Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012

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The problem I have with Patcher is that because of his minor celebrity he now makes statements/predictions like a video game fan or Neogaf poster instead of as a market analyst. His phrasing and word choice is out of sync with what you expect from a professional analyst.

Because he's not a professional analyst, he's a douche driving a porsche making up numbers on the spot like ioi. I had a confrontation with the man on this very board, where I said it was important for him to at least use the right sales numbers. He disagreed, saying that his predictions didn't have to be based on facts like that.
 
Haha.

I wouldn't mind a large scale online multiplayer in the next 'Prime, similar to Hunters but with a bit of a Halo touch to things.

Don't kill me for saying that
 
[Nintex];34052638 said:
Because he's not a professional analyst, he's a douche driving a porsche making up numbers on the spot like ioi. I had a confrontation with the man on this very board, where I said it was important for him to at least use the right sales numbers. He disagreed, saying that his predictions didn't have to be based on facts like that.

Wait a minute, Patcher is on gaf?
 
It's pretty obvious that pachter doesn't know jack shit...and I mean the guy really has no insights on what's coming down the road. He's not privy to inside information, though he carries himself in such a way to imply otherwise.
 
Let's all hope Patcher is completely wrong about the Wii U. Although, he might not be too far off as far as third party support goes, if you look at the Wii. Then again..... The Wii not getting much third party support was most likely just due to it not being HD and the vast majority of it's users not being interested in "core" tittles.
 
You can check Twilight Princess credits for example, I got impressed for how short it was, compared to walls and walls of text displayed in CoD games.
Big publishers put tons of people in their credits that had literally nothing to do with the game. They'll also hire a company to do localization, and everyone in that company will be added to the credits. Then there'll be an external testing team, they'll get credits too. Nintendo doesn't do that.
 
Let's all hope Patcher is completely wrong about the Wii U. Although, he might not be too far off as far as third party support goes, if you look at the Wii. Then again..... The wii not getting third party support was most likely just due to the Wii not being HD and the vast majority of it's users not being interested in "core" tittles.

I don't think it's realistically possible for third party support to be worse than it was with the Wii. From what little we've heard, porting is almost supernaturally easy, especially since the controller is much more similar than in the last generation (edit: to the controllers on competing systems, I mean).
 
I don't think it's realistically possible for third party support to be worse than it was with the Wii. From what little we've heard, porting is almost supernaturally easy, especially since the controller is much more similar than in the last generation (edit: to the controllers on competing systems, I mean).
Ports alone doesn't mean much. Afterall, why buy a new console to play something that can be played on a console you already own?

I'm more worried about a GCN repeat than a Wii repeat.
 
Surprisingly, from what one can find skimming the usual places, the biggest Wii U supporter next to Ubisoft seems to be THQ. I see nothing from EA, Take 2/ Rockstar or Bethesda at this point. Nothing from EA seems exceptionally weird after last E3 and company statements over the last few months, but maybe they're simply unusually secretive.
 
Surprisingly, from what one can find skimming the usual places, the biggest Wii U supporter next to Ubisoft seems to be THQ. I see nothing from EA, Take 2/ Rockstar or Bethesda at this point. Nothing from EA seems exceptionally weird after last E3 and company statements over the last few months, but maybe they're simply unusually secretive.

We probably won't see anything at launch from most of them.
 
I actually got a rather curt PM from Patcher once.
I found it amusing.

Surprisingly, from what one can find skimming the usual places, the biggest Wii U supporter next to Ubisoft seems to be THQ. I see nothing from EA, Take 2/ Rockstar or Bethesda at this point. Nothing from EA seems exceptionally weird after last E3 and company statements over the last few months, but maybe they're simply unusually secretive.



Of course EA has a lot planned for the Wii U, but Nintendo isn't really letting anyone talk about things right now.
I mean, hell, even games we KNOW are coming to the system we don't hear about (Like the Arkahm City devs can't talk about any extra features and such).
 
Surprisingly, from what one can find skimming the usual places, the biggest Wii U supporter next to Ubisoft seems to be THQ. I see nothing from EA, Take 2/ Rockstar or Bethesda at this point. Nothing from EA seems exceptionally weird after last E3 and company statements over the last few months, but maybe they're simply unusually secretive.

Nintendo ninjas!!!

Plus [and more likely, I expect] EA are probably still trying to keep Nintendo sweet so they will hand over the online keys to them. I have my fingers crossed that they are also consulting with Valve and will ultimately tell EA to sod off. An online service that is dominated by EA would be a disaster for the customer I fear.
 
Nintendo ninjas!!!

Plus [and more likely, I expect] EA are probably still trying to keep Nintendo sweet so they will hand over the online keys to them. I have my fingers crossed that they are also consulting with Valve and will ultimately tell EA to sod off. An online service that is dominated by EA would be a disaster for the customer I fear.
It's not going to happen.
Nintendo will likely allow for an Origin like service on the Wii U.
However, they will never (repeat) NEVER, allow a third party to completely run their service from head to toe.
 
