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brotkasten said:
It really doesn't make sense when you think about it. How can Mango already be RTM, when IE9 Mobile is only code complete, with the team still working on performance optimizations.
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IE isn't part of the OS.
 
Raistlin said:
Unless they aren't handling it like windows
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Haven't they stated that IE9 is one of the main features of Mango? Wouldn't make sense to RTM without it. They can't push updates to WP handsets like they can with PCs and Windows Update.
 
giga said:
Looks like they changed the article to say that the SDK will be beta but the OS will be RTM. Doesn't make sense…
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What that says to me...

Mango is 7.1/7.2/7.3/7.x etc. and the "next" version of WP7 is 7.5 probably going to be announced tomorrow. I would imagine if Microsoft can push an update schedule as fast as they are with Mango, they will best Android and iOS in that regard. I'm guessing SDK for 7.5 has things that Mango doesn't need in order to be called RTM or gold release.
 
Pctx said:
What that says to me...

Mango is 7.1/7.2/7.3/7.x etc. and the "next" version of WP7 is 7.5 probably going to be announced tomorrow. I would imagine if Microsoft can push an update schedule as fast as they are with Mango, they will best Android and iOS in that regard. I'm guessing SDK for 7.5 has things that Mango doesn't need in order to be called RTM or gold release.
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Mmmm…nope.
 
giga said:
Haven't they stated that IE9 is one of the main features of Mango? Wouldn't make sense to RTM without it. They can't push updates to WP handsets like they can with PCs and Windows Update.
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While they can't push them directly, it's a separate application.

Who's to say it won't be sent to the manufacturers before Mango is to be released? I'm not saying I even believe the news that Mango is ready for RTM ... I'm just don't understand why IE9 would need to be with what's being sent to manufacturers?

This would allow the phone companies to start testing the OS.
 
MS_nerd on twitter is saying 3 "new" hardware partners will be announced and all of the Mango launch phones will come with front facing cameras
 
Raistlin said:
While they can't push them directly, it's a separate application.

Who's to say it won't be sent to the manufacturers before Mango is to be released? I'm not saying I even believe the news that Mango is ready for RTM ... I'm just don't understand why IE9 would need to be with what's being sent to manufacturers?

This would allow the phone companies to start testing the OS.
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Internet explorer is a separate application, but the trident engine isn't. It's a core part of the OS and SDK.
 
PG2G said:
MS_nerd on twitter is saying 3 "new" hardware partners will be announced and all of the Mango launch phones will come with front facing cameras
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Well, one of the rumor is Dell, I don't know who could the other 2 "new" OEM would be. Perhaps ASUS and Nokia (which is technically "new")?
 
All the features haven't been released and already Mango is almost everything I want. Front facing camera, a killer browser, no silly app limitations in terms of accessing cameras, sockets, etc. plus multi tasking and the best OS in the business. They need to add flash, but ms needs to have something for us to complain about, I guess.
 
Few more hours right? Though I just bought a Samsung Focus like a week ago, I'm interested in the 2nd generation of hardware.

Come this fall, there will be some nice hardware with Galaxy 2, iPhone 5, 2nd gen WP7 phones. Lets see.
 
VanMardigan said:
All the features haven't been released and already Mango is almost everything I want. Front facing camera, a killer browser, no silly app limitations in terms of accessing cameras, sockets, etc. plus multi tasking and the best OS in the business. They need to add flash, but ms needs to have something for us to complain about, I guess.
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How well does flash run on the N1?
 
VanMardigan said:
All the features haven't been released and already Mango is almost everything I want. Front facing camera, a killer browser, no silly app limitations in terms of accessing cameras, sockets, etc. plus multi tasking and the best OS in the business. They need to add flash, but ms needs to have something for us to complain about, I guess.
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I think HTML5 is alot more usefull than flash looking into the future, we soon probably don't even need flash anymore.
 
Do we know who's gonna be live blogging? I'm hoping the ThisIsMyNext crew does a live blog, but somehow I doubt I get my wish.

My body is ready!
 
Earl Cazone said:
Is there a livestream for the event.
and did i get this right, the event starts in an hour?
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It starts in two hours, 10 AM EST.

The live stream isn't up yet, but you'll find it here:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/liveevent.aspx

In case you can't watch it, many will live blog it.
http://live.thisismynext.com/Event/Microsofts_Windows_Phone_Mango_preview_event
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/...one-vip-preview-event/?sort=newest&refresh=60
http://www.neowin.net/news/were-covering-the-windows-phone-mango-launch-twice
 
I hope account switching gets announced. (I want to be able to have acocunt with one Live id and numbers and another one with different id's and numbers; like you can kind of do on xbox. esp. if they are putting msn into the OS).

Use ms points to buy apps. Stream videos from Zune off phone.
 
besiktas1 said:
I hope account switching gets announced. (I want to be able to have acocunt with one Live id and numbers and another one with different id's and numbers; like you can kind of do on xbox. esp. if they are putting msn into the OS).

Use ms points to buy apps. Stream videos from Zune off phone.
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You can't just switch accounts, the Live ID is tied to your device.
 
brotkasten said:
How well does flash run on the N1?
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Very smooth with the latest version of flash. I remember how choppy and crappy it was at times before I switched away from android, but when I started using my N1 again, they had flash 10 and adobe has done a lot to improve performance. And considering that this is the same chipset as in wp7 devices, I think its silly that we won't even have the option.

