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SonofdonCD said:
Finally got my phone, and am loving it so far. I just have to figure out how to transfer my phone numbers from my old Windows Mobile phone. Any help here guys?
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Copy the numbers from your old phone to your SIM and when you put the SIM in your Windows Phone, you can import the numbers and contacts.
 
Interesting, if not unsurprising, article from Pocket-lint reiterating that Microsoft is devoted to WP7 as its handheld gaming machine.

I always kind of figured that Live-enabled games dominated their indie-brethren but I'm surprised it's by such a margin. Less than 1% of the gaming inventory makes up 30% of sales and 70% of revenue - that's pretty crazy. I wonder whether that takes into account ad revenue from games or not. Probably the latter.

Anyway, as this is a gaming forum, what say ye, WP7GAF? How much do you game on your phone and would you have an interest in paying up for premium games that are crafted for the platform and well-integrated with Live? Personally I'm glad that MS is trying to set $2.99 as the floor for their Live games and I hope that that will lead to better games in the future and more interest from developers.
 
Anno said:
Interesting, if not unsurprising, article from Pocket-lint reiterating that Microsoft is devoted to WP7 as its handheld gaming machine.

I always kind of figured that Live-enabled games dominated their indie-brethren but I'm surprised it's by such a margin. Less than 1% of the gaming inventory makes up 30% of sales and 70% of revenue - that's pretty crazy. I wonder whether that takes into account ad revenue from games or not. Probably the latter.

Anyway, as this is a gaming forum, what say ye, WP7GAF? How much do you game on your phone and would you have an interest in paying up for premium games that are crafted for the platform and well-integrated with Live? Personally I'm glad that MS is trying to set $2.99 as the floor for their Live games and I hope that that will lead to better games in the future and more interest from developers.
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Yes I'm down, but I don't want quick iOS ports or things that are of similar ilk being charged for say $8 when it should be less. I'm more than willing to pay $10 for a solid WP7 XBLA like title, but it needs to be as good as current XBLA titles. Only game I currently feel this way about is ilo milo. When game like Outland releases on XBLA for $10 it's HARD to pay even $5 for meh games let alone rip offs like the Castlevania game.
 
claviertekky said:
Supposedly, sometime next month, Microsoft will start migrating users from the Windows Mobile MyPhone application to Windows Sky Drive.

That will be the new app to sync with Windows Phone 7, so I guess if you're super lazy and already have MyPhone setup with your old phone, you can just wait until then.

Otherwise, program it manually and set up your phone through your live account.
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I was hoping you didn't say that. I knew about this, but was hoping that there was another automated way of doing this. I guess I'll just manually write my most needed numbers into the phone now, and transfer the rest later. I also wanted all my texts, but again I'll just have to wait.
brotkasten said:
Copy the numbers from your old phone to your SIM and when you put the SIM in your Windows Phone, you can import the numbers and contacts.
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On Verizon, meaning no SIM card on the old phone to transfer. Plus, the reason I got this new phone now and not later like I was planning is that the screen on my old Samsung Omnia WM6.1 phone stopped working. I can't see anything on it, period.

Anyway, besides that, I'l looking forward to learning all of the ins and outs of the UI, which is really great so far.
 
I've never used wm 6.5, but if you can sync to outlook you should be able to use the outlook -> hotmail plugin to sync contacts. Or if there is sone way to sync them with Google you could do that also.
 
PG2G said:
I've never used wm 6.5, but if you can sync to outlook you should be able to use the outlook -> hotmail plugin to sync contacts. Or if there is sone way to sync them with Google you could do that also.
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Yes. This is the easiest. Sync to outlook with 6.5 (I did mine with an iPhone). Install hotmail connector. Initiate the live account that you use on you phone, copy contacts to the live contact list in outlook. Sync to live (send-receive) and your phone syncs that list.
 
So I deleted a bunch of apps and now my toast/tiles notifications for apps that matter are working again.

I'm hesitant to install an app now. Mango needs to arrive soon.
 
ochobit said:
So I deleted a bunch of apps and now my toast/tiles notifications for apps that matter are working again.

I'm hesitant to install an app now. Mango needs to arrive soon.
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I think the live tile limit is 15 right now.
 
I really want to buy a Samsung Omnia 7, but I'd never be able to stand the 8GB of internal memory, so I'll be picking up a 16GB LG Optimus 7 instead. Are there any plans to add proper extendable memory like with the Xbox? Seems like Microsoft would be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't include it.
 
