wii U.

You mean like the Genesis 3?

I can agree on the console look, and that's something I do see them evolving more. It's horizontal only though, so that's already a little different from Wii, which was always marketed vertically.

 

[Gravijah]

You mean like the Genesis 3?

I can agree on the console look, and that's something I do see them evolving more. It's horizontal only though, so that's already a little different from Wii, which was always marketed vertically.

You shouldn't use Sega as an example. They weren't exactly known for doing intelligent things.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Not that very many existed before then. Playstation 1/2... What else? Stuff like Nintendo 64, but that's a bit different.

MSX-2 is the only one I can think of?

 

[Krev]

Lol, well it was either that, or PS3 vs Xbox 2.

...vs Nintendo Revolution (or so they thought).
The real reason they settled on 360. The most elegant way to kill two birds with one stone.

 

[phosphor112]

You mean like the Genesis 3?

I can agree on the console look, and that's something I do see them evolving more. It's horizontal only though, so that's already a little different from Wii, which was always marketed vertically.

Are you really using the orientation of the console as damage control?
Both are tiny white boxes with a little access flap in the front. Yes the Wii U is marketed vertically, but it can easily be placed horizontally.

And regarding your idiotic Genesis 3 remark, here is that picture of the tower of power for you.