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I have an Rogers(Canada) Samsung Focus unlocked. I have 7392 on it, I connected my Mac to Internet yet I can't get any update through WP7 Connector.

Any ideas guys?
 
VanMardigan said:
Wow, Mango is getting seriously glowing reviews. Slate: You Should Get a Windows Phone. Really.

Edit: But like I pointed out above, it doesn't matter how much people seem to like it, nobody wants to buy one. The author says he's not getting one, even though he thinks you should. lol.
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I have a friend who's still on an Android G1 for T-Mobile although his phone isn't properly supported as Google left it like an unloved child. It's been about an year since I unrooted the phone and installed custom ROMs on it. Now, it's acting up again, and I have to find a new ROM.

I told him to get a WP7 phone as an interim phone, but he doesn't seem convinced that WP7 has a future even though he hasn't tried it. He just sees the public fashion perception of a phone as tech knowledge despite the fact that I've helped him through many tech related things for many years. He wants either an Android phone or an iPhone for his next phone since he just bought a Mac for law school.

What WP7 phone is there for T-Mobile and how much is it not on contract?
 
fast app switching is amazing in mangofied apps. Netflix, where's our update? Netflix is so annoying restarting once you've left. hopefully the update happens soon and works like a charm.
 
claviertekky said:
What WP7 phone is there for T-Mobile and how much is it not on contract?
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The HD7, and they just annouced the Radar with Mango...that's all I think.

You can find the HD7 for like $150 on craigslist though.
 
Copernicus said:
The HD7, and they just annouced the Phasar...Photon...something with mango.

You can find the HD7 for like $150 on craigslist though.
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Just read the reviews for the phone on T-Mobile's website.

Wow what a bunch of trolls.
 
T-Mo News review of HD7 + Mango:

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/09/the-tmobile-htc-hd7-windowsphone-mango-review/

I would say that today was a busy twitter day, I was keeping you guys up to date on impressions and there was some tablet released or something. I used turn-by-turn navigation for 30 minutes and slacker for the same amount of time, simultaneously. I kept up multiple text message conversations, and linked them to Facebook chat for 45 minutes. I had some phone calls in there too. I made it until 7:30 PM. Twelve and a half hours, I’m not surprised and I’m not disappointed. That’s a lot of work for it to handle, and it didn’t go very long without me picking it up today. On a normal day I’m sure I can make it to 10 PM, and I’m sure you can too. Helpful hints – Facebook chat wastes your battery very quickly, turn the screen brightness to low, turn on battery saver, increase the time between checking for updates on twitter and e-mail, and (most importantly) set your phone down for an extended period of time.
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Jadedx said:
Mango is slow for you? It is fast for me.
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Not at all, but rendering large sites is slow (see IGN.com), Maps only runs at 30fps, and HD video isn't exactly smooth. The thing is, others have always claimed that this is due to Windows Phones not having dual core CPUs.
 
NotTarts said:
Not at all, but rendering large sites is slow (see IGN.com), Maps only runs at 30fps, and HD video isn't exactly smooth. The thing is, others have always claimed that this is due to Windows Phones not having dual core CPUs.
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What good does HD video do you on a device with a sub HD screen that can't output to a TV?

Anyway, it's probably more a limitation of the gpu and its ability to decode h264 video..

Apparently the Adreno 200 has pretty weak ability to decode HD video.

I found this while snooping around -

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1155360


A dual core phone isn't enough to decode 1080p H264.. yet the galaxy S II can do it thanks to samsung's gpu.
 
Firestorm said:
I'm not sure but they offer a 7 day trial. I don't really want to try the trial just yet though.

http://www.rdio.com/

This is a good comparison (although since then Rdio has released a WP7 app)
http://www.sloanbowman.com/blog/2011/03/01/rdio-vs-zune-pass-what-works-for-me/
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I've been using Rdio and I didn't really like it. One of the reasons I even wanted an music pass type system is to discover new music and I found it very hard to do with Rdio. The biggest thing was not being able to browse by genre. I understand their reasoning for not wanting to include it but most times I just feel like listening to music in a certain mood and browsing by genre is the easiest way to do that.

Also, I only have 1gig of data so streaming to my phone is useless. As far as I know Zune actually downloads music to your phone, you don't need to stream anything.
 