NotTarts said:
I really want to buy a Samsung Omnia 7, but I'd never be able to stand the 8GB of internal memory, so I'll be picking up a 16GB LG Optimus 7 instead. Are there any plans to add proper extendable memory like with the Xbox? Seems like Microsoft would be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't include it.
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Samsung has a 16GB model of the Omnia 7 and the only memory extension for Windows Phone is the cloud, with Windows Live, SkyDrive and Windows Home Server.
 
brotkasten said:
Samsung has a 16GB model of the Omnia 7 and the only memory extension for Windows Phone is the cloud, with Windows Live, SkyDrive and Windows Home Server.
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I saw it on Samsung's site, but I can't find it anywhere at all in Australia. I'm planning to replace my 8GB iPod Touch, and 8GB of storage just won't cut it, to be honest.
 
Anno said:
Interesting, if not unsurprising, article from Pocket-lint reiterating that Microsoft is devoted to WP7 as its handheld gaming machine.

I always kind of figured that Live-enabled games dominated their indie-brethren but I'm surprised it's by such a margin. Less than 1% of the gaming inventory makes up 30% of sales and 70% of revenue - that's pretty crazy. I wonder whether that takes into account ad revenue from games or not. Probably the latter.

Anyway, as this is a gaming forum, what say ye, WP7GAF? How much do you game on your phone and would you have an interest in paying up for premium games that are crafted for the platform and well-integrated with Live? Personally I'm glad that MS is trying to set $2.99 as the floor for their Live games and I hope that that will lead to better games in the future and more interest from developers.
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I play quite a few games on my phone.... hydro thunder go, ilomilo, full house poker, alphajax, wordament, and a few others.

I am not surprised at all that only the xbox branded games sell. There are a bunch of reasons for that but the biggest is an expectation of quality associated with the xbox brand. I know all the xbox branded games will be atleast playable (and have a free demo). The other games have the ios problem where its very hard to stand out and 90% of those games are utter crap. I never browse that side of the marketplace. If I hear about a good indie game here or on one of the other blogs I will go check it out but that is it. On the other hand I will try each xbla game.

I personally don't want a premium..... what I want is the ability to "purchase once and play everywhere". If I buy the game on the console I should be able to just play it on the phone and vice versa. I would also want to see ALL xbla console games to have phone ports (sorta like the ps3-vita thing but more universal).
 
Anno said:
Interesting, if not unsurprising, article from Pocket-lint reiterating that Microsoft is devoted to WP7 as its handheld gaming machine.

I always kind of figured that Live-enabled games dominated their indie-brethren but I'm surprised it's by such a margin. Less than 1% of the gaming inventory makes up 30% of sales and 70% of revenue - that's pretty crazy. I wonder whether that takes into account ad revenue from games or not. Probably the latter.

Anyway, as this is a gaming forum, what say ye, WP7GAF? How much do you game on your phone and would you have an interest in paying up for premium games that are crafted for the platform and well-integrated with Live? Personally I'm glad that MS is trying to set $2.99 as the floor for their Live games and I hope that that will lead to better games in the future and more interest from developers.
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It would be so much better if MSFT set up bluetooth profiles for gamepads and other add-ons. If Msft had an official stand of sorts with a bluetooth gamepad, or an official "Gaming Grip" pad it would make WP7 a million times more worthwhile as a gaming platform. They have the resources to do it, and devs can just release a patch to include the functionality also.

WP7 is kind of held back because, IMO, MS keeps half-assing their approach to it. They don't leverage the advantage of having Office because theres no profile for bluetooth KBs/Mice and they've let developments and updates go by the wayside. The Xbox Live app is underdeveloped and, like I said before, they don't offer an advantage over Android other than gamerpoints. Bing is anemic compared to the Windows Mobile or iOS or Android versions. And the Music/Media player is nowhere near as good as Zune.

The missed potential is kind of maddening.
 
Okay somehow with my reformating and all of that I have like 2 gigs of random saved space, and it's not tied to my currently saved space.... or at least so says zune... wtf do I have to do other than reformat to get it back...
 
Still haven't seen a WP7 in the wild, but I hope sales improve for the sake of competition. I did, however, meet a girl at the bar who had a Kin. My mind was blown.
 
What I find silly is that some retailer (best buy) is giving away Microsoft point card with Windows Phone 7 and you can't use it on Windows Phone marketplace..
 
Anyone else had any problems with the Facebook app and FB messaging? I couldn't scroll the text window, so I couldn't see what I was typing after a certain point. Very frustrating :(

JCX said:
Still haven't seen a WP7 in the wild, but I hope sales improve for the sake of competition. I did, however, meet a girl at the bar who had a Kin. My mind was blown.
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I know of two people with WP7... my stepdad recognized it when he saw me using it this week, he was like "oh, that's windows phone, right? I heard those were cool." Aµnd he is NOT tech-savvy.

