claviertekky said:Guess I'll be holding onto this beloved Diamond a bit longer.
Why yes it is. A small hole formed at the corner of the back cover. Stupid plastic back cover design decision.brotkasten said:I thought it was falling apart.
my pockets are like my personality.DrFunk said:If anyone has deep pockets (and don't want to wait), the HTC Titan has US 3G bands (850/1900):
http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-titan
A Mango-updated Arrive doesn't appeal to you I take it?claviertekky said:Sprint. Announce your Mango phones already!!!!!!!
claviertekky said:Next month.
We have the iPhone now.
lol what is WP7?
Bye,
Sprint
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Guess I'll be holding onto this beloved Diamond a bit longer.
brotkasten said:We don't know. The FCC got this one in March. Could've been the rumored US version of the Omnia 7 or it could be a Mango phone now (FFC pre-Mango would be useless). It's weird that they published the files now, shortly before the rumored Mango roll-out. We had some rumors and mentions about a Samsung i8350 and Omnia W.
DrFunk said:If anyone has deep pockets (and don't want to wait), the HTC Titan has US 3G bands (850/1900):
http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-titan
As much as I prefer a hardware keyboard over a touchscreen keyboard, I want a touchscreen only device for reliability.XiaNaphryz said:A Mango-updated Arrive doesn't appeal to you I take it?
The fact that my Mozart has a problem which is just resets like a bitch. Also the fact HTC phones of late all have the same boring industrial design.Steelyuhas said:What didn't you like before that you are warming to now?
Curious, because it seems like a great device to me.
PSGames said:4G or no sale.
Totakeke said:Man, this facebook generator video thingy for Windows Phone people hub is pretty cool.
http://www.au-windowsphone.jp/
kharma45 said:Damn, wish somewhere near me was selling Omnia's off cheap as I'd have dived in no problem.
I was in a Vodafone store asking about WP7 and the guy said they didn't stock them anymore, and he told me they were rubbish. I decided to press him on why they were and he actually couldn't give me a reason as to why and just tried to bs something about the phone not working with Windows PCs.
Says it all, lots of ignorance about the platform.
Raistlin said:Sorry if this was already posted but I found it interesting. W8 to run WP7 apps?
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/windows-8-will-run-windows-phone-7-apps/22539/
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-8-successor-to-windows-7-will-run-windows-phone-7-apps-2/
Apparently NVIDIAs CEO Jen-Hsun Huang let it slip. I think this would definitely be a boon for both WP7 and W8 (tablet at least).
Coincidentally (or not) ... check this out
http://wmpoweruser.com/phonegap-html5-development-framework-comes-to-windows-phone-7-5/
MS has helped Nitobi bring their PhoneGap HTML5 developer framework to WP7 Mango. It allows developers to use a 3rd dev alternative. So now instead of using either Silverlight or XNA, one can use HTML5, CSS and JavaScript. Interestingly ... the same languages/scripting environment thus far announced for non-desktop W8 apps.
hmmmmm ....
Sennorin said:so, Mango release is on September 15th, right?
It ddoesn't help users, developers or the platform to run touch optimized phone apps on a a bigger screen touch tablet/ mouse drive desktop.Raistlin said:Sorry if this was already posted but I found it interesting. W8 to run WP7 apps?
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/windows-8-will-run-windows-phone-7-apps/22539/
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-8-successor-to-windows-7-will-run-windows-phone-7-apps-2/
Apparently NVIDIAs CEO Jen-Hsun Huang let it slip. I think this would definitely be a boon for both WP7 and W8 (tablet at least).
Now this would be a boon.Raistlin said:Coincidentally (or not) ... check this out
http://wmpoweruser.com/phonegap-html5-development-framework-comes-to-windows-phone-7-5/
MS has helped Nitobi bring their PhoneGap HTML5 developer framework to WP7 Mango. It allows developers to use a 3rd dev alternative. So now instead of using either Silverlight or XNA, one can use HTML5, CSS and JavaScript. Interestingly ... the same languages/scripting environment thus far announced for non-desktop W8 apps.
hmmmmm ....
