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[bgassassin]

If we do, it'll probably be at that Jump event in Japan this September.

*assumes you didn't mean September*

Maybe. All I got was that there would be something this year. I've just continued to believe otherwise till they prove me wrong.

Interesting how the Vita alone can compete (and maybe win) both 3DS and Wii U.

Wii U controller with screen is made mainly because the japanese the market, with your lack of space and different game culture. But the Vita offers the same thing, but with the advantage that you can take it when leaving home.

How can Vita compete alone when it needs the PS3 to do the half-baked version of what you can do on Wii U?

 

[JJConrad]

If we do, it'll probably be at that Jump event in Japan this September.

I'm 100% certain we won't see anything more then.

Interesting how the Vita alone can compete (and maybe win) both 3DS and Wii U.

Wii U controller with screen is made mainly because the japanese the market, with your lack of space and different game culture. But the Vita offers the same thing, but with the advantage that you can take it when leaving home.

...indeed...do tell more.

 

[BurntPork]

DECEMOTHERFUCKBER DAMMIT

Interesting how the Vita alone can compete (and maybe win) both 3DS and Wii U.

Wii U controller with screen is made mainly because the japanese the market, with your lack of space and different game culture. But the Vita offers the same thing, but with the advantage that you can take it when leaving home.

 

[Meikiyou]

*assumes you didn't mean September*

Maybe. All I got was that there would be something this year. I've just continued to believe otherwise till they prove me wrong.



How can Vita compete alone when it needs the PS3 to do the half-baked version of what you can do on Wii U?

I think he wanted to say that all Vita do is half assed ps3 ports.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

I think he wanted to say that all Vita do is half assed ps3 ports.

Don't say that.

It also does Gravity Daze. Or whatever it's being called now. And that looks cool because Gravity Cat.

 

[Luigiv]

Is there some confirmations as how many tablet like controllers it will support?

The hardware is supposedly be able to support 4 controllers simultaneously, though whether Nintendo ever allows that happen is another story. As for now the official plan is to only pack the controllers in with the system and not sell them separately in stores. The reasons for this is unclear but one could speculate that they don't want the price of the individual controls coming back to slap them in the face as a "hidden cost" for all those people who think they have to buy 3 extra controllers the same day they get the system.

 

[Meikiyou]

The hardware is supposedly be able to support 4 controllers simultaneously, though whether Nintendo ever allows that happen is another story. As for now the official plan is to only pack the controllers in with the system and not sell them separately in stores. The reasons for this is unclear but one could speculate that they don't want the price of the individual controls coming back to slap them in the face as a "hidden cost" for all those people who think they have to buy 3 extra controllers the same day they get the system.

Or maybe other people will be able to use their 3DS as the controller?
I think it may have something to do with 3DS being abble to run as the controller it would help both machines sales =3.

 

[GameplayWhore]

Or maybe other people will be able to use their 3DS as the controller?
I think it may have something to do with 3DS being abble to run as the controller it would help both machines sales =3.

Doesn't the functionality of the Wii U depend on a transfer protocol with much lower latency than Wifi, something that 3DS doesn't currently have?

Edit: It would be interesting if the conjectured dual analog redesign included this, though.

 

[Dreamwriter]

The hardware is supposedly be able to support 4 controllers simultaneously

Where did that come from? Last I heard Nintendo wasn't even sure if it would work with two controllers at once, except for some random Canadian PR guy who said for sure it could do two if some developer decided it might be worth it, though the only way to do it that way would be for one player to take his controller to another Wii-U owner's house.

 

[bgassassin]

Where did that come from? Last I heard Nintendo wasn't even sure if it would work with two controllers at once, except for some random Canadian PR guy who said for sure it could do two if some developer decided it might be worth it, though the only way to do it that way would be for one player to take his controller to another Wii-U owner's house.

Last part of the post.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30248363&postcount=5361

 

[Luigiv]

Where did that come from? Last I heard Nintendo wasn't even sure if it would work with two controllers at once, except for some random Canadian PR guy who said for sure it could do two if some developer decided it might be worth it, though the only way to do it that way would be for one player to take his controller to another Wii-U owner's house.

Well I said "supposedly" for a reason. I believe it was part of 01net's rumours.

 

[Dreamwriter]

Last part of the post.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30248363&postcount=5361

LOL. You must have closed yourself off from Nintendo news after E3 since you didn't know about the pictures Wii U's backside either.