Word of mouth is gonna make it for MS in the end I hope, but I wish it would hurry up.
 
IM+ for Windows Phone was submitted to the Marketplace.
AAAAND IT'S FINALLY HERE! Today we're submitting IM+ for WP7 to Microsoft Marketplace. Approval process may take a while. Bloggers, beta testers and all those who are interested in getting pre-release version today, please send your contact at support@shapeservices.com with "IM+ WP7 beta" in subject line.
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I'm curious to see how it works without sockets.
 
Aklamarth said:
It will suck just like the others. Doing this over http is not feasible. Guess will see working IM apps on mango release.
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Yeah, but IM+ is a quality app on other platforms and they took their sweet time for this one. Releasing a shitty app now, so close before Mango would hurt their reputation, imo.
 
Does anyone here have an iPad? Can you record a VGA quality video using your Win7 phone, preferably the Omnia, and see whether you can email it to yourself and play it either in the Mail app or the Safari browser

Thanks
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Does anyone here have an iPad? Can you record a VGA quality video using your Win7 phone, preferably the Omnia, and see whether you can email it to yourself and play it either in the Mail app or the Safari browser

Thanks
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I can't the option to send videos over email in WP7.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Does anyone here have an iPad? Can you record a VGA quality video using your Win7 phone, preferably the Omnia, and see whether you can email it to yourself and play it either in the Mail app or the Safari browser

Thanks
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Recorded a video with my Optimus 7, copied it to my PC, mailed it, plays on my first gen iPad in the mail app.
 
I'm still stuck between the 16GB Omnia 7 (which is proving almost impossible to find, even in the US), and the LG Optimus 7 (which is in plentiful supply). I'm leaning torwards the Optimus 7, but I'm not too sure about the screen and camera. How do the two phones stack up against each other?
 
Aklamarth said:
It will suck just like the others. Doing this over http is not feasible. Guess will see working IM apps on mango release.
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Why not? Its not like you're making a direct connection to the IM network servers. You're connected to IM+ who is connected to the servers. http for outgoing messages to their servers and push for received messages.
 
NotTarts said:
I'm still stuck between the 16GB Omnia 7 (which is proving almost impossible to find, even in the US), and the LG Optimus 7 (which is in plentiful supply). I'm leaning torwards the Optimus 7, but I'm not too sure about the screen and camera. How do the two phones stack up against each other?
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The US version of the Omnia 7 would be the Samsung Focus. I have the Optimus 7 and the LCD screen is okay, the camera is average. I got it, because it was much cheaper than the Omnia 7 at the time when I bought it.
 
Sleeplessnights said:
I can't the option to send videos over email in WP7.
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Transfer it to your computer and then email it


brotkasten said:
Recorded a video with my Optimus 7, copied it to my PC, mailed it, plays on my first gen iPad in the mail app.
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Interesting
 
PG2G said:
Why not? Its not like you're making a direct connection to the IM network servers. You're connected to IM+ who is connected to the servers. http for outgoing messages to their servers and push for received messages.
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Latency. But don't get me wrong....my comment was in the context of a TRUE IM app. All these app do "post" and "refresh" using http on their own server. It's possible to have a conversion like this but it's certainly not "instant".
 
NotTarts said:
I'm still stuck between the 16GB Omnia 7 (which is proving almost impossible to find, even in the US), and the LG Optimus 7 (which is in plentiful supply). I'm leaning torwards the Optimus 7, but I'm not too sure about the screen and camera. How do the two phones stack up against each other?
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Go for LG. IF you're not convinced watch this video. Seriously...the screen on the LG is fine. Plus it has true buttons not those touchy useless stuff like the omnia.
 
Aklamarth said:
Latency. But don't get me wrong....my comment was in the context of a TRUE IM app. All these app do "post" and "refresh" using http on their own server. It's possible to have a conversion like this but it's certainly not "instant".
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Maybe it's not "instant", but it's not like the messages have a 5 second delay (which would be still enough, imo).

Aklamarth said:
Go for LG. IF you're not convinced watch this video. Seriously...the screen on the LG is fine. Plus it has true buttons not those touchy useless stuff like the omnia.
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That's Gorilla Glass, it's not that good or scratch resistant and the Samsung phones have it too. I suppose he was talking about LCD vs Super AMOLED. But yeah, I prefer the tactile buttons over the capacitive buttons. I'm pretty happy with the build quality.
 
so rumor is nokia will show off a windows phone in 5 days that will "blow our minds." they'll also show off their plan to restructure their marketplace into the windows phone ecosystem.
 
