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[Robobandit]

Have there been pictures of the Focus S yet or are you guys just wanting a phone off the spec sheet?

It's the WP7 SGS II look-alike.. super thin, 4.3" super amoled plus display.. a.k.a. the mystery samsung device microsoft showed off when they weren't supposed to.

 

[Blackhead]

Have there been pictures of the Focus S yet or are you guys just wanting a phone off the spec sheet?

spec sheet. Which is funny when you think about it because they all have the same specs.

 

[gcubed]

spec sheet. Which is funny when you think about it because they all have the same specs.

Yeah, what are the differences? Screen type and size, internal memory, looks?

 

[strata8]

SamFirmware has a ton of cred on XDA forums...they leak semi-official firmwares constantly D:

Yeah, not anymore:

So let me start by saying this - I am completely new to all of this, but I have a pretty good understanding of all things technology. I have never heard of SAMFirmware until now being a new Samsung/WP7 user (iPhone user previously) so you won't be seeing any instant praise for past things from me, as I have never personally benefited from anything you have ever done, and from what I have read I don't see any reason to start.

Firstly - correct me if I am wrong - this is the way it appears to a new user such as myself:

Samfirmware are a bunch of guys who have a -possibly a few or even many -insiders linked to Samsung on one way or another (be it a direct employee, or a geeky relative exploiting their) who leak their firmwares to them. They have made many things possible, but lets face it if they didn't do it someone else would have done it sooner or later.

Anyway, they've released this german Tmobile branded firmware which is an engineering prototype rom. Technically it is better than the Mango RTM that was leaked because it has the new - although quite possibly not finished - drivers specific to the Samsung Omnia 7.

Now they have come forward claiming they have an unbranded version of the rom - to my understanding this apparent rom is unbranded finished version (or an unbranded engineering version? not too sure on that to be honest) but they are refusing to release it because they do not have enough downloads for a ROM that - as stated several times by more experienced users here - is a pretty useless jump to have to make when you take into account that a) Samfirmware claim to have this new rom, b) given that they have the engineering rom, and are claiming to have this newer rom, surely the official update will be out relatively soon, and finally (the most important part for phone users everywhere) c) no one has the ability to backup everything before the flashing. No one wants to have to reflash their phone again now after going RTM, then to go to this, then all the way back to NODO to update to the official one when it gets released You know what even d) Mango RTM works perfectly fine on my Omnia 7, but I can't vouch for everyone.

In my honest opinion, I think you really need to sort your act out if you want to make it as some sort of "exclusive" website. Your replies to members on here are downright rude and completely illiterate to boot. On that note, your websites overall design is flawed, doesn't work properly and is horrible to look at - coupled with bad grammar, and a crappy userbase it's probably one of the worst sites I have ever seen. It is not in anyway user-friendly, and is not something I can see myself using, regardless of what firmwares you are in posession of.

As far as I am concerned, you don't even have this firmware. I can 'shoop me a picture in 10 seconds and claim I have it, so don't even ask me to look at anything - I am not at all interested. Your sheer arrogance has guaranteed that I personally, will not sign up to your site, and you can shove the few pence you would have got from a download from me - I couldn't care less.

If you do actually have it, we will have the official version soon enough so it really doesn't matter. As I touched on previously; if you weren't here there would be some other group leaking these roms - you are not special, and as such you deserve no more praise than any other person on these forums.

How can you seriously hope to get more traffic and a bigger user base when you are treating your current members in such a disgusting manner? Trying to claim it isn't about money when clearly it is as your comeback to that did not make a single bit of sense to anyone here.

Good luck with your 'exclusive' roms - and enjoy making money off of other peoples hard work while you can - it will bite you in the ass eventually.

I don't want your firmware, and as far as a new person like myself can see I don't see why anyone has tried to appreciate you in the first place.

Just my two cents. Or should I say pence? Keh.

