Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012

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Let's just all assume the worst, gives us a better chance to be pleasantly surprised.

For me, the "worst" is still pretty good. I'm expecting, at minimum, some weird amount of ram between 1 and 1.5gb, designed so at least part of the ram pool is lightning fast, a 2.5-3.0 ghz Power7 based tricore, absolutely bare minimum 16mb of EDRAM (i think lherre said something about this but I can't remember if he gave any specific numbers), and a GPU with the performance of a rv770LE.

I predict something a tad bit more powerful, but a machine of that caliber priced close to $299 would get me pretty excited.

edit: also, bgassassin, you predicted earlier that they'd have a single USB 3.0 port...was anything said about that? I think I remember something being said about USB 2.0 back around E3, but that might just be my brain making crap up



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I'm thinking/hoping for $349. Mostly because I think it will be much more feature rich if Nintendo is forced to release it at that point.

I wouldn't buy it at that price of course, but I do hope it's around there.
 
I'm expecting $349 with a $329 minimum. But that depends on how much of a loss they want to take up front.

For me, the "worst" is still pretty good. I'm expecting, at minimum, some weird amount of ram between 1 and 1.5gb, designed so at least part of the ram pool is lightning fast, a 2.5-3.0 ghz Power7 based tricore, absolutely bare minimum 16mb of EDRAM (i think lherre said something about this but I can't remember if he gave any specific numbers), and a GPU with the performance of a rv770LE.

I predict something a tad bit more powerful, but a machine of that caliber priced close to $299 would get me pretty excited.

edit: also, bgassassin, you predicted earlier that they'd have a single USB 3.0 port...was anything said about that? I think I remember something being said about USB 2.0 back around E3, but that might just be my brain making crap up




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Yeah they said 4-2.0 slots. But if they are providing the option of external HDDs, then the bandwidth provided by 3.0 would be much better. So that was more of a plausible hope, than a prediction.

Also the 16MB originated from the B3D article. Brain_stew said 32MB for the GPU.
 
Those stating prices over $249.99, I'm wondering how long you've been following the industry ;) Honestly while it's possible, I cannot see it launching a penny over $249.99. I'm going by history here.
 
Those stating prices over $249.99, I'm wondering how long you've been following the industry ;) Honestly while it's possible, I cannot see it launching a penny over $249.99. I'm going by history here.

CVG reports that Iwata – who has said he expects the Wii U to be priced at more than 20,000 yen in Japan ($250) – admitted of the console's price: "This is not going to be cheap."

That's why
 
http://www.howstuffworks.com/podcasts/techstuff.rss
http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/techstuff/id282795787

How stuff works' TechStuff podcast recently did a two part show on Nintendo 'The Story of Nintendo'...from all the way back from 1600s to present...

Seemed like a good thread to post it in considering Nintendo's uncertain future.
Just finished listening to this. It was really good up until right when they got to the Wii. Right when they started talking about "casuals" and "hardcore" gamers I had to turn it off. So fucking dumb. Ever heard of software selling hardware, guys? Did you realize that the Wii's barren output over the past year or two may have had an affect on its sales relative to its now competitively priced challengers? No, it's just because CASUAL GAMERS. So much doom and gloom without acknowledging Nintendo's sheer domination and influence on the market over the past 5 or 6 years.
 
US$349 is my call, unless Nintendo get the feeling the economy is still so far in the shitter that they have to do a US$299 just to get enough out there into people's homes. a la 3DS.
 
US$349 is my call, unless Nintendo get the feeling the economy is still so far in the shitter that they have to do a US$299 just to get enough out there into people's homes. a la 3DS.

I think they will go for that $299 and pack in a few cheap games (Catch Mii, etc) while selling Wii U Sports for full price with a WiiMote+. But they'll definitely not want to be forced into another early price cut. I think going above their usual $199-$249 for a console scares the shit out of them. Meanwhile, MS is going to be breathing down their necks if there's anything to that 2 console theory.
 
I dont see that any verified dev has posted here anything otherwise. This thread is full of nintendofans they can correct what they like.. Tri core CPU and 1GB are confirmed

Nothing needs to be posted here to counter a few vague comments you just mentioned. There are plenty of comments out there from devs, but you're only interested in a select few that back up your argument. Do yourself a favour and stop being ignorant.

There's nothing confirmed yet, but a 3 core CPU and a minimum of 1GB+ is all but confirmed. If you think that backs up your stance your wrong. Number of cores doesn't tell us how powerful the CPU is.
 
Nothing needs to be posted here to counter a few vague comments you just mentioned. There are plenty of comments out there from devs, but you're only interested in a select few that back up your argument. Do yourself a favour and stop being ignorant.

There's nothing confirmed yet, but a 3 core CPU and a minimum of 1GB+ is all but confirmed. If you think that backs up your stance your wrong. Number of cores doesn't tell us how powerful the CPU is.