Evernote's WP7 app is available and it looks really great.

winphone_panorama.png


winphone_newnote.png


http://blog.evernote.com/

thirty said:
so rumor is nokia will show off a windows phone in 5 days that will "blow our minds." they'll also show off their plan to restructure their marketplace into the windows phone ecosystem.
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"Blow our socks off" was the wording, but that's not enough. They should better blow the iOS and Android underpants from some people off. :lol
 
brotkasten said:
Evernote's WP7 app is available and it looks really great.

http://blog.evernote.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/winphone_panorama.png

http://blog.evernote.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/winphone_newnote.png

http://blog.evernote.com/


"Blow our socks off" was the wording, but that's not enough. They should better blow the iOS and Android underpants from some people off. :lol
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Unless they show a Nokia phone with WinMo 6.5, it'll be impossible to not blow people away with a usable Nokia smartphone.
 
Why blow their wad if the phone isn't coming out soon? Nobody wants to hear about a phone now, with no pricing info or release date, and then not be able to buy it until November.
 
Do carriers freely give unlock codes? (specifically the for the LG Quantum or Focus) My sis is still using a Blackjack so I want to get her a new phone but she's on T-Mobile USA.
 
giga said:
Do carriers freely give unlock codes? (specifically the for the LG Quantum or Focus) My sis is still using a Blackjack so I want to get her a new phone but she's on T-Mobile USA.
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Give them some schpiel about how you're traveling out of the country and you need to unlock it. They usually have a policy to not give up the unlock codes for a period time.
 
giga said:
Do carriers freely give unlock codes? (specifically the for the LG Quantum or Focus) My sis is still using a Blackjack so I want to get her a new phone but she's on T-Mobile USA.
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Supposedly you can request an unlock code if you're a customer on that carrier for a specified amount of time, are on a paying plan, and haven't requested an unlock code for some period of time (1-2 years).

You can call in customer service and say you need to unlock your phone since you're traveling abroad next week. Typically, that's enough for CS to give you an unlock.

If you're not subscribed to that carrier, have a friend who is and do the above.
 
Copernicus said:
Unless they show a Nokia phone with WinMo 6.5, it'll be impossible to not blow people away with a usable Nokia smartphone.
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I think that would be the greatest troll in mobile history. :lol

"Hi guys, I know you all want to see our Windows Phones, but we're not quite ready yet. Instead, we have this super cool Windows Mobile 6.5 communicator for the enterprise!"

Charred Greyface said:
Why blow their wad if the phone isn't coming out soon? Nobody wants to hear about a phone now, with no pricing info or release date, and then not be able to buy it until November.
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I agree that it's a bit early and I do think that it's stupid (look at HP and the Touchpad, Veer, Pre3), but I guess they have to make people aware that Nokia has new stuff coming, especially with the next iPhone and Nexus rumors going around. I think Nokia's mindshare is in the toilet. They want people to say "Meh, I'm gonna wait for that Nokia Windows Phone" instead of "I'm gonna wait for the iPhone 5/Nexus 3" when someone announces the 6th refresh of the same Android phone.
 
Alright thanks guys. It's crazy how these devices are going for under $200 used. Can't beat that price considering the OS, Snapdragon, and 512MB inside.
 
giga said:
Alright thanks guys. It's crazy how these devices are going for under $200 used. Can't beat that price considering the OS, Snapdragon, and 512MB inside.
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Don't forget that you can't use 3G on T-Mobile's network.
 
brotkasten said:
I agree that it's a bit early and I do think that it's stupid (look at HP and the Touchpad, Veer, Pre3), but I guess they have to make people aware that Nokia has new stuff coming, especially with the next iPhone and Nexus rumors going around. I think Nokia's mindshare is in the toilet. They want people to say "Meh, I'm gonna wait for that Nokia Windows Phone" instead of "I'm gonna wait for the iPhone 5/Nexus 3" when someone announces the 6th refresh of the same Android phone.
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They never did say when in the year their first phones would come..... its certainly possible they could have one ready for august/september which is only 2-3 months away now.
 
I must say, the Windows Home Server 2011 and Windows Phone 7 connectivity looks great. It's a bit like your personal cloud, including your own music and, if you have .wmv files, video streaming service. Screw Netflix, Zune Pass, Pandora and Rdio. :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZapifFLMimU

I guess I'll upgrade to WHS 2011 after all (... bastards).

jagowar said:
They never did say when in the year their first phones would come..... its certainly possible they could have one ready for august/september which is only 2-3 months away now.
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They said Q4 2012.
 
brotkasten said:
"Blow our socks off" was the wording, but that's not enough. They should better blow the iOS and Android underpants from some people off. :lol
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I think it would be best if the product was high quality on all the platforms. That way, everyone can enjoy a good product.
 
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