Thanks to us people could flash the Omnia 7.
Thanks to us you have a official beta rom of Mango.
Thanks to us you have a official NODO rom
Thanks to us you all can see how Mango is on a branded rom.
Thanks to us you can take every firmware of the Omnia 7.
Thanks to us this FUCKING website can talk about roms.

community of XDA is one big shit.
They all walk behind the asses of other people.
All people here can't fix any other rom by themself all hoping on us!

So who the hell is here the loser!'

No respect for us means no repesct for XDA.
We don't care what XDA things or do.



O yes don't forget.
This fucking topic is all because one person told one thing.

 

[Blackhead]

Yeah, what are the differences? Screen type and size, internal memory, looks?

size for me really. I want the smallest WP Mango device and the Focus S looks to be that from all the rumors we've heard. I also actually like the Samsung aesthetic; plastic doesn't bother me when the phone is thin, light and more resilient to drops and scrapes.

 

[DrFunk]

oO typical XDA attitudes I guess. Can't deny that they do provide some good stuff, especially on Android boards.

 

[JaggedSac]

size for me really. I want the smallest WP Mango device and the Focus S looks to be that from all the rumors we've heard. I also actually like the Samsung aesthetic; plastic doesn't bother me when the phone is thin, light and more resilient to drops and scrapes.

The Focus Flash is smaller.

 

[Blackhead]

The Focus Flash is smaller.

oops, my brain assumed it was Focus S(mall). Focus Flash is the one I mean to get then.

 

[strata8]

Hopefully this also means the Mango update is coming soon. Just restored back to NoDo from the Beta and damn it feels slow. Mango is just so much faster on every level.

 

[VanMardigan]

With no dates on Mango, I don't know if I'll update my wife to the Mango beta. I tried the RTM myself, but I have to downgrade my Zune first and I'm lazy. I THINK I have my NoDo backup still, not sure. It would be great if we had dates on the Mango updates.

It'll suck that my phone will be so much better than my wife's. I'd hate going back to NoDo.

 

[shantyman]

I cannot believe you guys put betas on phones you use in real life. SMH

 

[Robobandit]

I cannot believe you guys put betas on phones you use in real life. SMH

It's been 100% stable for me.. no resets, no freezes..

extremely solid software.

 

[Totakeke]

I cannot believe you guys put betas on phones you use in real life. SMH

Not a single ounce of regret I had.

 

[clav]

I cannot believe you guys put betas on phones you use in real life. SMH

Technically, every piece of software is always in beta mode.

Ask yourself. Why we gots updates?

 

[kehs]

I cannot believe you guys put betas on phones you use in real life. SMH

Why not, the companies did it with WP7.

 

[VanMardigan]

The Mango beta is better than NoDo in every way, shape, or form. It's faster, more stable, more functional, more powerful, more versatile, and improves almost every single aspect of Windows Phone.

The real question is: why would anyone continue to use NoDo if they were even slightly technical enough to install the Mango beta?

 

[Pctx]

Why not, the companies did it with WP7.

F'ning brutal.

 

[plagiarize]

I cannot believe you guys put betas on phones you use in real life. SMH

could you believe that it's been 100% stable, more useful and quicker at performing tasks i do on a daily basis?

 

[VanMardigan]

Why not, the companies did it with WP7.

Aren't you an Android user?

 

[strata8]

The Mango beta is better than NoDo in every way, shape, or form. It's faster, more stable, more functional, more powerful, more versatile, and improves almost every single aspect of Windows Phone.

The real question is: why would anyone continue to use NoDo if they were even slightly technical enough to install the Mango beta?

If I could upgrade directly from Mango Beta to the final release, I would happily keep Mango on my phone. I'm just not comfortable with losing weeks of changes I've made to the phone.

Aren't you an Android user?

I think Copernicus recently gave up on Android. Either way, he's right - WP7 at release was unfinished and not exactly stable.

 

[plagiarize]

Aren't you an Android user?

he'll get back to you once he's killed a few background processes and restarted his phone.