Greyface said:functioning web browser?
tethering (usb, bluetooth and wifi)
homebrew/jailbreak solution
download manager (background and scheduled)
notification center.
Sennorin said:so, Mango release is on September 15th, right?
I hope it won't be released. I lost my Nodo backup and would have to flash the RTM rom again, which is a pain in the ass.Copernicus said:'11 or '12?
usb tethering doesn't work with macs. i want bluetooth and/or wifi tethering by hook or by crook like i can get on ios, webos, android, symbian and blackberry os. Heck, even the wp 6.5 offered tethering.Totakeke said:USB tethering is available on some phones and it works for Mango too. Don't see the use for bluetooth tethering. Wifi tethering already shown but no one knows the unlock method yet.
yeah, microsoft already said they were going to neuter that.Totakeke said:There's an official jailbreak method for a small fee already being setup at http://labs.chevronwp7.com/.
add that to the browser and offer that to third party apps with an api. I should also add that I'd like a decent file management system attached to this,Totakeke said:The way podcasts subscription work already do both background and scheduled downloads.
i prefer the live tiles to app icons/bagdes on ios but it doesn't make up for a notification center. i can't make every app a live tlle. The toasts were better than the alerts in ios but the new ones in iOS5 have almost caught up.Totakeke said:The way live tiles work kind of circumvent a need for a more robust notification center, I'll say probably Apollo if we do see anything here.
Greyface said:It doesn't help users, developers or the platform to run touch optimized phone apps on a a bigger screen touch tablet/ mouse drive desktop.
usb tethering doesn't work with macs. i want bluetooth and/or wifi tethering by hook or by crook like i can get on ios, webos, android, symbian and blackberry os. Heck, even the wp 6.5 offered tethering.
Greyface said:yeah, microsoft already said they were going to neuter that.
it's 'confirmed' for mango in the same way usb tethering is 'confirmed' for nodo i.e. available on a few handsets after hacking the code the manufacturer left in.JaggedSac said:I believe wifi tethering is already confirmed for Mango.
Microsoft effectively said that they'll limit what it can do. Consider it like sideloading apps on android versus rooting an android phone. it'll be like installing the amazon marketplace i guess.Totakeke said:Oh really? I thought this was going to be supported be Microsoft, when did they change their minds?
Totakeke said:Oh really? I thought this was going to be supported be Microsoft, when did they change their minds?
Yeah that was an earlier post regarding that from brotkasten.wwm0nkey said:Apparently a lot of the final Mango builds for HTC phones leaked.
Robobandit said:No, he means that Chevron WP7 won't allow you to run native code on the device (i.e. registry editors, etc.) it will just let you dev and deploy your own XNA and Silverlight based applications without signing up to be a developer.
It will give you the ability to run homebrew apps in the same vein as the ones you find in the marketplace.. it won't give you access to parts of the system that normal apps don't have access to.
wondering if I should upgrade, will it block future updates and will it work with a American device since these are EU builds apparentlyclaviertekky said:Yeah that was an earlier post regarding that from brotkasten.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30777700&postcount=11500
brotkasten said:HTC users are lucky. The final Mango roms for the Trophy, 7 Pro, HD7 and Mozart leaked.
http://www.winrumors.com/htc-trophy-hd7-and-pro-windows-phone-7-5-mango-roms-leak/
Maaaan, that stuff never happens with LG phones.(at least I can dev unlock my phone whenever I want and for free
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Running phone apps on a tablet has no use? *looks at iPad and Android*Greyface said:It ddoesn't help users, developers or the platform to run touch optimized phone apps on a a bigger screen touch tablet/ mouse drive desktop.
Yes, but I think it does tie to the former point (assuming it's true).Now this would be a boon.
Wait for BUILD.NotTarts said:Eh, I still refuse to believe that Microsoft is abandoning Silverlight and XNA for HTML5. It doesn't make any sense and it sounds absurd.
Not necessarily.Totakeke said:Ah okay. Not a big deal for me I guess since that was part of what I expected when I chose this platform. I guess the low marketshare of WP doesn't encourage much hacking or homebrew either.
