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[ecosse_011172]

There is no evidence that they are doing it again, just because they were conservative about one aspect of a previous console's specs does not mean that the conservative language used is any way inaccurate just because early dev kits were buggy and overheating.

I suspect that final specs are not yet set in stone but all the available evidence sadly points to being a mild step up from the PS360.
It's a shame, I'd love to see the likes of Retro, Monolith and EAD Tokyo let loose on some serious hardware, I don't think Nintendo will get away with going cheap again. Hopefully their 3DS experience has taught them that.

They really need to increase the size of the face buttons on the controller, a home console with a handheld size buttons is utterly moronic, no analogue triggers in 2011 is another example of Nintendo being frustratingly tight arsed.

 

[EloquentM]

And here I thought the thread was bumped because of new rumors =\

 

[Smiles and Cries]

And here I thought the thread was bumped because of new rumors =\

I still fall for it

 

[BY2K]

Nintendo Wii U in development hell? 01net is at it again.

Didn't Vigil said it only took them a month to have Darksiders 2 running on Wii U?

 

[Ushojax]

Nintendo Wii U in development hell? 01net is at it again.

Didn't Vigil said it only took them a month to have Darksiders 2 running on Wii U?

Old story. Not that it isn't true, but every console ever made has gone through this kind of thing. Early hardware and development software are always slapdash, cobbled together pieces of shit that barely work but improve as time goes on. A year away from launch this is totally normal.

 

[EatChildren]

That sounds very similar to that batch of rumours that cropped up at the same time as the 3DS analogue nub.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were problems. Last I heard they still hadn't fixed the overheating issue with the GPU, and it was still under clocked. Plus, after the nub rumour, 01net has been nothing short of 100% accurate with almost everything.

I hate to say it, but I really dont have much faith in the Wii U. This is probably the first time I've ever felt this way to an unreleased Nintendo system.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Ugh, CVG and their slow news day stories.

 

[antonz]

Yeah its an old story that is getting new life due to 01net being partially right. They got the 2nd stick part right but what they said it was is totally off base

 

[Shiggy]

Nintendo Wii U in development hell? 01net is at it again.

Didn't Vigil said it only took them a month to have Darksiders 2 running on Wii U?

Old and nothing surprising. The issues are actually believable as it's not completely absurd, especially in light of the three things 01net was already right about.

And the official comments are a wholly different story - of course they are positive. Only dumb developers complain about it publicly when they want to work with Nintendo.

 

[StevieP]

That sounds very similar to that batch of rumours that cropped up at the same time as the 3DS analogue nub.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were problems. Last I heard they still hadn't fixed the overheating issue with the GPU, and it was still under clocked. Plus, after the nub rumour, 01net has been nothing short of 100% accurate with almost everything.

I hate to say it, but I really dont have much faith in the Wii U. This is probably the first time I've ever felt this way to an unreleased Nintendo system.

Enh. In regards to 01net... whenever you read their stories, think of it with a "what would an employee at Ubisoft know?"

I suspect that final specs are not yet set in stone but all the available evidence sadly points to being a mild step up from the PS360.

My primary gaming PC is orders of magnitude more powerful than the PS360 (combined) and will be far more powerful than the Wii U. But it will also be more powerful than the next consoles that MS and Sony come out with. Guess what? They're all going to be capable of fully capable of running the same games. I believe there is going to be even less hardware separation this gen than there was in the 6th generation (PS2). The third party exclusive is dead, and the word of the day is "port" thanks to grossly high budgets..

 

[schuelma]

I am curious as to when Nintendo will bring up Wii U again. Obviously next week is titled a 3DS conference, but I do wonder whether Nintendo will compelled to say something about the system after the E3 confusion.

If not, I would guess it would not be until early next year.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

That sounds very similar to that batch of rumours that cropped up at the same time as the 3DS analogue nub.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were problems. Last I heard they still hadn't fixed the overheating issue with the GPU, and it was still under clocked. Plus, after the nub rumour, 01net has been nothing short of 100% accurate with almost everything.

I hate to say it, but I really dont have much faith in the Wii U. This is probably the first time I've ever felt this way to an unreleased Nintendo system.

I feel pretty much feel the same way. I really have little faith in the WiiU starting with hating the logo so I am using it as an avatar because its so damn silly (Ustream logo)

Also I have no faith in WiiU power wise, the only thing I am excited about is an HD Nintendo system. HD Nintendo games even on the level of PS3 would be very sweet

 

[jump_button]

I am curious as to when Nintendo will bring up Wii U again. Obviously next week is titled a 3DS conference, but I do wonder whether Nintendo will compelled to say something about the system after the E3 confusion.

