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trinest said:
I've heard no reports about the Mozart having the same issues the Trophy had and both mine and my brothers are as smooth as all hell.
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Cool. Now i just have to find some money and wait for it to come out in europe *sigh*
 
Fjolle said:
Cool. Now i just have to find some money and wait for it to come out in europe *sigh*
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At least you guys will have several options. Us in the States have shit for selection and none of which really scream buy me for me at the moment. I will probably go with Focus, even if the Samsung probably have the cheapest and plastic feels (because it's plastic) feel of all the three.
 
hmm seems like buymobilephones has problems getting stock on it's phones not just the Omnia 7. My cousin who bought a desire HD called them today and got a deal with it responce too regarding them not sending out his phone annd they don't know when he'll get it...
 
4 days away and my local AT&T store still doesn't know anything. If they don't have the phones in store by now when are they coming?

They did promise that I could keep my unlimited plan from back when I got the iPhone 3G. (which managed to slow to Hal it's original speed with each "update")
 
kazinova said:
4 days away and my local AT&T store still doesn't know anything. If they don't have the phones in store by now when are they coming?

They did promise that I could keep my unlimited plan from back when I got the iPhone 3G. (which managed to slow to Hal it's original speed with each "update")
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It was the same situation in the UK prior to (and after) the launch. Many stores had no idea about the phones and the vast majority had no stock at all. Many of the phone companies didn't have the phones on their websites for days after the launch too and some of the phones have only just started coming into stock (Omnia 7).

Very messy stuff, thought microsoft would be on top of everything but obviously not.
 
Cj70 said:
It was the same situation in the UK prior to (and after) the launch. Many stores had no idea about the phones and the vast majority had no stock at all. Many of the phone companies didn't have the phones on their websites for days after the launch too and some of the phones have only just started coming into stock (Omnia 7).

Very messy stuff, thought microsoft would be on top of everything but obviously not.
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I'd blame the carriers, they just don't care about these things. That said, Microsoft really should be pushing it through other retail sources as well.
 
Microsoft needs to make their own god damn branded phone and have it at every carrier. Fuck Samsung, HTC and all the others in their buttholes.

They all have google in their pockets, so why does it matter that they try to successfully introduce WP7 when they are already making bank. It seems like they are just giving these half-assed "I guess we owe you one Microsoft.." offerings to us.

Will the phone take off? I was optimistic, but no one is going to help Microsoft these days but Microsoft. Fucking Ballmer and his fat shiny head.
 
Jewbacca said:
It seems like they are just giving these half-assed "I guess we owe you one Microsoft.." offerings to us.

Will the phone take off? I was optimistic, but no one is going to help Microsoft these days but Microsoft. Fucking Ballmer and his fat shiny head.
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I'm sure if Samsung and HTC could, they would just reuse the internals of phones like the Galaxy S, the G2, or the Desire HD. I don't think there's anyone to blame here but Microsoft.
 
Cj70 said:
It was the same situation in the UK prior to (and after) the launch. Many stores had no idea about the phones and the vast majority had no stock at all. Many of the phone companies didn't have the phones on their websites for days after the launch too and some of the phones have only just started coming into stock (Omnia 7).

Very messy stuff, thought microsoft would be on top of everything but obviously not.
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In France Orange seems to be the "partner carrier", though SFR seems to finally have gotten it's shit together. However in stores I've only seen the Optimus 7 (no idea about SFR stores). Bouygues (the third carrier) has totally dropped the ball, nothing whatsoever on the site.

I've seen the Orange WP7 ad a few times on TV, and in their November catalog the phones are advertised all over the place. The 7 Mozart is the "phone of the month", with the Omnia 7 and the Optimus 7 second and third, in front of the Torch, the Galaxy S, the N8, the X10, and the Optimus One rounding out the Top 8.

The main problem is the lack of phones in the stores. Which is the most important part :lol
 
PG2G said:
I'm sure if Samsung and HTC could, they would just reuse the internals of phones like the Galaxy S, the G2, or the Desire HD. I don't think there's anyone to blame here but Microsoft.
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more like just ballmer. i mean look at the windows 7 phone os its not bad considering the time frame they had and the fact that they had to scrap windows mobile and start over. also in the world filled with icons its nice to see something different.
 
Pctx said:
Should be fixed by gen 2 w/ the card slot easily accessible. I just think their platform was developed enough to even think about using the microSD card slots for anything.
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As I understand it, MS only allowed this functionality at the behest of the carriers. i would not expect them to start putting slots externally. They want a a single file system and having an SD card easily removable will cause problems.
 
shantyman said:
As I understand it, MS only allowed this functionality at the behest of the carriers. i would not expect them to start putting slots externally. They want a a single file system and having an SD card easily removable will cause problems.
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Is Microsoft's position on SD cards FUD? I'm looking for a review of Andrioid phones that use SD cards for apps so I can see if any problems with extreme speed drops were discovered...
 