Not.true. webOS had less marketshare than WP7 and yet has a more vibrant hacking scene and more useful homebrew apps. indeed all the items on my wishlist for WP7 were provided by the homebrew patches on webOS. That's partly why it pisses me off so much that Microsoft is dicking around the chevron team and homebrew users by extension.Totakeke said:Ah okay. Not a big deal for me I guess since that was part of what I expected when I chose this platform. I guess the low marketshare of WP doesn't encourage much hacking or homebrew either.
Not allowing native code is more if a security measure than anything else.Greyface said:Not.true. webOS had less marketshare than WP7 and yet has a more vibrant hacking scene and more useful homebrew apps. indeed all the items on my wishlist for WP7 were provided by the homebrew patches on webOS. That's partly why it pisses me off so much that Microsoft is dicking around the chevron team and homebrew users by extension.
i don't give a fuck. i don't care about that kind of 'security'. Desktop Windows 7, Mac OS X, Android, webOS Symbian, etc allow native code and their 'security' is alright.NotTarts said:Not allowing native code is more if a security measure than anything else.
Sorry if I touched a nerve by responding to your post, but there's really no need to be an asshole about it.Greyface said:i don't give a fuck. i don't care about that kind of 'security'. Desktop Windows 7, Mac OS X, Android, webOS Symbian, etc allow native code and their 'security' is alright.
wow, come on dude, us wp-gaf are all pretty cool guys, lets keep it that way.Greyface said:i don't give a fuck. i don't care about that kind of 'security'. Desktop Windows 7, Mac OS X, Android, webOS Symbian, etc allow native code and their 'security' is alright.
Did you miss the photo of the new internet sharing setting that was shown for the first time in the Mango RTM build? It has nothing to do with NoDo.Greyface said:it's 'confirmed' for mango in the same way usb tethering is 'confirmed' for nodo i.e. available on a few handsets after hacking the code the manufacturer left in.
Microsoft effectively said that they'll limit what it can do. Consider it like sideloading apps on android versus rooting an android phone. it'll be like installing the amazon marketplace i guess.
probably NOT enabled by your carrier, as is more likely the case. sadly.brotkasten said:Did you miss the photo of the new internet sharing setting that was shown for the first time in the Mango RTM build? It has nothing to do with NoDo.
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That's an OS setting, probably enabled by your carrier.
MagniHarvald said:So.. is there any way to find out your own phone number in WP7?
I just got my 5th number for this year, so I'm getting everything mixed up.. it'd just be practical to have it in the Me hub for easy access
plagiarize said:probably NOT enabled by your carrier, as is more likely the case. sadly.
http://www.liveside.net/2011/08/25/windows-phone-7-5-mango-supports-wifi-internet-sharingtethering/Based on the text in the photo above, this feature allow users to share their mobile data connection over WiFi with up to 5 guests. However, WPCentral reports that this feature uses quite a bit of power, so to conserve battery life, the tethering will turn off automatically after a few minutes of inactivity.
Long Zheng over at iStartedSomething.com went further and digged out some Mango localization files which shows how this feature might work:
The text highlighted above shows a Windows Phone dialogue text in Mango which gives some clues as to how this feature can be enabled. The text reads:
To enable tethering on this device dial {0}
To enable tethering on this device, go to {0}
According to Long, this suggest tethering will not be enabled by default and instead users will have to call their operator or visit their operators website to have the feature enabled (provisioned) remotely. In addition, Long also mentioned that users will be able to choose between no encryption (Open) and WPA2 encryption, and the number of guests allowed is also apparently customizable, presumably by the carrier.
that's what i was sort of getting at. the carriers are likely to make us pay extra for tethering. hopefully someone finds a way of enabling it. the reason it isn't enabled by default is because carriers don't want it enabled by default.brotkasten said:
yea its pretty bullshit.giga said:Unless you have a fully unlocked, carrier free phone, the hotspot feature will always be at the mercy of carriers.
$20 extra fucking charge:
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plagiarize said:that's what i was sort of getting at. the carriers are likely to make us pay extra for tethering. hopefully someone finds a way of enabling it.