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I'm jealous all my family have this cool walkie talkie app (heytel) and the talk to each other over both android and iOS. Anything like it on wp7?
 
Mr. Snrub said:
Any recommendations for a Mint-like budget app? I have PageOnce but its not really a full budget app like Mint.
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I never heard of Mint is it better than PageOnce?

edit: google iPhone version, yeah that would be nice to have on Windows Phone 7
 
There's an update available! Yeah. I have to send in my phone next week, but maybe my YouTube problem will be solved? :o Let's wait and see.
 
antiquegamer said:
. what funny is when I was at At&t store last week the manager was complaining about lack of copy and paste I show him how well it works on my phone. :P
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haha! nicely done

I may have to swing by my store and show them
 
Gamer98 said:
It just says soon, so hopefully in the next couple of weeks.
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I call them about this when they block PageOnce from accessing their website. They just told me it's coming soon but in the mean time please use mobile mode ... (in WA you are not allow to access banking information website via mobile device).

Yeah, since they combine with Merill Lynch their site is even worst.
 
Mr. Snrub said:
Any recommendations for a Mint-like budget app? I have PageOnce but its not really a full budget app like Mint.
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I think Mint is the only app I miss coming from the iPhone. Looks like this is the official reply as it stands, which when posted, was 4 months ago.

Hey guys,

I'm the product manager for Mint.com mobile. I don't want to keep you waiting for something we don't have planned, so to be honest we don't have a Windows compatible app on our roadmap for the near future (i.e. in the next 6 months). Beyond that, our roadmap is undefined. So please do not make your phone decisions based on a slight chance that Mint will be available on it in the future.

Just for background, we released our Android app in May 2010, almost 3 years after the Google Android platform was released and we are still not in the BlackBerry market (with no future plans to develop for that platform). Right now, we're focused on iOS (iPhone, iPad, iPod) and Android.

Aaron Berhanu
Product Manager, Mint.com mobile
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I'd be ok with a mobile version of their full site, but looks like any sort of mobile app will be a long time till it makes it on WP7 if at all.
 
brotkasten said:
Took half a minute to load, but it works.

edit: Change the region on your phone to US and see if the video works.
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Changing the location didn't help last time, but it does now. Wooooho! :)
 
snap0212 said:
Changing the location didn't help last time, but it does now. Wooooho! :)
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Fantastic. Would've sucked had you left the platform over those youtube videos, lol.

So what YouTube app do you guys use? The LazyWorm app has gotten a ton better, but SuperTube is really nice as well. Seems like the YouTube situation has been stitched up pretty nicely from launch, thanks to third party apps.
 
Has there been any word on new Windows Phone devices? I've been dying to have a WP since the day they showed the metro UI for the first time and I patiently waited and didn't upgrade my phone when it came time (I'm on Sprint). Finally they release one for sprint and it's got a slider keyboard which is not my thing. I don't want a phone which is as thick as a tank. I want something thin, streamline, beautiful and Sprints WP is not that.

I'm terribly tempted to get the EVO 3D when it comes out because it's new, slick and shiny but deep down I still would rather get a WP. Has there been ANY news on something cool coming out? A Nokia phone? Maybe an upgrade over the first gen phones which are now looking crappy compared to all the new processors Android phones have in them...

Anything...I just want something to keep hope alive. Then I can keep my crappy Pixi knowing there's smooth sailing ahead.
 
Tapiozona said:
Anything...I just want something to keep hope alive. Then I can keep my crappy Pixi knowing there's smooth sailing ahead.
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There's going to be new hardware in the fall (October or so). That's all we really know right now. There's a new AT&T phone coming up soon, a Verizon HTC phone, and a Dell Venue Pro refresh sometime this summer (but that also has a keyboard and we don't know the carrier). Maybe we'll hear something at Mix, but if you don't like the Arrive, you may need to wait until fall to get your WP7 fix on Sprint most likely.

edit: I just realized your avatar is making me look like an idiot right now, lol.

On another note: I wish there was a way that the stupid 3rd party apps I have blocked on FB, such as fortune cookie and horoscope, would be blocked in my People Hub as well.
 
Tapiozona said:
Has there been any word on new Windows Phone devices? I've been dying to have a WP since the day they showed the metro UI for the first time and I patiently waited and didn't upgrade my phone when it came time (I'm on Sprint). Finally they release one for sprint and it's got a slider keyboard which is not my thing. I don't want a phone which is as thick as a tank. I want something thin, streamline, beautiful and Sprints WP is not that.