Charred Greyface said:
Is Microsoft's position on SD cards FUD? I'm looking for a review of Andrioid phones that use SD cards for apps so I can see if any problems with extreme speed drops were discovered...
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I don't think Microsoft's position is FUD..

Give this article a read..

http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918



There are substantial differences between microSD cards, possibly even in the same labeled lot number..
 
I didn't expect that.
It’s no surprise to learn that Android may see the biggest growth next year, but it’s nice to have actual numbers from developers. 29 percent of developers said they would bring new apps to Android next year, while Windows Phone 7 and the iPad tied, drawing 20 percent of developer interest each.
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App developers say their top new platforms for 2011 will be Android, Windows Phone 7, and iPad

AT&T is definitely the premier carrier for WP7 in the US.
Here’s one more one more proof that the stock is probably going to be low next week. According to AT&T’s Customer Care on twitter the company will only sell Windows Phone 7 devices on a first come first serve basis next Monday. I initially heard that only the Samsung Focus will be available but Golf1052 commented yesterday that his local AT&T store will also have the HTC 7 Surround in stock. Hopefully this turns out to be true.
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AT&T is not taking pre-orders for Windows Phone 7 phones
 
http://wp7gamers.blogspot.com/2010/11/top-10-xbla-ig-games-i-want-on-wp7_04.html

Number 4!

Top 10: XBLA & IG games I want on wp7
Another day another game I want ported to the Windows Phone 7. We know more PopCap games are on the way (read the full interview here) so here's hoping this one is next!

Number 4: Peggle





Basically, what is it?
Shoot a ball down and try to hit as many pegs as possible. Clear the orange pegs before you run out of balls and you pass the level. Timing is essential and there is a moving barrel (?) that if you get your ball in it you get an extra ball. Later levels add different characters each with there special abilities, for example, multiball.

Why do I want it?
Anybody who has tried Peggle (yes I'm making this grand statement) loves it. It has everything you need to make a good game. Fun factor, skill and some luck to add to the excitement.

How could it be bad?
Well it's been ported to iDevices and is great, well it's been ported to just about everything and still it is great. So had can that make it bad? It can't. I'm just making that statement so you know it how well it translates to all different platforms and I didn't want to leave this bit blank :)


Watch the trailer and see why I want it.
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http://wp7gamers.blogspot.com/2010/11/platformance-now-available-in-zune.html

Platformance Ported to wp7!

My thumbs are itching to play this. For those who don't know Platformance was a really hard, and I mean really hard platform game on the Xbox Indie channel. It was however on of the better Indie games, and now Windows Phone 7 gamers have a chance to play it on the john. Everything is the same as it's bigger brother but it controls with a virtual stick. It looks great, check out the video demo after the jump.
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Eariler today we saw a tweet from Daniel Egan announcing that the Windows Phone 7 Marketplace is now open to all registered developers. Previously, they were only accepting submissions from about 2000 developers who applied for early approval. The idea was to keep it managed for a while to make sure the app approval and update process would run smoothly. It's a good thing they did, too because as early-adopters, we noticed a few bugs with updates to things like the HTC Hub apps. Hopefully all of that is fixed now and the Marketplace app submissions can proceed full speed!

What does this mean for the rate at which we'll see new apps appearing in the Marketplace? During the testing phase, we saw about a hundred new apps per workday. Now that the system is presumably automated, we expect to see a higher rate of app approval. How many new apps do you think will start appearing per day now that the Marketplace is ready for everybody?

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/full-speed-ahead-windows-phone-marketplace
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Earl Cazone said:
Do we know, when turn-by-turn will be available for this?
especially in europe, since i think the winmo 6.5 version is US only
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I have to tell you that is one thing that Android has that kicks so much ass. I LOVE their turn by turn. I hope they make something like this with Bing.
 
outsidah said:
I have to tell you that is one thing that Android has that kicks so much ass. I LOVE their turn by turn. I hope they make something like this with Bing.
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maps navigation is the shit, i love it.
 
Well, got a HTC Mozart.

Not the prettiest phone ever.

What's the best of the XBL games?
 
user_nat said:
Well, got a HTC Mozart.

Not the prettiest phone ever.

What's the best of the XBL games?
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Haven't had a chance to play anything yet, but guessing you can't go wrong with Hexic, Uno and Bejeweled.
 