If not, I would guess it would not be until early next year.

Well for 3DS they did have a 3DS press event with jonathan ross maybe they will do the same for Wii U?

 

[Plinko]

Nintendo Wii U in development hell? 01net is at it again.

Didn't Vigil said it only took them a month to have Darksiders 2 running on Wii U?

Still sticking with my prediction that this system does not release as initially planned. I think they're going to be making some major changes.

 

[Man]

Still sticking with my prediction that this system does not release as initially planned. I think they're going to be making some major changes.

Wii U seems to be in a non-existing state. 3DS looked in great shape the year before release.
And considering the 3DS disaster we are viewing now I would be surprised if Wii U releases before Xmas period next year.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I know for a fact that the streaming issue was taken care of in the latest devkit revision. Next one down the pipe is apparently coming before the end of the year.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I know for a fact that the streaming issue was taken care of in the latest devkit revision. Next one down the pipe is apparently coming before the end of the year.

that is a huge step its like the main bread and butter of the WiiU

 

[specialguy]

Still sticking with my prediction that this system does not release as initially planned. I think they're going to be making some major changes.

No way. It's way too late.

If the original 01net report was true it will enter production in November, in building stockpiles for a 2012 release. That's not far away...

 

[manueldelalas]

The thing that excites me more about the WiiU is the streaming, that's fucking genius, and I would use it on streaming every time. Thing is my wife doesn't like VG in general and she watches the news and shitty stuff on the TV, and obviously, I can't get away, so that's the best thing about the console for me.

The second thing that excites me is the whole lot of options developers will have, I mean, probably the nunchuck will die, but you can do anything with a wiimote and wiitablet; gyroscopes, microphone, speakers, the touch screen, the screen itself, the inputs; every game in history can be played on the Wii U, it's awesome. Once someone cracks it, it will be the ultimate emulator console.

One thing I didn't know is that the Wii U controller has an HDMI port, so you can connect it to any TV or computer and use that as the main screen; that's awesome, because you don't have to move your console to play in another room, I hope they keep this feature in the final version.

 

[StevieP]

No way. It's way too late.

If the original 01net report was true it will enter production in November, in building stockpiles for a 2012 release. That's not far away...

I'd forgotten that only Sony and MS can make changes to their production systems months before release.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Wii U seems to be in a non-existing state. 3DS looked in great shape the year before release.

If they're aiming for mid-2012 with Wii U, we'd be about 9.5 months from launch. We never even saw 3DS until 8.5 months from launch.

 

[Javier]

WiiU wasn't even meant to be revealed at E3. There being nothing Nintendo can show yet is nothing surprising.

 

[EloquentM]

I know for a fact that the streaming issue was taken care of in the latest devkit revision. Next one down the pipe is apparently coming before the end of the year.

knowing insiders is a blessing. you're a godsend alberto.

 

[Penguin]

I know this is probably not true at all, but honestly rather speculate about vaporware than specs and a pre-launch console suffering problems (The groundbreakedness!)

http://mynintendonews.com/2011/09/0...usive-look-at-a-never-seen-before-wii-u-game/

Honestly sounds like a load of bunk, but concept art looks cool

 

[[Nintex]]

I know this is probably not true at all, but honestly rather speculate about vaporware than specs and a pre-launch console suffering problems (The groundbreakedness!)

http://mynintendonews.com/2011/09/0...usive-look-at-a-never-seen-before-wii-u-game/

Honestly sounds like a load of bunk, but concept art looks cool

Sadness 2?

 

[watershed]

Definitely Sadness 2. Probably just someone's art they really wanted to shop around the internet.

 

[Penguin]

Sadness 2?

I love vaporware!

I believe there was one for the GameCube, where you were a theft trying to break into an art museum and the likes.

Then there's more believable stuff like The Last Guardian.

 

[StevieP]

Sadness 2?

 

[bgassassin]

There is no evidence that they are doing it again, just because they were conservative about one aspect of a previous console's specs does not mean that the conservative language used is any way inaccurate just because early dev kits were buggy and overheating.