I'm terribly tempted to get the EVO 3D when it comes out because it's new, slick and shiny but deep down I still would rather get a WP. Has there been ANY news on something cool coming out? A Nokia phone? Maybe an upgrade over the first gen phones which are now looking crappy compared to all the new processors Android phones have in them...

Anything...I just want something to keep hope alive. Then I can keep my crappy Pixi knowing there's smooth sailing ahead.
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The second gen of WP7 devices are probably coming this fall/holiday, including a phone from Nokia. The first gen hardware platform is definitely dated by today's standards, but that doesn't matter, because the WP7 UI is hardware accelerated and the UI responsiveness is probably one of the best things about WP7. It's just so god damn smooth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77uibQeg6VQ
 
Treo360 said:
Those of us on Chevron some good news (well when it comes out) real multitasking
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I'm waiting for the technical details. If it's using the dehydrate reg hack to instantly resume the apps, then I'm probably going to pass and the apps that would benefit the most from this hack won't work anyway.

edit: Apps are not resuming, but really running in the background. Still, music apps won't work in the background, because the silverlight controls shut down when the app is minimized.

The DehydrateOnPause value controls the operating system’s Dehydration Policy. It can be set to a value ranging from 0 to 3.

0. Don’t dehydrate

1. Forcefully dehydrate

2. Gracefully dehydrate

3. Automatically decide

By default, Windows Phone ships with the Dehydration Policy set to 3. This instructs the task host – again, your application’s container – to gracefully dehydrate when possible. I admittedly don’t fully understand how eligibility is determined, but it appears opt-in is the default. (Some tasks, like the CameraCaptureTask, appear to opt-out.)

For the hackers out there, it appears you can control this behavior. Simply call the aygshell!SHSetAutoDehydratingHostEligibility function with an eligibility set to false to opt-out of dehydration. But you better be damn sure you handle the change in behavior properly (keep reading).

HRESULT SHSetAutoDehydratingHostEligibility(BOOL fEligible);

With the policy value set to 2, the operating system always starts the dehydration process. Differentiating it from forceful dehydration (policy value 1), a Win32 WM_CLOSE window message is sent to the application. In theory, this message could be processed and either ignored or accepted. It’s unclear if this message is simply an advance warning, in which dehydration would still continue, or if dehydration would be aborted.

Set to 0, dehydration is completely disabled. Your application will not terminate unless explicitly stopped. That means, for example, the .NET Framework is never shut down, your class instances aren’t destroyed, native resources left locked, etc. While this sounds great, given .NET Framework spin up is mainly the cause of the infamous resume screen, applications rarely behave properly in this scenario. After all, we were told to save state and abandon ship!

An easy way to see this in action is to create a Silverlight application with a sample page. In the page’s constructor, write some code. Tap the Search button on your phone, then tap the Back button. With dehydration disabled, this class is created once and left behind for re-use when your application resumes. Your constructor will not get called again.

Aside from all the quirks that arise from leaving junk behind, you also increase the chance of hitting out-of-memory (OOM) conditions. And with task host containers cluttering up RAM, their threads eat CPU cycles attributing to unnecessary battery power loss. (Admittedly, I don’t know how much loss we’re talking about here.)

So no, I wouldn’t fiddle with the dehydration policy on your phone.
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A simple app switcher would be enough for me.
 
VanMardigan said:
Fantastic. Would've sucked had you left the platform over those youtube videos, lol.

So what YouTube app do you guys use? The LazyWorm app has gotten a ton better, but SuperTube is really nice as well. Seems like the YouTube situation has been stitched up pretty nicely from launch, thanks to third party apps.
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Yeah, I'm really starting to appreciate the platform for what it is and not what it will be some time in the future. Just switched to a new carrier too. 9.99€ (about $14) a month for unlimited data is a great deal.

I use the Microsoft one and the HTC YouTube App. :-)
 
snap0212 said:
Yeah, I'm really starting to appreciate the platform for what it is and not what it will be some time in the future. Just switched to a new carrier too. 9.99€ (about $14) a month for unlimited data is a great deal.

I use the Microsoft one and the HTC YouTube App. :-)
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The Microsoft one is basically just a link to mobile Youtube.
 
Commodore said:
I think Mint is the only app I miss coming from the iPhone. Looks like this is the official reply as it stands, which when posted, was 4 months ago.