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/report-wii-u-can-stream-multiple-controllers

So, the rumor of a video chip being able to output 4 SD images instead of one HD image somehow means that the system and controller's wireless connection has a high enough bandwidth and data reliability to output 4 different screens in less than 1/60th of a second without problems? Of course the video chip can output plenty, the limiting factor here is the wireless bandwidth.

And if it was known that the system could output to four devices at once, why would Nintendo say they hadn't even tested two controllers on one system?

 

[AceBandage]

So, the rumor of a video chip being able to output 4 SD images instead of one HD image somehow means that the system and controller's wireless connection has a high enough bandwidth and data reliability to output 4 different screens in less than 1/60th of a second without problems? Of course the video chip can output plenty, the limiting factor here is the wireless bandwidth.

And if it was known that the system could output to four devices at once, why would Nintendo say they hadn't even tested two controllers on one system?

Nintendo says lots of things...

 

[EloquentM]

Nintendo says lots of things...

check that...oh you get the idea

 

[bgassassin]

So, the rumor of a video chip being able to output 4 SD images instead of one HD image somehow means that the system and controller's wireless connection has a high enough bandwidth and data reliability to output 4 different screens in less than 1/60th of a second without problems? Of course the video chip can output plenty, the limiting factor here is the wireless bandwidth.

And if it was known that the system could output to four devices at once, why would Nintendo say they hadn't even tested two controllers on one system?

Adding "instead" changes the whole context of something that didn't say that. Eyefinity cards (even low end) can support multiple screen on much higher resolutions. So why is itthat one HD connection and four SD streams are all of a sudden an issue? And there is already tech available that can make the bandwidth a non-issue.

The last question doesn't have much merit considering that just because the chip will have that option that:

1. They are going to immediately try multiple screens in the amount of time they had between the first dev kit being complete and E3.

2. The first dev kit may not have even had the capability to support more than one at that time.

3. It wasn't relevant to tryout due to the intent of not selling extra controllers.

And on top of all that Nintendo has always had a history of adding things to their consoles that go unused so the only real question that should be asked is if we'll see games that exploit multiple controllers, not if Wii U can handle multiple controllers.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Interesting how the Vita alone can compete (and maybe win) both 3DS and Wii U.

Wii U controller with screen is made mainly because the japanese the market, with your lack of space and different game culture. But the Vita offers the same thing, but with the advantage that you can take it when leaving home.

Juniors...

What is the ratio of Juniors being banned to Juniors making it to regular?

 

[guek]

Hey, I made it ^_^

But gaf is kind of a cesspool of scum and idiocy. Kind of inevitable though since it's the biggest gaming board in town.

So realistically speaking, if xbox launched late next year or early 2013, how much farther paced can it really be if the wii U is carrying something along the lines of 1.5gb and a rv770 equivalent?

 

[Truth101]

What is the ratio of Juniors being banned to Juniors making it to regular?

I mean Burntpork made it to member....

 

[lordfroakie]

Hey, I made it ^_^

But gaf is kind of a cesspool of scum and idiocy. Kind of inevitable though since it's the biggest gaming board in town.

So realistically speaking, if xbox launched late next year or early 2013, how much farther paced can it really be if the wii U is carrying something along the lines of 1.5gb and a rv770 equivalent?

Why did you join Gaf then

 

[AzaK]

Juniors...

Can we leave the offensive remarks out? Just because someone is a junior doesn't mean they are automatically stupid and not worthy of listening to, regardless of what you think of the original statement that this guy made.

It seems to be a common theme here among some people to insult new members to the forum if they say something silly. If anything it proves your own immaturity and definitely doesn't foster a great community feeling.

 

[guek]

Why did you join Gaf then

because my old forum died a horrible horrible death :-(

 

[CubeHands]

What is the ratio of Juniors being banned to Juniors making it to regular?

Nowhere near the ratio of members with low self esteem?

 

[SolarPowered]

Hey, I made it ^_^

But gaf is kind of a cesspool of scum and idiocy. Kind of inevitable though since it's the biggest gaming board in town.

Damn, seems like an overreaction. GAF has come a very long way since the older days.

So realistically speaking, if xbox launched late next year or early 2013, how much farther paced can it really be if the wii U is carrying something along the lines of 1.5gb and a rv770 equivalent?

It shouldn't be far off in specs at all so long as Nintendo doesn't go cheap on us. Something with 1.5GB of RAM will most definitely be competitive. Competitive enough that the differences won't be apparent at all in my mind.