NotTarts said:
Not at all, but rendering large sites is slow (see IGN.com), Maps only runs at 30fps, and HD video isn't exactly smooth. The thing is, others have always claimed that this is due to Windows Phones not having dual core CPUs.
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Ign loads super fast on my focus.
 
Random questions..

1 - Is there a huge difference between 4g and 4g lte?

2 - What carriers provide 4g lte?

3 - Are there any 4g lte compatible windows mobile phones?

So for the most part, the next big hitter coming out is the htc Titan, which is available only for t-mobile right? And What would yall say are the biggest advantages that WM phones have over ios and androids? Sorry for the bombardment, but i wanna take a good look at WM before writing it off, and it's hard finding the info I want out there, thx guys!
 
FindMyFarms said:
Random questions..

1 - Is there a huge difference between 4g and 4g lte?

2 - What carriers provide 4g lte?

3 - Are there any 4g lte compatible windows mobile phones?

So for the most part, the next big hitter coming out is the htc Titan, which is available only for t-mobile right? And What would yall say are the biggest advantages that WM phones have over ios and androids? Sorry for the bombardment, but i wanna take a good look at WM before writing it off, and it's hard finding the info I want out there, thx guys!
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1. Yes. 4G which is HSPA+ has a maximum download speed of 42Mbits/sec, while 4G LTE has a maximum speeds upward to 300Mbits/sec. Tests show that current LTE speeds are around 15Mbits/s - 45Mbits/s compared to 2Mbits/s -15Mbits/s for normal 4G.

2. At this point only ATT and Verizon have 4G LTE available in certain markets. Only 4 of Verizon's phones support LTE. ATT currently has no 4G LTE compatible phones available.

3. No, there are not any WP 4G LTE phones. The upcoming phones like the HTC Titan and Samsung Focus S are 4G only.

Also, the HTC Titan is coming to ATT not T-Mobile. T-Mobile is getting the Radar 4G. As to your other question about WP advantages over IOS and Android, it would be hard for me to answer since the only smartphone I have owned is a Windows Phone.
 
neutralgamer02 said:
1. Yes. 4G which is HSPA+ has a maximum download speed of 42Mbits/sec, while 4G LTE has a minimum of 100Mbits/sec with speeds upward to 300Mbits/sec.

2. At this point only ATT and Verizon have 4G LTE available in certain markets. Only 4 of Verizon's phones support LTE. Not sure about ATT since they just launched theirs recently.

3. No, there are not any WP 4G LTE phones. The upcoming phones like the HTC Titan and Samsung Focus S are 4G only.

Also, the HTC Titan is coming to ATT not T-Mobile. T-Mobile is getting the Radar 4G. As to your other question about WP advantages over IOS and Android, it would be hard for me to answer since the only smartphone I have owned is a Windows Phone.
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So if I'm reading this right, Verizon's 4g network is their 4g lte network, and their 4g lte is limited(as of now) with regards to market coverage correct? So if you're not in a 4g lte area, then you're under 3g use correct? From what I've seen, also verizon is the only carrier that provides phones that support 4g lte? So while att has the network in 5 cities now, none of their smartphones support it?

So what I'm gathering is that 4g lte is awsome, but very limited thus the lack of phones that support it.


hwalker84 said:
its been up for awhile in test. The first Att lte phone comes out soon.
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What phones are they?
 
att just had a test launch. verizon has had theirs up for commercial usage for over a year. theirs covers almost all big cities as of now.
 
Already posted few posts above but I'll re-do it.

I have an Rogers(Canada) Samsung Focus unlocked. I have 7392 on it, I connected my Mac to Internet yet I can't get any update through WP7 Connector.

Any ideas guys?
 
Fuck, the repair shop's 3 hour estimate to replace my screen apparently means they'll send it away without asking me. I won't get my phone back 'till next weekend at the earliest :*(

I'll be borrowing an HTC Touch Diamond until then, has anyone used Windows Mobile 6.5? Is it any good?
 
I cant believe people are discussing high definition video for their mobile phones.
 
FindMyFarms said:
So if I'm reading this right, Verizon's 4g network is their 4g lte network, and their 4g lte is limited(as of now) with regards to market coverage correct? So if you're not in a 4g lte area, then you're under 3g use correct? From what I've seen, also verizon is the only carrier that provides phones that support 4g lte? So while att has the network in 5 cities now, none of their smartphones support it?

So what I'm gathering is that 4g lte is awsome, but very limited thus the lack of phones that support it.