Surprisingly, from what one can find skimming the usual places, the biggest Wii U supporter next to Ubisoft seems to be THQ. I see nothing from EA, Take 2/ Rockstar or Bethesda at this point. Nothing from EA seems exceptionally weird after last E3 and company statements over the last few months, but maybe they're simply unusually secretive.

Epic president mike capps is pretty pro wii u
 
Epic president mike capps is pretty pro wii u
Yes, and they have the engine up and running for more than half a year now, but that doesn't mean they have an actual game in the works. I doubt it, honestly. But on the other hand, it's always good to have a game on a platform if you're trying to sell an engine for that platform. That's something Crytek seems to realize, and the main reason I expect a lot from their Wii U efforts. They need to demonstrate superiority to entice potential licensees after all.
 
I'm going to predict Pachter's next prediction "Nintendo needs to release Wii-U 2 Super HD to stay competitive" He'll say it every year until the Wii-U's successor is announced.
 
I'm going to predict Pachter's next prediction "Nintendo needs to release Wii-U 2 Super HD to stay competitive" He'll say it every year until the Wii-U's successor is announced.
Nope. Four years in, he'll claim that PS4 is actually Wii U 2 Super HD. Just like he recently claimed PS3 was the mysterious "Wii HD" he was always talking about.
 
Developers will be very confused and possibly unable to port to a machine that has all of the standard features of a controller just because it has an extra feature that developers could ignore. That's some analysis right there.

Nope. Four years in, he'll claim that PS4 is actually Wii U 2 Super HD. Just like he recently claimed PS3 was the mysterious "Wii HD" he was always talking about.

The Move is reason the Wii died, don't you know?
 
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URL?
Now you can't make a stupid Link joke!
He said this in an episode of GT Bonus Round a while ago. I thought he was joking, but then he started reasoning, so I'm not sure anymore. But I believe he thought Move would be successful back then, so yeah...


Developers will be very confused and possibly unable to port to a machine that has all of the standard features of a controller just because it has an extra feature that developers could ignore. That's some analysis right there.
Pretty much. Even though developers were talking about this in depth, with Vigil stating they had the whole game displaying on the controller within minutes, then came to the conclusion that this feature was as cool as it was useless. Everyone said putting stuff already in the game like maps or inventories on the tablet is incredibly easy to do. It's just that most devs think they could do a lot more, and I personally consider that very encouraging. Devs can even do a quick-and-dirty port while still offering something unique, something of value. That simply wasn't possible on Wii.
 
It's not going to happen.
Nintendo will likely allow for an Origin like service on the Wii U.
However, they will never (repeat) NEVER, allow a third party to completely run their service from head to toe.

I know but there will still be this nagging fear until we know for sure :(. I don't use Origin but given the horror stories from some of those who have I certainly have no desire to do so! In fact, I have only ever played a handful of EA games in the hundreds of video games I have played and in each case they may have initially pleased me but quickly turned me off. Ultimately they felt like they were games whose design decisions were made by focus group loving bean counters rather than creative types with an individual personality. Some people might like that approach [like some people like homogenised music and/or movies] but I found it aesthetically repulsive.

tl;dr EA driven Wii U online? no wai!!11!!!

I'm going to predict Pachter's next prediction "Nintendo needs to release Wii-U 2 Super HD to stay competitive" He'll say it every year until the Wii-U's successor is announced.

Thanks. I had just about banished those years of stupid pronouncements from my memory! :(
 
[Nintex];34052638 said:
Because he's not a professional analyst, he's a douche driving a porsche making up numbers on the spot like ioi. I had a confrontation with the man on this very board, where I said it was important for him to at least use the right sales numbers. He disagreed, saying that his predictions didn't have to be based on facts like that.

Facts just confuse the issues, y'know?
 
"Nintendo has to simply stop living in the past in 2012,"

Nintendo is living in the past, but Sony and MS adopted motion controls because Nintendo did. I mean, this doesn't even make sense. On it's face Nintendo has consistently been a trend setter in the industry. If you want to talk to a company living in the past talk to Sony about their controller.
 
Nintendo is living in the past, but Sony and MS adopted motion controls because Nintendo did. I mean, this doesn't even make sense. On it's face Nintendo has consistently been a trend setter in the industry. If you want to talk to a company living in the past talk to Sony about their controller.

Well, obviously, Nintendo doesn't know what it's doing.
I mean, they only had two insanely successful systems last generation.
 
Nintendo is living in the past, but Sony and MS adopted motion controls because Nintendo did. I mean, this doesn't even make sense. On it's face Nintendo has consistently been a trend setter in the industry. If you want to talk to a company living in the past talk to Sony about their controller.
Yep, I predict that the PS4 will have an innovative new controller.
It's called...
The Dualshock 4!
Now with an all-new completely innovative and not at all shoehorned touchscreen!
 
Yep, I predict that the PS4 will have an innovative new controller.
It's called...
The Dualshock 4!
Now with an all-new completely innovative and not at all shoehorned touchscreen!
I doubt it'll have a screen, but who knows eh?

Speaking of the DualShock I really hope they redesign it.
 
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