I have just confirmed with my friends at AMD Markham (formerly ATI) that the Wii U will be 3 Power PC 603e cores with 1GB of Samsung NOR flash memory as ram. This will be paired with an Ati Mach64 LT.
 
His interpretation of the "confirmed" specs are as skewed as anybody else's. lherre has stated that it's a tri-core with at minimum 1gb or ram. Nothing about the ram amount is confirmed, despite what luckyman would like you to believe. Nothing about clock speeds has been confirmed. Nothing about the GPU has been confirmed, though I believe it's been heavily implied that a rv770LE (Radeon HD 4830 which has 640 SPUs. I think luckyman adamantly stated in another thread that the wii u gpu would have something around 480 at maximum) was at some point (or still is) used in the dev kits.

Actually he claimed it would be a downgraded RV730 at most (320SPU's)..
 
I have just confirmed with my friends at AMD Markham (formerly ATI) that the Wii U will be 3 Power PC 603e cores with 1GB of Samsung NOR flash memory as ram. This will be paired with an Ati Mach64 LT.

They told me 3 full Power7 cores at 4Ghz and a HD7990 with 128MB embedded 1T-Sram and 8GB GDDR5. They're lying to one of us, but which one?
 
I have just confirmed with my friends at AMD Markham (formerly ATI) that the Wii U will be 3 Power PC 603e cores..
Yes! I knew it! I knew thy console time would come, my liege!

.. with 1GB of Samsung NOR flash memory as ram.
*backs away from monitor.. goes to garage, tosses baseball bat on passanger's seat. starts the car and heads toward 407..*
 
This is what happens when you're bored and half alive after submitting a 16 page research paper you put together in one day with no sleep.

They told me 3 full Power7 cores at 4Ghz and a HD7990 with 128MB embedded 1T-Sram and 8GB GDDR5. They're lying to one of us, but which one?

Nitrogen cooling?
 
Can someone explain the thread title to me?
 
I have just confirmed with my friends at AMD Markham (formerly ATI) that the Wii U will be 3 Power PC 603e cores with 1GB of Samsung NOR flash memory as ram. This will be paired with an Ati Mach64 LT.

You bastard! Saw a bunch of numbers from StevieP and got excited... then cried a little. I'm tired.
 
I shared Reggie's bed last night and he told me Wii U is actually going to be a Dual-Core (another core reserved for other tasks) for practical purposes, and a HD3200, 512MB of DDR3 RAM and 1GB flash memory. But it's efficient!
 
So the other thread is talking about backwards compatibility. What are the chances of them using partial software emulation to get things done? I'm pretty sure it's no stranger to them considering (I believe) 3DS uses some software emulation for DS games, unless ARM code just happens to be cross compatible.

I guess part of my hopes they would upscale games to make them look nicer. But I'd think tsimply having an HDMI out will make Wii games better on TVs which hate component progressive scan. That said, I still wonder how it will spit out 480i titles.
 
They'll use whatever guarantees a near 100% success rate for BC.
Reggie said that games won't upscale, but who knows.
If they do use software emu for BC, they'll probably throw it in there as a "Why not? The PS2/PS3 did it." Besides, they pretty much did this for OoT/MM in the Collector's Edition and N64 Virtual Console games.
 
So the other thread is talking about backwards compatibility. What are the chances of them using partial software emulation to get things done? I'm pretty sure it's no stranger to them considering (I believe) 3DS uses some software emulation for DS games, unless ARM code just happens to be cross compatible.

I guess part of my hopes they would upscale games to make them look nicer. But I'd think tsimply having an HDMI out will make Wii games better on TVs which hate component progressive scan. That said, I still wonder how it will spit out 480i titles.

I assume software emulation, but I think they'll just output the Wii stuff at 480p. So don't sell that plasma tv i guess (or in my case, don't change plans in getting one eventually).
 
If they do use software emu for BC, they'll probably throw it in there as a "Why not? The PS2/PS3 did it." Besides, they pretty much did this for OoT/MM in the Collector's Edition and N64 Virtual Console games.

That's completely different because they weren't trying for 100% BC in either of those situations.
 
I saw for the first time today an extended demonstration of Killer Freaks. I have to say, using the gyroscope to look around and aim seemed extremely natural and a fun alternate control scheme.

It made me wonder about the gyro in the Wii U controller. Is it basically Motion+ inside or is it something more advanced? More advanced than Move? If it's that good, then perhaps the seemingly odd omission of an IR pointer makes more sense...
 
I saw for the first time today an extended demonstration of Killer Freaks. I have to say, using the gyroscope to look around and aim seemed extremely natural and a fun alternate control scheme.

It made me wonder about the gyro in the Wii U controller. Is it basically Motion+ inside or is it something more advanced? More advanced than Move? If it's that good, then perhaps the seemingly odd omission of an IR pointer makes more sense...

It's better than Motion+, but not leaps and bounds (simply because... it can't be).
It's suppose to be better than the motion sensing in the 3DS, which already works really well.
I dunno about fully replacing IR for aiming, though.
 
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