 

[thirty]

where are those Focus S pics? hope it isn't that dreadful super glossy plastic.

 

[strata8]

where are those Focus S pics? hope it isn't that dreadful super glossy plastic.

Possibly.

 

[kehs]

Aren't you an Android user?

I have an Android phone, yes.

 

[kinggroin]

he'll get back to you once he's killed a few background processes and restarted his phone.

Android, not IOS.

You should have made a force close joke instead.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Hmmm Focus S or the HTC Titan? I'll have to see more of the Focus S. If the Focus has 32GB of storage, it might make me jump for it.

 

[Milly79]

The new Sammy looks lovely. I think I'll be replacing my Focus with that.

 

[plagiarize]

Android, not IOS.

You should have made a force close joke instead.

i think my 'lingo' is appropriate for android since i used generic terms, rather than platform specific ones.

 

[VanMardigan]

I think Copernicus recently gave up on Android. Either way, he's right - WP7 at release was unfinished and not exactly stable.

It was finished to MS' launch feature spec and plenty stable. They're now adding features and tweaking everything. That's how it works in every case. Heck, Android 2.3 still feels like beta software at times, and you often need to turn to 3rd party launchers for optimal performance (Launcher Pro is my favorite), you need to keep an eye on processes/programs STILL (even after Google said we wouldn't need task killers for Gingerbread), some programs just don't behave right and hog memory, you still get lag, you still get small freezes, you still need re-starts occasionally, etc.

There is no perfect OS out there, its just plain stupid for someone who owns an Android phone to come into a Windows Phone thread and troll about unfinished software.

 

[dream]

I had something to say but I remembered I forfeited my right to make fun of unfinished software when I bought a TouchPad.

 

[kehs]

It was finished to MS' launch feature spec and plenty stable. They're now adding features and tweaking everything. That's how it works in every case. Heck, Android 2.3 still feels like beta software at times, and you often need to turn to 3rd party launchers for optimal performance (Launcher Pro is my favorite), you need to keep an eye on processes/programs STILL (even after Google said we wouldn't need task killers for Gingerbread), some programs just don't behave right and hog memory, you still get lag, you still get small freezes, you still need re-starts occasionally, etc.

There is no perfect OS out there, its just plain stupid for someone who owns an Android phone to come into a Windows Phone thread and troll about unfinished software.

You should let a mod know that your tag is false.

 

[VanMardigan]

You two promised you wouldn't shit up this thread the same way you shitted up the WebOS thread. Keep your promises.

 

[Vanillalite]

Am I the only person that sees no reason to worry about new phones as I'm totally content with my Focus? I just need Mango to go stable, and then I'll be perfectly fine in terms of the OS generally as well (Always want a better browser ).

Biggest thing is we just need the mind share to get apps. It's still the biggest issue, and it's gonna continue to be for sometime I feel. It didn't help the the fact that the initial OS APIs totally sucked so devs couldn't make a ton of apps even if they wanted. Mango alleviates most of this, but that doesn't do much for me if devs don't make stuff.

Only other issue I have is with the XBL titles as the premium price just isn't worth it for a few achievements. Outside of that though my general phone usage is fine, and gotten even better now that Google flagged the WP7 browser for HTML5 Youtube Access.

PS: Posted in the WP7 Gaming thread, but I'm looking for good games that are NOT XBL games. It's sort of a cluster fuck to find what's good if it's not in the XBL list.

 

[dream]

You two promised you wouldn't shit up this thread the same way you shitted up the WebOS thread. Keep your promises.

I like WP7!

 

[kehs]

desubscribed.

See you guys in the Windows Mobile 8 thread.

 

[Damon Bennet]

desubscribed.

See you guys in the Windows Mobile 8 thread.

"windows mobile" ugh

 

[brotkasten]

Don't get so worked up over Copernicus, we all know that he's a bit trollish. Dream tries too hard.

 

[VanMardigan]

PS: Posted in the WP7 Gaming thread, but I'm looking for good games that are NOT XBL games. It's sort of a cluster fuck to find what's good if it's not in the XBL list.