The games Nintendo could make with a high end 4000 series card and 1GB+(1.5GB is a dream) of RAM....

*drools*

 

[guek]

Damn, seems like an overreaction. GAF has come a very long way since the older days.

Perhaps. But it certainly feels like there's a new ill conceived dumbass thread started every day that isn't squashed instantly like it should be but rather met with mixed reactions of "no way" or "yeah that crazy insane idea does sound logical to my poorly developed cognitive mind."

 

[markot]

Interesting how the Vita alone can compete (and maybe win) both 3DS and Wii U.

Wii U controller with screen is made mainly because the japanese the market, with your lack of space and different game culture. But the Vita offers the same thing, but with the advantage that you can take it when leaving home.

Yeah, its like with the DS, why would people want a portable n64 when they could have the power of the ps2 in their pocket?

Its pretty obvious why the PSP was so dominant over the DS, and the huge library of legendary games proves this.

 

[dacuk]

Can we leave the offensive remarks out? Just because someone is a junior doesn't mean they are automatically stupid and not worthy of listening to, regardless of what you think of the original statement that this guy made.

It seems to be a common theme here among some people to insult new members to the forum if they say something silly. If anything it proves your own immaturity and definitely doesn't foster a great community feeling.

This

 

[guek]

stfu juniors

Spoiler

<3

 

[Zoramon089]

Can we leave the offensive remarks out? Just because someone is a junior doesn't mean they are automatically stupid and not worthy of listening to, regardless of what you think of the original statement that this guy made.

It seems to be a common theme here among some people to insult new members to the forum if they say something silly. If anything it proves your own immaturity and definitely doesn't foster a great community feeling.

People in communities don't call each other out when they say something foolish?

 

[shadyspace]

We all took our licks guys. There's a bit of a hazing process, it's not the end of the world. Take it in stride and you'll come out as proud full-fledged members on the other side.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

This

PLenty of gaffers call out stupid bullshit, juniors are no exception. They are just a bit more obvious because its an easy go to as a call out. If you get called out by multiple people, it should be obvious to you that your level of discussion is below gafs standards.

 

[Boss Doggie]

It's mostly due to Juniors expected to behave more accordingly and not spouting out shit, since they're expected to until they become members, at least.

FYI nothing offensive on my statement, just asking the ratio

 

[AzaK]

People in communities don't call each other out when they say something foolish?

Of course they do and I have no problem with that per-se and agree that the originating post was foolish, but just saying "juniors" because one person said something you disagree with is pretty naff IMO. I bet there are senior members here who are senior just because they have spent a long time on the board and I also bet there are juniors who have a huge amount of industry/life/gaming experience. Anyway didn't want to derail thread, let's get back on topic, it's just been annoying me to see people labelled this way.

Regarding Wii U vs Vita + PS3, as mentioned earlier isn't the Vita combo unable to maintain the bandwidth over WiFi as required by screen streaming at 60fps? Unless the PS3 was made with this in mind, aren't we going to have lag or at least compression artifacts? Anyone here know about this tech?

 

[JJConrad]

Can we leave the offensive remarks out? Just because someone is a junior doesn't mean they are automatically stupid and not worthy of listening to, regardless of what you think of the original statement that this guy made.

It seems to be a common theme here among some people to insult new members to the forum if they say something silly. If anything it proves your own immaturity and definitely doesn't foster a great community feeling.

Offensive? Really? You're not going to last long here if you find that offensive.

The guy didn't just say something silly, he made a non-sequitur, hit-&-run comment for the purpose of promoting an unrelated system. There isn't enough to his post to have discussion, nor has there been any attempt by him to clarify or begin one. It was nothing but an attempt to derail the thread into a systems war. Garbage like that only intensifies the fanboyancies we see around here and should be mocked.

This

Have you gone berserk? Can't you see that man is a ju?

 

[DECK'ARD]

Of course they do and I have no problem with that per-se and agree that the originating post was foolish, but just saying "juniors" because one person said something you disagree with is pretty naff IMO. I bet there are senior members here who are senior just because they have spent a long time on the board and I also bet there are juniors who have a huge amount of industry/life/gaming experience. Anyway didn't want to derail thread, let's get back on topic, it's just been annoying me to see people labelled this way.

Regarding Wii U vs Vita + PS3, as mentioned earlier isn't the Vita combo unable to maintain the bandwidth over WiFi as required by screen streaming at 60fps? Unless the PS3 was made with this in mind, aren't we going to have lag or at least compression artifacts? Anyone here know about this tech?