Its one of those features that you don't realize how useful it its until you use it. I've used it at least as much as copy/paste.
 
Oh, wow. I wonder if they will have another update for Fall as well. This is great news. Now the question is if Verizon will be getting any of the new hotness.
 
That summer thing while awesome may just mean for developers.... which means we would all be rooting our phones again. ;)

Hopefully the final release would be summer..... it would be a very nice surprise.

With that said I don't see any surprise "new features" on that list (that we didn't know about already). Hopefully the front facing camera rumor will pan out and some of the other stuff.
 
JaggedSac said:
Oh, wow. I wonder if they will have another update for Fall as well. This is great news. Now the question is if Verizon will be getting any of the new hotness.
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PR:

REDMOND, Wash. — May 24, 2011 — Microsoft Corp. today previewed the next major release of Windows Phone, code-named “Mango,” through a series of media events around the world. “Mango” will deliver more than 500 new features to push the boundaries of the smartphone experience around communications, apps and the Internet. The “Mango” release will be available for free to Windows Phone 7 customers and is scheduled to ship on new phones beginning this fall. More details on device update timing will be provided closer to availability. Windows Phone will also add support for additional languages, expand access to apps by launching Windows Phone Marketplace in new countries, and partner with new OEMs to enable expansion to new markets.*

“Seven months ago we started our mission to make smartphones smarter and easier for people to do more,” said Andy Lees, president of the Mobile Communications Business at Microsoft. “With ‘Mango,’ Windows Phone takes a major step forward in redefining how people communicate and use apps and the Internet, giving you better results with less effort.”

Communications: Easier to Connect and Share

The smartphone experience can be complicated by a sea of disconnected apps and accounts as people attempt to keep pace with all the ways they communicate — from calls, texts, email and instant messages (IM) to status updates, Tweets, check-ins, photo posting and tagging. To help people stay on top of that growing complexity, the “Mango” release organizes information around the person or group people want to interact with, not the app they have to use.

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Threads. Switch between text, Facebook chat and Windows Live Messenger within the same conversation.
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Groups. Group contacts into personalized Live Tiles to see the latest status updates right from the Start Screen and quickly send a text, email or IM to the whole group.
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Deeper social network integration. Twitter and LinkedIn feeds are now integrated into contact cards, and “Mango” includes built-in Facebook check-ins and new face detection software that makes it easier to quickly tag photos and post to the Web.
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Linked inbox. See multiple email accounts in one linked inbox. Conversations are organized to make it easy to stay on top of the latest mail.
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Hands-free messaging. Built-in voice-to-text and text-to-voice support enables hands-free texting or chatting.
A Smarter Approach to Apps

Windows Phone will challenge the way people think about apps. Today their usefulness is measured by what can be done within the app, but Microsoft sees the promise of apps in how they can be integrated directly into the core experiences of the phone. In addition to making it easy to get timely notifications and updates from apps right from the Start Screen, the “Mango” release also will surface apps as part of search results and within Windows Phone Hubs. As a result, a useful app is more likely to be right there when needed.

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App Connect. By connecting apps to search results and deepening their integration with Windows Phone Hubs, including Music and Video and Pictures, “Mango” allows apps to be surfaced when and where they make sense.
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Improved Live Tiles. Get real-time information from apps without having to open them. Live Tiles can be more dynamic and hold more information.
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Multitasking. Quickly switch between apps in use and allow apps to run in the background, helping to preserve battery life and performance.
Taking the Internet Beyond the Browser

In addition to including Internet Explorer, the “Mango” release will connect the power of the Web to the unique capabilities of Windows Phones, such as location awareness, camera and access to apps, to present a way of viewing the Web that is more localized, actionable and relevant.

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Internet Explorer 9. A browser based on the powerful Internet Explorer 9 and including support for HTML5 and full hardware acceleration.
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Local Scout. Provides hyperlocal search results and recommends nearby restaurants, shopping and activities in an easy-to-use guide.
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Bing on Windows Phone. More ways to search the Web, including Bing Vision, Music Search and Voice so it’s easy to discover and decide.
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Quick Cards. When searching for a product, movie, event or place, see a quick summary of relevant information, including related apps.
Strengthening the Ecosystem

The Windows Phone ecosystem has grown steadily since Windows Phone 7 first launched in October, with more than 17,000 apps currently available on Windows Phone Marketplace and Windows Phone handsets available from a range of partners worldwide, and Microsoft’s recently announced partnership with Nokia. “Mango” will further expand and strengthen the Windows Phone ecosystem through new partnerships with Acer Inc., Fujitsu Ltd. and ZTE Corp., which today announced plans to deliver new Windows Phone devices in markets around the world. Furthermore, Microsoft announced it will support additional languages, including Brazilian Portuguese, Simplified and Traditional Chinese, Czech, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, Greek, Hungarian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, and Swedish, and will greatly expand the list of countries where consumers have access to apps via Windows Phone Marketplace. As well, a beta release of the free Windows Phone Developer tools, which will be used to create the next generation of “Mango” apps and games, will be posted for public download to Microsoft’s website within 24 hours of today’s events. More information about what “Mango” means for developers, the tools and a link to the public download page is available at http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...er-news-beta-mango-tools-available-today.aspx.
Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq “MSFT”) is the worldwide leader in software, services and solutions that help people and businesses realize their full potential.
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