On my phone I have:

Bouncy Mouse
Breakout
Chickens Can Dream
Danger Wing
Fastball 2
Infinite Flight
NinjaBoy
Orb
Pirate's Mind
Platformance (2 of them)
Swipy Man
Vanessa Saint-Pierre
Wordament

All are either free or have free trials.

Don't get so worked up over Copernicus, we all know that he's a bit trollish. Dream tries too hard.

Copernicus is a cool dude when he's not trolling. And he is familiar with great new platforms that nobody uses since he was the one that sent me the Google Plus invite. *tips hat*

 

[dream]

I didn't even say anything!

 

[Complex Shadow]

I didn't even say anything!

you dont need to. we just know.

 

[Magni]

The Mango beta is better than NoDo in every way, shape, or form. It's faster, more stable, more functional, more powerful, more versatile, and improves almost every single aspect of Windows Phone.

The real question is: why would anyone continue to use NoDo if they were even slightly technical enough to install the Mango beta?

a) I don't want to lose everything when Mango ships.
b) Now that we're this close to the launch, it doesn't feel worth it.

 

[Klocker]

Samsung Focus S


SOLD!

 

[mm04]

a) I don't want to lose everything when Mango ships.
b) Now that we're this close to the launch, it doesn't feel worth it.

Now it's not worth it. But when it first became available and even a few weeks after, it absolutely was. Hell, the fact that I demo'd Mango to some family members is the reason 2 of them went WP7 instead of/from iPhone. Of course, I told them Mango wasn't an official release yet. So they'd have to wait.

 

[kinggroin]

i think my 'lingo' is appropriate for android since i used generic terms, rather than platform specific ones.

Oh...well, then that isn't really very clever, no?

 

[Joel Was Right]

I'm curious to see how the carriers in the UK that seemed to have pretty much close to dropped the platform will behave in regards to Mango's release; will they push the update asap or will we be here weeks after wondering where our update is

 

[thirty]

has bing maps improved with mango? so many times I've searched for things while on the road that weren't there on bing maps but was there on Google maps on other's Android phones. so embarrassing when I have to borrow an Android phone to provide directions.

 

[plagiarize]

Oh...well, then that isn't really very clever, no?

wit isn't conscerned with being clever, but timely. if i went off and researched a task manager software for Android, and the correct terminology, and then came back and posted a reply after he'd already left... that might be more factually accurate, but i don't know that i'd call it clever.

 

[Windu]

nokia will apparently be at the build conference this week (13th-15th). Probably just to say, "hey we're still partners!" or something though.

http://www.neowin.net/news/nokia-is-coming-to-build-but-why

 

[Magni]

Now it's not worth it. But when it first became available and even a few weeks after, it absolutely was. Hell, the fact that I demo'd Mango to some family members is the reason 2 of them went WP7 instead of/from iPhone. Of course, I told them Mango wasn't an official release yet. So they'd have to wait.

I was abroad this summer and forgot my sync cable

 

[VanMardigan]

has bing maps improved with mango? so many times I've searched for things while on the road that weren't there on bing maps but was there on Google maps on other's Android phones. so embarrassing when I have to borrow an Android phone to provide directions.

Google Maps is fantastic, one of the benefits of Android (the voice navigation isn't available on iOS). I know there is a gmaps app on the marketplace, it seems pretty competent, but I haven't tested it. The new features for Bing Maps are mostly centered on local, and that's only as good as the users who provide the feedback.

I'm curious to see how the carriers in the UK that seemed to have pretty much close to dropped the platform will behave in regards to Mango's release; will they push the update asap or will we be here weeks after wondering where our update is

You're going to have to wait, it's a near certainty, so brace yourself. Even with AT&T saying in that press release that they were going to get Mango out asap, I don't believe them. These things are almost always much slower than we'd like, which is why I jumped on the beta the second I learned there was a "safe" method that was relatively painless.