All XBL games are required to have demos, so just download some and see what you like.
 
I run some code every once in a while to harvest game box arts.

I'm looking to add Windows Phone 7 to my list;

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Using the phone, can you guys find any copies of the game icons that are higher resolution than this, or is this the best that there is? Are there any marketplace icons for non-Live games?

(They also have these neat high resolution banners): Banner
 
So Dell might be not selling the Venue Pro through TMobile, but they're going to aggressively support and market it it seems. Looks like they're going to war with RIM's Blackberry.

In a rather dramatic move, Dell has announced next week it will start moving all 25,000 of its employees away from Blackberries and onto their own smartphones, mainly the Dell Venue Pro.
The company had apparently been working for some time with Microsoft planning the move, expects to save 25% of their mobile communication costs by doing so, mainly by getting rid of RIM’s expensive servers.
Soon after Dell is planning to take its campaign on the road, aggressively marketing their mobile hardware and services to other companies.
"Clearly in this decision we are competing with RIM, because we’re kicking them out," the computer maker’s chief financial officer, Brian Gladden, said in an interview.
"We actually had a conversation last night around creating a site on eBay where we can actually sell these BlackBerry devices" that employees return, Mr. Gladden said.
In many ways the move was unexpected, as Microsoft’s new OS focuses mainly on consumers.
Paul Bryan, Microsoft’s senior director for product management for Windows Phone 7, said "We want our phones to be appealing to individuals, and people have needs that span personal and work,"
RIM, who with falling market share has been looking increasingly vulnerable, was unavailable to comment.
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If they take this kind of marketing on the road, I can see it being successful for Dell. Especially if Dell sells the Venue Pro through their retail partners.
 
God this launch is a cluster fuck and a half. EU people can't even get fucking phones, US carriers seem clueless on wtf is going down, AT&T are being their normal bitch selves unless it's Apple related with no preorders, and MS just seems to be like fuck it everything will just sort it self out over the next few months.

*SIGH*.....
 
The Abominable Snowman said:
So Dell might be not selling the Venue Pro through TMobile, but they're going to aggressively support and market it it seems. Looks like they're going to war with RIM's Blackberry.



If they take this kind of marketing on the road, I can see it being successful for Dell. Especially if Dell sells the Venue Pro through their retail partners.
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damn you dell. i want my venue pro. i got my cash in hand, take it. or gimme a job, anything to get that phone.
 
Brettison said:
God this launch is a cluster fuck and a half. EU people can't even get fucking phones, US carriers seem clueless on wtf is going down, AT&T are being their normal bitch selves unless it's Apple related with no preorders, and MS just seems to be like fuck it everything will just sort it self out over the next few months.

*SIGH*.....
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MS marketing seems to be focusing on Kinect rather than this phone series sadly.
 
claviertekky said:
MS marketing seems to be focusing on Kinect rather than this phone series sadly.
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i've seen a lot of WP7 advertisements (mainly from watching the WS). Haven't seen any Kinect ads though.
 
Same here.
Ton of WP7 ads. Have only ever seen 1 Kinect ad.
That was tonight at least for a few hours on primetime.
 
To be fair I don't watch much tv outside of football on the weekend... and the few shows I do watch I've missed and just hulued so I can't comment on that...

Launch still appears to be a cluster fuck and a half though which you'd think MS would get is a big f'n deal these days.
 
thirty said:
damn you dell. i want my venue pro. i got my cash in hand, take it. or gimme a job, anything to get that phone.
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Yes I completely agree, I hope that the fact that they are giving out 25000 Venue Pros for free would mean they have, or are planing to, manufacture a whole lot of these. It would really suck for everyone if the phone launches and theres not enough phones to meet demand after this.
 
Windu said:
i've seen a lot of WP7 advertisements (mainly from watching the WS). Haven't seen any Kinect ads though.
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Same here.

Time for some rumors and news:

Just yesterday in the comments I noted that I’ll be reaching out to David Pogue when “the first Service Pack comes out in mid-January (with copy and paste, turn-by-turn directions, task switching and plugins for Flash and Silverlight)”. That was based on a rumor first published by MSNerd. Today we have reconfirmation of that rumor. In a blog post from a director at MS:

Critics have commented on the lack of specific features like copy & paste and lack of 100s of thousands of applications. And while both are true, copy & paste will be available as an update in a matter of weeks (early 2011) and as for applications, it’s just a matter of time. Developing Windows Phone 7 apps is as easy as developing any .NET/Silverlight application.​