Vita/3DS as controllers would operate differently to the Wii U controller. They aren't dumb so you'd have a small downloadable client running on them instead of streaming.

Less versatile, but for a lot of examples like choosing plays/weapons you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. You could even do a second viewpoint, but I'm not sure anyone would go to that much trouble.

Wii U's method is a lot easier, although bandwidth/latency may keep it limited to one controller. Demonstrations of more than one is the main thing I want to see when the console resurfaces.

 

[JJConrad]

Vita/3DS as controllers would operate differently to the Wii U controller. They aren't dumb so you'd have a small downloadable client running on them instead of streaming.

Less versatile, but for a lot of examples like choosing plays/weapons you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. You could even do a second viewpoint, but I'm not sure anyone would go to that much trouble.

Wii U's method is a lot easier, although bandwidth/latency may keep it limited to one controller. Demonstrations of more than one is the main thing I want to see when the console resurfaces.

The biggest problem with it (Vita controller) will simply be support. We saw it with the GBA and PSP, the feature requires the overlap of two unique userbases. So the market is too hard to gauge, so few developers/publishers will view it as a investment-worthy feature. Even between two massively successful systems, the feature never really looked into.

 

[jump_button]

Interesting how the Vita alone can compete (and maybe win) both 3DS and Wii U.

Wii U controller with screen is made mainly because the japanese the market, with your lack of space and different game culture. But the Vita offers the same thing, but with the advantage that you can take it when leaving home.

yeah all you need is £300 or what ever for vita and a £300 PS3 vs Wii U lol

and come on really you know they a thing called games that Big N known for that you cant get anyway but from them

 

[DECK'ARD]

The biggest problem with it (Vita controller) will simply be support. We saw it with the GBA and PSP, the feature requires the overlap of two unique userbases. So the market is too hard to gauge, so few developers/publishers will view it as a investment-worthy feature.

Yeah it will be just a typical Sony bullet-point thing, spoiler tactic. Outside of 1st party I can't see it getting much support. Although it would be very easy to implement and I can see EA doing it for choosing sports plays and things. Wii U's controller as a standard though is obviously a completely different situation.

3DS as a controller is more interesting, especially as the add-on (and possible revision) mirrors the Wii U's controls. It may be their work-around if Wii U remains limited to one controller. You'd at least have sports games, item select in Mario Kart etc. covered then.

I'm expecting a change of focus when Wii U emerges again anyway, with less of a focus on the asymetrical bollocks.

 

[stilgar]

Perhaps. But it certainly feels like there's a new ill conceived dumbass thread started every day that isn't squashed instantly like it should be but rather met with mixed reactions of "no way" or "yeah that crazy insane idea does sound logical to my poorly developed cognitive mind."

Really, with the number of people browsing/posting anytime on this forum, I'd say it is Super-Awesome Self-Controlled. The lack of troll thread is shocking. Sure dumb posts are dumb, but you sound especially intolerant.

 

[Naked Prime]

I'd love to see a two player Clocktower for WiiU. So I can terrorize my friends as Scissorman.

 

[MDX]

On September 14, 2011, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 released in Japanese arcades. While fans waited patiently for 12 years to play TTT's successor, over the course of the next year or two they'll have even more Tekken titles to choose from: Street Fighter X Tekken, Tekken X Street Fighter, Tekken Prime 3D Edition, Tekken Hybrid, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 console ports, and Tekken Wii U are all in varying stages of development (It's even spread to iOS recently with Tekken Bowling). And Harada and his team, Tekken Project (the name for the Tekken development group) seem to be on top of it, as they attempt to bring a form of franchise to every platform.

So... about WiiU...

But there's still plenty of Tekken projects left to work on. A rough breakdown would be: "[There are] seven Tekken Project members on Tekken 3D Prime Edition with an outside company handling the tech," says Harada. "We're using about 15 of our core staff on the Tekken Hybrid Pack, and that just wrapped up pretty recently."

"And on Tag 2 the arcade version, although it's in arcades now, we're still working on some network features and other things, so about 25 on that. And the rest of the 60 are on Tekken X Street Fighter doing motion capture and other stuff."

What about Wii U? "[Laughs] For Wii U, at the moment, the core members aren't really assigned to that yet. We have a different group outside the Tekken Project within our company that works on advanced technology. So that section is currently evaluating the hardware and the specs, and what would be necessary to create a Tekken on [Wii U]. Once their evaluation and research is done, they'll kick it to us and we'll start laying out the specs for that. But we're not at that point yet."