I suspect that final specs are not yet set in stone but all the available evidence sadly points to being a mild step up from the PS360.
It's a shame, I'd love to see the likes of Retro, Monolith and EAD Tokyo let loose on some serious hardware, I don't think Nintendo will get away with going cheap again. Hopefully their 3DS experience has taught them that.

They really need to increase the size of the face buttons on the controller, a home console with a handheld size buttons is utterly moronic, no analogue triggers in 2011 is another example of Nintendo being frustratingly tight arsed.

If that's the case, then there's no evidence that they aren't doing it again. You were the one who said they seemed to be underselling the power and I was showing you that they've done that before.

Anyway there is more evidence that it is not a mild step up than it is. Do you realize the impact of what underclocking can do? Do you realize the impact of using off the shelf parts that cannot replicate the final components? Just on the GPU side we already know that it won't resemble an R700, which would still be two generations newer than what's in PS360. If the final GPU has anything in common with what was in the first dev kit it would be clock and/or SPUs. And the SPUs would be a huge jump over what's in PS360. And that's just looking at the GPU.

WiiU wasn't even meant to be revealed at E3.

When the Wii was first revealed at E3, they only showed the console. We didn't know the name or what the controller look like. Seems to me that Nintendo was doing the same thing with Wii U, but didn't execute it properly.

I love vaporware!

I believe there was one for the GameCube, where you were a theft trying to break into an art museum and the likes.

Then there's more believable stuff like The Last Guardian.

I remember that theft game. I thought it had an interesting concept.

 

[IrrelevantNotch]

Old story. Not that it isn't true, but every console ever made has gone through this kind of thing. Early hardware and development software are always slapdash, cobbled together pieces of shit that barely work but improve as time goes on. A year away from launch this is totally normal.

According to the article, Nintendo is trying to rush it out, which sounds ridiculous. You think they would've learned their lesson with the 3DS.

 

[schuelma]

According to the article, Nintendo is trying to rush it out, which sounds ridiculous. You think they would've learned their lesson with the 3DS.

Nintendo has a balance to reach- you are right, they absolutely cannot rush Wii U out. On the other hand, especially in their home territory, the Wii is virtually dead. Need to get it out as soon as they can.

 

[Hero of Legend]

99.99% fake.

Skimming through the comments, it seems the shots are from Highlander: The Game and Project Offset.

That'd be epic on Wii U though.

 

[Instro]

That site has posted fake news in the past iirc.

 

[antonz]

Either way regarding the 01net article. We have gaf sources and people I have talked to have indicated the stuff 01net reported on is not even an issue anymore.

There is a reason why Dev kits evolve over time. They are never perfect right out of the box.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

God is this ever going to be a long wait to see some original footage (that isn't in alpha/beta stage).
Is it plausible that one game might be announced for Wii U at TGS, or am I just getting my hopes up?

 

[BurntPork]

Either way regarding the 01net article. We have gaf sources and people I have talked to have indicated the stuff 01net reported on is not even an issue anymore.

There is a reason why Dev kits evolve over time. They are never perfect right out of the box.

It also proves that I was right about the source having outdated info. I hate to say I told you so, but...

 

[antonz]

It also proves that I was right about the source having outdated info. I hate to say I told you so, but...

They probably sat on news they heard back before E3 for a slow news period. Because the fixes to the issues I heard were fixed long before they posted the story.

Easy for them to do that because Nintendo isnt gonna comment and they can ride on the coattails of other truths

 

[EatChildren]

Either way regarding the 01net article. We have gaf sources and people I have talked to have indicated the stuff 01net reported on is not even an issue anymore.

There is a reason why Dev kits evolve over time. They are never perfect right out of the box.

I haven't heard anybody state that the chips were running safely at their intended clock, but would be happy to be wrong, as that is a prime concern of mine.

 

[bgassassin]

God is this ever going to be a long wait to see some original footage (that isn't in alpha/beta stage).
Is it plausible that one game might be announced for Wii U at TGS, or am I just getting my hopes up?

With the way the news has been it's hard to say. Obviously things have been quiet, but then we get the DQX on Wii U news. It's probably best to keep you hopes down and be pleasantly surprised.

 

[RedSwirl]

WiiU wasn't even meant to be revealed at E3. There being nothing Nintendo can show yet is nothing surprising.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Frankly I still find it hard to accept that it's going to come out mid-2012. I feel like it could turn out like the 3DS, and I think it should launch in the fall (like the 3DS probably should have).