If the rumors hold true, that’s not just a copy and paste update, that’s a Bing navigaton, task switching, Flash/Silverlight plug-in enabling update. So for the critics out there, you’re on notice – you don’t have a lot of time to point to these issues so use them while you can. Now get me my phone so I can start a new countdown for SP 1.
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Mobility Digest: Windows Phone SP 1 Coming In January

You'd think working for a big tech company would have its gadget-related perks and in Dell's case that's very much true. The big PC vendor has demonstrated its commitment to building up its own smartphone services by offering to trade employees' old and busted BlackBerry devices for the shiny new hotness that is the Venue Pro. If everyone takes up Round Rock on its offer, there'll be 25,000 RIM smartphones looking for new homes soon, along with a sprightly start to Windows Phone 7's time in the limelight. The Wall Street Journal reports this'll cut Dell's mobile communications bill by a quarter, thanks to no longer having to support BlackBerry servers, while also noting that Android variants will be made available in the future as well. Where there's Lightning, there's gotta be Thunder, right?
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Engadget: Dell offering free Venue Pros to employees in exchange for their BlackBerrys
 
killertofu said:
I tweeted @ Tmobile and they told me that only Dell would be selling the Venue Pro :(
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Much like the Streak, Dell and only Dell sells their own products
 
Cirekiller said:
Yes I completely agree, I hope that the fact that they are giving out 25000 Venue Pros for free would mean they have, or are planing to, manufacture a whole lot of these. It would really suck for everyone if the phone launches and theres not enough phones to meet demand after this.
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i don't know. they'll probably sell the phones at an outrageous price like $700+.

i just wish they'd come out with a price and date so i can make a decision as to buy the venue pro or just go with the HD7, which i can pre-order now from wirefly for $529 including 2nd day fedex shipping.
 
Cirekiller said:
Yes I completely agree, I hope that the fact that they are giving out 25000 Venue Pros for free would mean they have, or are planing to, manufacture a whole lot of these. It would really suck for everyone if the phone launches and theres not enough phones to meet demand after this.
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Hopefully it will kickstart enterprise adoption of WP7!
 
I'm really liking using a HD7 now and going from the t mobile version of the galaxy s, and the ability to uninstall useless apps is a plus.
 
I was hoping to buy out of my Verizon contract and switch to T-Mobile for the HD7. Sounds like I'm not guaranteed to get one at this point? :(
 
thirty said:
i don't know. they'll probably sell the phones at an outrageous price like $700+.

i just wish they'd come out with a price and date so i can make a decision as to buy the venue pro or just go with the HD7, which i can pre-order now from wirefly for $529 including 2nd day fedex shipping.
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I seriously hope that this is not the case. How does Dell expect this to sell well if its more expensive than an iPhone? Also this would be bad news for me because, I'm not really interested in any of the other phones, 700+ sounds like alot of money for a phone. I don't want to be stuck with my old flip phone! =(
 
This bodes well: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...ival-ipad-for-developer-attention-in-2011.ars

Developers say they are most interested in Android, Windows Phone 7, and the iPad as platforms for their mobile apps in 2011, according to a report titled "State of the Apps Industry Snapshot" released today by Millennial Media. The firm, known for its mobile ad network, worked together with technology analysis site Digiday and Wall Street analyst Jordan Rohan from Stifel Nicolaus to procure the data. The team surveyed app developers, publishers, and advertisers in the most recent quarter to learn their plans for next year.

Both publishers and developers have grown their cross-platform application development this year and plan to further diversify in 2011. Android, the iPad, Windows Mobile, and Symbian saw the most significant increases from 2009. In the image above, Chart A represents mobile platforms the participants are developing for in 2010 while Chart B shows new app platforms they plan to support in 2011.

As you can see, the iPhone has been the number one platform of choice in 2010, followed by Android, the iPad, RIM, and Windows Mobile. Meanwhile, Android, Windows Phone 7, and the iPad are projected to get the most attention for new apps next year.

Given its rapidly growing market share, it's not very surprising that Android might see the biggest growth next year. Mountain View's platform could very well overtake Cupertino's in 2011 if these numbers hold, especially given that Millennial noted Apple (as well as RIM) saw a year-over-year decrease in developer support. Apple is currently dominating the tablet space, so the attention given the iPad is no surprise. Windows Phone excitement, however, is a little more eyebrow-raising since it's not yet a tested platform. Could it be that Microsoft is still the best at rallying developers, developers, developers, even in the mobile space?

On the other side of the spectrum, we have Palm, with the weakest developer interest, at 4 percent. The ailing Symbian platform was not much higher at 6 percent. Nokia is switching to MeeGo so the latter isn't a shocker, but the former implies that HP is not inspiring much confidence with its webOS decisions.
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