Advanced technology, heh.

edit to add:
Does that mean the video we see here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LJmRsIrTZg

Is not from the WiiU game?


http://www.1up.com/features/namco-juggles-tekken-projects?pager.offset=2

 

[Boss Doggie]

And yeah, I laugh at people saying that "hurr PS3 + Vita can do it", since somehow they managed to forgot the price cost of both combined settings. But eh, that's off topic already.

 

[StevieP]

Interesting how the Vita alone can compete (and maybe win) both 3DS and Wii U.

Wii U controller with screen is made mainly because the japanese the market, with your lack of space and different game culture. But the Vita offers the same thing, but with the advantage that you can take it when leaving home.

And yeah, I laugh at people saying that "hurr PS3 + Vita can do it", since somehow they managed to forgot the price cost of both combined settings. But eh, that's off topic already.

And the latency associated with WiFi being unable to replicate whatever WiDi-like interface the WiiU is using to stream to its tablets. Neither the 3DS nor the Vita can interface with their big brother hardware like that.

That´s like saying a PC game on HIGH is not significantly better than on LOW. And this is the best Wii U scenario

When you see Epic talking about UE4 they for sure are not talking about Nintendo

UE"4" (3.9999997 or whatever it is) is built upon the same foundations as the current iteration of the engine, which runs on everything from the 6-year-old "HD" consoles to the Vita and iPad. And they will continue to run on hardware that supports programmable shaders. DX9+-era stuff, in other words. Last I read, WiiU fits right into that.

If you're talking about the visuals from the Samaritan demo used to showcase UE3.9999 then we've mentioned 5 million times already that none of the next generation consoles are going to deliver that level of detail, or anywhere close, for a variety of reasons.

 

[Zoramon089]

Does that mean the video we see here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LJmRsIrTZg

Is not from the WiiU game?


http://www.1up.com/features/namco-juggles-tekken-projects?pager.offset=2

People didn't realize that this was just a put together concept video?

 

[NeoGohan]

Ghost Trick for Wii U

Spoiler

that's what i want

 

[bgassassin]

People didn't realize that this was just a put together concept video?

Based on past discussion I'd say no. I'm not going to act like I did as I was more focused on the need for two Upads for the game.

 

[MDX]

WiiU

Last week, Activision-owned Vicarious Visions was linked to development for Nintendo's Wii U. It appears Vicarious Visions isn't the only Activision developer working on projects for a new console.


Treyarch appears set to bring Call of Duty to new platforms.
A job listing at Call of Duty studio Treyarch calls for a senior software engineer to join a team "bringing our hugely successful game to a new console." Though not named outright, Call of Duty has become the studio's signature series. Last year's Treyarch-developed Call of Duty: Black Ops sold around 25 million copies for the publisher through early August. The studio has not shipped a title outside of the shooter franchise since 2008, when it released both the James Bond-based Quantum of Solace and Spider-Man: Web of Shadows.

The job listing does little to shed additional light on the project, though the phrasing of bringing a specific game to a new console could suggest a port. The job description notes that the chosen candidate will "adapt graphics and other major systems in our engine to a new platform."

As for what the "new console" might be, there are a number of possibilities. At the 2011 Electronic Entertainment Expo, Activision pledged to support Nintendo's newest console, the Wii U. Beyond that, there are rumors the next Xbox could be unveiled at E3 2012, and a source claiming to be present at a "high level" Sony meeting pegged the PlayStation 4 as being readied for announcement or release in 18 months.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6338153/next-gen-call-of-duty-in-works-at-treyarch

Well, we know for sure WiiU is coming out next year.
We dont know about the other two. And this mentions ONE console or platform, not multiple, so safe to assume whatever they are working on is for the WiiU.

If its for the next CoD.
And the WiiU launches around Fall, next year, it looks to have a large line-up of third party games, be they ports or otherwise. Nintendo better have their online service up to par, or better than the HD twins, to steal the show next Xmas. I think most will forgive straight ports, with no graphic enhancements for launch games, just to see how fun it will be to play with the tablet controller. But the tablet controller will not make up for a shoddy online experience.

 

[Shanadeus]

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[AceBandage]

I've been following this thread quite closely while away from the forums and I'm just stunned.

You survived guys.

You survived.

Survived what?

 

[Indyana]

Survived what?

This thread?

 

[Gravijah]

THIS IS A TRIUMPH

haha get it portal reference