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

With the way the news has been it's hard to say. Obviously things have been quiet, but then we get the DQX on Wii U news. It's probably best to keep you hopes down and be pleasantly surprised.

I'll try to keep my hopes down, but I'm not making any promises. Even if we get a confirmation that Bioshock Infinite is ACTUALLY coming to the Wii U, I'll be happy, but that seems unlikely. Well only a week(+) until we see.

 

[Zoramon089]

Old and nothing surprising. The issues are actually believable as it's not completely absurd, especially in light of the three things 01net was already right about.

And the official comments are a wholly different story - of course they are positive. Only dumb developers complain about it publicly when they want to work with Nintendo.

Where are people getting this shit from? Devs criticize consoles all the time. Why is it only with Nintendo consoles that devs, all of a sudden, feel compelled to only talk positive about? Explain this to me

 

[Gravijah]

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Frankly I still find it hard to accept that it's going to come out mid-2012. I feel like it could turn out like the 3DS, and I think it should launch in the fall (like the 3DS probably should have).

You think the 3DS should have launched Fall 2011?

 

[Naked Prime]

I've developed this sneaking suspicion that Timesplitter 4 is going to be a featured Wii U title. It was supposed to be debuted around/at E3 and then again at Gamescon, but we got nothing. Wii U's E3 showing was scaled back and the systems showing was also pulled out of Gamescom. I can think of no real reason for Crytek to hold off officially announcing the title. No matter how good TS4 will be a COD, Gears, Halo or Battlefield DLC/release will steal its mindshare from 360 and PS3 gamers. On Wii U, they could really build a new fan base. Besides, a game that parodies the aforementioned titles (from silly plots to game mechanics) may vibe very well with Nintendo's target audience. And the thought of CryEngine map maker plus the Wii U controller = THANK YOU BASED GOD

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

I've developed this sneaking suspicion that Timesplitter 4 is going to be a featured Wii U title. It was supposed to be debuted around/at E3 and then again at Gamescon, but we got nothing. Wii U's E3 showing was scaled back and the systems showing was also pulled out of Gamescom. I can think of no real reason for Crytek to hold off officially announcing the title. No matter how good TS4 will be a COD, Gears, Halo or Battlefield DLC/release will steal its mindshare from 360 and PS3 gamers. On Wii U, they could really build a new fan base. Besides, a game that parodies the aforementioned titles (from silly plots to game mechanics) may vibe very well with Nintendo's target audience. And the thought of CryEngine map maker plus the Wii U controller = THANK YOU BASED GOD

Pardon?

 

[bgassassin]

Pardon?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=439164


And also I understand about keeping hopes in check. It's tough when we're not getting anything. But they did the same with Wii so I guess we shouldn't be too surprised.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=439164


And also I understand about keeping hopes in check. It's tough when we're not getting anything. But they did the same with Wii so I guess we shouldn't be too surprised.

Oh right, that. Could swear that rumor is older then July, but hey what do I know?
I wasn't around for the Wii, so I'm not exactly sure how that played out. My first E3 experience was 2008 (yeah shitty year to start :/). Well maybe we'll be lucky this time...maybe, but I'm sure Nintendo has a tight seal on every developer due to the leak in February, which basically forced them to show it at E3.

 

[bgassassin]

Oh right, that. Could swear that rumor is older then July, but hey what do I know?
I wasn't around for the Wii, so I'm not exactly sure how that played out. My first E3 experience was 2008 (yeah shitty year to start :/). Well maybe we'll be lucky this time...maybe, but I'm sure Nintendo has a tight seal on every developer due to the leak in February, which basically forced them to show it at E3.

Sorry to hear that one was your first, haha. If you thought the Wii U reveal was vague and lacking information, then here is the Wii's reveal. This is where Iwata's "You will say wow" comes from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=69vFDd6PRpc#t=249s

 

[RedSwirl]

You think the 3DS should have launched Fall 2011?

A lot about the 3DS says it just wasn't in the oven long enough - production-wise. For the most part the games aren't here yet, they messed up on the price, it was months until they could get the eShop up yet, etc.

 

[SolarPowered]

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Frankly I still find it hard to accept that it's going to come out mid-2012. I feel like it could turn out like the 3DS, and I think it should launch in the fall (like the 3DS probably should have).

It is not like they are up to their necks in Wii software development here...

Once the 3DS is handled properly the software manages the rest for Nintendo. The Wii-U should have tons of space and time available for development right now, honestly.