What phones are they?
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You are correct with your above statement. Verizon's LTE is in most major cities, while ATT is only in 5 cities. 4 phones on Verizon support LTE, while ATT has no phones that support their LTE network.

The first phone coming that will support ATT LTE I think is the HTC Holiday. There may be more, but that is the only one I have heard about.
 
giga said:
720P looks leagues better than 480P on an iPhone 4.
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I think its kinda irrelevant considering that the vast majority of data networks struggle (when you get 3G in your area) to playback standard video smoothly much less 720p content.

P.S. I wasn't talking about video playback in general but using the Internet outside and wanting to watch HiDef
 
Meus Renaissance said:
I think its kinda irrelevant considering that the vast majority of data networks struggle (when you get 3G in your area) to playback standard video smoothly much less 720p content.

P.S. I wasn't talking about video playback in general but using the Internet outside and wanting to watch HiDef
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Oh, I was just talking video resolutions in general.

VanMardigan said:
I don't think I'd care either way on a 3.5" screen.
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It matters when there are 600k+ pixels on that 3.5" screen. Non-Retina apps looked horrid to me as well.
 
HTC hub mango update is quite nice. home is the overdone weather animation, now includes stock quotes, and a very nice news reader.
 
ravien56 said:
How is the lg optimis quantum? They sell them here for $78. Might just get that instead of spending 200.
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I bought one for my wife:

Pros:
-It runs Windows Phone 7 (and I forced Mango on my wife's phone without issues) with the smooth performance you'd expect
-LG has a decent Play-To app for DLNA devices
-Good call quality
-3.5" screen makes everything seem sharper than larger screen WP7 devices and is actually very good considering its not SAMOLED or SLCD.


Cons:
-Bulky/heavy compared to the Focus
-Camera isn't as good as Focus
-Power button and volume keys were more difficult to press than they should be
-I didn't really like the keyboard too much.
 
VanMardigan said:
I bought one for my wife:

Pros:
-It runs Windows Phone 7 (and I forced Mango on my wife's phone without issues) with the smooth performance you'd expect
-LG has a decent Play-To app for DLNA devices
-Good call quality
-3.5" screen makes everything seem sharper than larger screen WP7 devices and is actually very good considering its not SAMOLED or SLCD.


Cons:
-Bulky/heavy compared to the Focus
-Camera isn't as good as Focus
-Power button and volume keys were more difficult to press than they should be
-I didn't really like the keyboard too much.
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I heard the mango update allows LG phones to power on/off using the windows start button. is that true?
 
thirty said:
I heard the mango update allows LG phones to power on/off using the windows start button. is that true?
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I'll check when I get home. Also, I want you to know that I went to the AT&T store today and will do so again tomorrow based exclusively on your post that the Focus S may stealth-drop tomorrow. I hope you find some perverse joy in that.

The lady at the store says she was aware of the Galaxy SII dropping tomorrow, but not any other device.
 
giga said:
..l.
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What are your thoughts on Mango (assuming you have it on your phone)

Also, question to everyone, what theme do you use? I use Light + Red
 
Meus Renaissance said:
What are your thoughts on Mango (assuming you have it on your phone)

Also, question to everyone, what theme do you use? I use Light + Red
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Dark + Blue
 
Leaked news about the upcoming Nokia Windows Phone.

"Nokia Ace":

4.3" AMOLED
1800mAh
Carl Zeiss
8mp AF
Windows Phone Mango+
HSPA+ (AT&T/T-Mobile)
CBD
1.4 Ghz processor
16GB internal storage
 
neutralgamer02 said:
Leaked news about the upcoming Nokia Windows Phone.

"Nokia Ace":

4.3" AMOLED
1800mAh
Carl Zeiss
8mp AF
Windows Phone Mango+
HSPA+ (AT&T/T-Mobile)
CBD
1.4 Ghz processor
16GB internal storage
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What's CBD? Is that screen equivalent to one announced for the Samsung Focus S?
 
I'm trying to sync some music and I keep getting an C00D1197 error

the help page says

Playback Error — C00D1197

The Zune software can't find the song or video.