I'd be ok with a mobile version of their full site, but looks like any sort of mobile app will be a long time till it makes it on WP7 if at all.
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Well may be if Windows Phone 7 take off this fall (hope spring eternal, right?) may be they will change their mind or if enough people ask Microsoft they might get someone to port it over. It seems they are doing that with many of the iPhone / android apps.
 
Anybody figure out how to re-unlock the phone after nodo so you can run non marketplace apps? I want to run one of those tile color changer apps but can't seem to get it unlock now that I forced nodo.
 
jagowar said:
Anybody figure out how to re-unlock the phone after nodo so you can run non marketplace apps? I want to run one of those tile color changer apps but can't seem to get it unlock now that I forced nodo.
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NoDo closes the security hole that makes the jailbreak possible. You have to prevent the relock before updating or wait for a new jailbreak.
 
Has the HTC update caused some Windows Phones to go 16 bit?


Santi writes us about a new complaint about a pretty undesirable side-effect of the recent HTC Windows Phone 7 update. He notes some HTC users are reporting color banding/16bit color across the entire OS after the NoDo and/or yesterday’s update.

He notes it seems mainly related to the new firmware FW 2250.09.11001 and FW 2250.09.12000, with the OS version making no difference and is present on the HTC 7 Trophy and also HTC HD7.

Santi has some more pictures of the banding issue which results in his dropbox account here.
To check if your phone is affected, download this image and view it in the Pictures and Videos hub. it should display without banding.

It is normally displayed in 16 bit in the browser, so viewing banding there is not a cause for concern.
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see link for the test pic
 
http://blog.walshie.me/2011/04/08/an-update-on-the-homebrew-update-front/

tl;dr: Do not use my tool to update your phone.

On Monday, I released a homebrew utility that attempted to install unreleased updates to Windows Phone devices. The tool successfully passed my own tests involving multiple update scenarios.

I was later informed by Microsoft that there were several problems with my tool and the manner in which it changes phones.

Despite the fact that all outward signs indicate the phone has been updated to build 7390, Microsoft tells me otherwise. Part of the problem, the company says, is that I incorrectly used an undocumented API to deliver updates.

Most problematic, Microsoft tells me that updating in this manner will place devices in a "non-serviceable state". In its blog post describing the situation, Microsoft instead says devices updated in this manner "may" no longer receive updates

Because the tool is, in Microsoft”s words, "breaking phones", I have taken it offline at their request.

While the number of users impacted by this utility is small, I would at least like to communicate that I”m sorry if this tool causes any issues down the road. In a follow-up post, I’ll detail what your next steps should be as official support isn’t an option at this time.
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I used the Hungarian Server Jedi Trick to update to NoDo, hopefully I'm cool. If not, whatever, the megaminds at XDA will figure it out, it's not like there's an iminent update I need to worry about.
 
Oh Snap!

Well that's suck about Chevron Updater. He didn't really said about what is wrong with it beside that Microsoft "told" him his method "broken" the API.

Seems to me like Microsoft just want him to take it down. Anyway, hope there would be fix for those that use the method soon, I am just wondering if Microsoft tools would work to restore the ROM.

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It seems some people report they still get regular update just fine.

http://www.wpcentral.com/walsh-chevronwp7-updater-and-breaking-phones
 
Again.

"MAY" not receive updates in the future...

Complete horse shit. Remember there is something like 12 months until the next update so it's not a big deal. I'm sure in 12 months there will be a way to get that update too.
 
kazinova said:
Again.

"MAY" not receive updates in the future...

Complete horse shit. Remember there is something like 12 months until the next update so it's not a big deal. I'm sure in 12 months there will be a way to get that update too.
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That's what I thought when I read Chris' blog post.

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kazinova said:
Again.

"MAY" not receive updates in the future...

Complete horse shit. Remember there is something like 12 months until the next update so it's not a big deal. I'm sure in 12 months there will be a way to get that update too.
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What if Mango shows up earlier? :o

NoDo seems to work great for me. I can finally watch YouTube videos (I don't have a TV in my bedroom), browse the marketplace without too much trouble and that's basically all I wanted from this update. :)
 
snap0212 said:
What if Mango shows up earlier? :o

NoDo seems to work great for me. I can finally watch YouTube videos (I don't have a TV in my bedroom), browse the marketplace without too much trouble and that's basically all I wanted from this update. :)
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