Typically, this error occurs when you try to play a song or video that has been moved, renamed, or deleted from your computer. However, it can also occur when you try to play a song that is stored on a computer or storage device that's not currently available.
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but that's not the problems since it's all stored on my hdd and the Zune software can play the songs.

anyone know what's going on?
 
thirty said:
I heard the mango update allows LG phones to power on/off using the windows start button. is that true?
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On my LG Optimus Quantum:
- Held power button, slide down to turn off, goodbye. Phone is off.
- Held Windows button for 10 seconds. Nothing. Held power button for 2 seconds, boot up.

So apparently not all LG phones.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
What are your thoughts on Mango (assuming you have it on your phone)
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Overall, it's fantastic. If you like the WP7 UI and aesthetic, other than for some specific missing apps (YMMV), there really isn't a reason to pass on it versus the competition anymore. It holds up quite well, and imo gives a better overall experience due to some of the unique features like integrated msn/facebook/etc. Plus the Bing features like local scout, audio tagging, and visual recognition are really coming into their own. Basically it now feels feature complete (at least relative to current mobile standards), and has some unique aspects and aesthetics that help it stand out.

My only real cons right now are:
  • Not as many apps - though this is continuing to improve and the vast majority of big ones are now covered
  • It will take a bit for current apps to be updated to use Mango features (resume, etc). Obviously that's developer dependent though.
  • I personally wish they added more colors for customization
  • Wish you could do more customization like launchers, etc (though this may actually possible with the new SDK? - I'm not sure).
  • Opening up the messaging API so stuff like AIM and Google chat (lol - not happening) would be nice

All and all though, I'm really happy with it. And it will only get better as more apps are updated and new ones hit.

Also, question to everyone, what theme do you use? I use Light + Red
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During the day: Light + Blue

At night: Dark + Red
 
Greyface said:
What's CBD? Is that screen equivalent to one announced for the Samsung Focus S?
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We don't really know..

The Super AMOLED Plus is a samsung-made screen.. itis easier to see in sunlight than regular AMOLED screens and it does not have the pen-tile matrix shortcoming of the previous Super AMOLED screens.

I would be inclined to think that the nokia screen won't be as good.. but until we get to see one, it is hard to say.
 
Robobandit said:
We don't really know..

The Super AMOLED Plus is a samsung-made screen.. itis easier to see in sunlight than regular AMOLED screens and it does not have the pen-tile matrix shortcoming of the previous Super AMOLED screens.

I would be inclined to think that the nokia screen won't be as good.. but until we get to see one, it is hard to say.
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http://mynokiablog.com/2010/11/29/g...etter-sunlight-readability-than-super-amoled/

Assuming the above comparisons are accurate, while it's possible SAMAOLED+ could be tops ... I'd be surprised if it's markedly better. For current displays it looks like CBD is tops, so if anything Samsung is playing catch up. I'd guess that overall they'll be peers if anything.

I just wish Nokia would produce larger displays. After using a Focus for that last year, I cannot see myself going with anything smaller than 4". If anything, I'd consider going even bigger.
 
Stumpokapow said:
On my LG Optimus Quantum:
- Held power button, slide down to turn off, goodbye. Phone is off.
- Held Windows button for 10 seconds. Nothing. Held power button for 2 seconds, boot up.

So apparently not all LG phones.
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Yep, holding the power button down while its on brings up the voice commands, and holding it down while its off does nothing.
 
Jadedx said:
Nope, i was reading an article on wmpu about the new nokia phone with cbd and I thought I would ask.
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:p

Basically, we don't have enough comparisons yet. Assuming the comparison I linked to is legit, CBD is better than SAMOLED. However, SAMOLED+ supposedly addresses at least some of the shortcomings it has versus CBD, so it could be close?

The question is whether the upcoming Nokias use the same generation of displays or a new one. If it is the current, we can compare it to the Galaxy S II's. The issue is, I'm not sure there are too many reliable comparisons out there yet.
 
Raistlin said:
http://mynokiablog.com/2010/11/29/g...etter-sunlight-readability-than-super-amoled/

Assuming the above comparisons are accurate, while it's possible SAMAOLED+ could be tops ... I'd be surprised if it's markedly better. For current displays it looks like CBD is tops, so if anything Samsung is playing catch up. I'd guess that overall they'll be peers if anything.

I just wish Nokia would produce larger displays. After using a Focus for that last year, I cannot see myself going with anything smaller than 4". If anything, I'd consider going even bigger.
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Engadget have comparisons too

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/14/nokia-cbd-vs-apple-retina-fight/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/nokia-cbd-vs-apple-retina-display-fight-part-deux-sunlight-ed/
 
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