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[NeOak]

Had my 830 for a day now. How soon before I can start bitching about not having Lumia Camera 5?

You're late already.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Had my 830 for a day now. How soon before I can start bitching about not having Lumia Camera 5?

I waited 5 months, suck it up, lol.
Hope you get it soon.

 

[juliushandle]

Anyone in the US flash their ATT 830 to the Canadian ROM to force Denim? If so, how did it go?

 

[stktt]

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwi...ws-10-builds-for-phones-for-windows-insiders/

Pretty much every phone but the 930, including the Icon. Why, Joe? Is it because I said snarky things in this thread?

 

[neoanarch]

IE won't login to Youtube for me on Wp 10. Clearing history and files doesn't fix it either.

 

[ChubbleDucks]

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwi...ws-10-builds-for-phones-for-windows-insiders/

Pretty much every phone but the 930, including the Icon. Why, Joe? Is it because I said snarky things in this thread?

A device specific bug is why the 930 is dropped from the list. Shame as the 930 is the device I own.

 

[José Mourinho]

I haven't been paying attention. What form will Windows 10 take on small tablets, 7" and the like, is it supposed to be like an extended phone interface?

 

[killer rin]

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwi...ws-10-builds-for-phones-for-windows-insiders/

Pretty much every phone but the 930, including the Icon. Why, Joe? Is it because I said snarky things in this thread?

Awesome, I can put it on my Lumia 520 which I relegate as a backup/dev device

 

[PG2G]

I haven't been paying attention. What form will Windows 10 take on small tablets, 7" and the like, is it supposed to be like an extended phone interface?

Supposed to be the mobile interface, the 1520 is already close enough at 6 inches

 

[Lichter]

Finally, Lumia 1520 supported. Can't wait.

 

[hwalker84]

Finally, Lumia 1520 supported. Can't wait.

Unless there's massive improvements you probably should. Unless the 1520 isn't your fault driver.

 

[Lichter]

Unless there's massive improvements you probably should. Unless the 1520 isn't your fault driver.

I hope they improved the stability at least.

 

[juliushandle]

Phonearena has the 930/Icon beating out the 6 Plus and the Note 4.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...Galaxy-Note-4-HTC-One-M9-ends-up-last_id67659

Would like a comparison on video as well and the inclusion of both the 1020 and the 830.

 

[José Mourinho]

Phonearena has the 930/Icon beating out the 6 Plus and the Note 4.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...Galaxy-Note-4-HTC-One-M9-ends-up-last_id67659

Would like a comparison on video as well and the inclusion of both the 1020 and the 830.

Must confess I don't think it looks much better in most of those photos. Often worse to be honest.

 

[joshschw]

Must confess I don't think it looks much better in most of those photos. Often worse to be honest.

All their pics are terrible period and there's no real way to compare them anyway.

Day to day the 1520/930 is head and shoulders above any other phonecam after Denim.

 

[MCD]

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/27/8...e-and-calendar-apps-for-w10-desktop-and-phone

I like this.

The most interesting thing about this app design is the use of a combination of pivots and hamburger menus. They explained it in detail during the presentation, here's how it works: When viewing a contact, there are three sections: profile, what's new and history. On the desktop these sections are displayed next to each other (with the history section being hidden away within the what's new section, for whatever reason), on phones these sections are implemented as pivots to swipe through horizontally, very similar to current Windows Phone UIs. The hamburger menu (with the hamburger button located at the top left corner, sadly) contains settings and other menus, and also access to the contact list which is displayed within the hamburger menu UI. On the desktop the hamburger menu is expanded by default, showing the contact list by default. I wonder if hiding the contact list away in the hamburger menu on phones is a good idea.

Additionally the app has app bars that are very similar to those in current Windows Phone apps. They contain icons for actions such as pinning or editing as well as ellipsis buttons ("...") to access additional options. Both the main UI and also the hamburger menu have app bars. On the phone these app bars are on the bottom. On the desktop they are on the top, but not as actual bars that go along the complete top edge of the window, but as collections of buttons on the top of the sections/menus.

Only thing I still don't know why this won't fix is the outdated black background for everything like the settings:

 

[joshschw]

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/27/8...e-and-calendar-apps-for-w10-desktop-and-phone

I like this.

I actually prefer the mystical DOUBLE HAMBURGER on the PC version of the People App

 

[MCD]

double whopper, baby!

there is also "ellipsis" in both. should be hamburgers everywhere.

 

[joshschw]

double whopper, baby!

there is also "ellipsis" in both. should be hamburgers everywhere.

I honestly find the phone design somewhat pleasing except for the random icons and ellipsis on bottom. Just looks so out of place design-wise.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Like the direction they are heading. The people hub needed a fresh look.

 

[lastflowers]

I think it's time joeB tells the world about the people hub. I'm amazed we've gone 5 years. Without tAlking about it

 

[LukasTaves]

I reallyyyyy like those too!

Some pics posted in the comments are also very intriguing.

I liked to hear that MS recommendation was for people to put buttons on the bottom, even when their current mockups have then on top.

Oh, and this was also linked: http://www.tabletowo.pl/2015/03/23/adaptive-ux-kolejne-informacje-o-interfejsie-windowsa-10/

It shows the address bar on bottom for Spartan!

 

[clav]

I think it's time joeB tells the world about the people hub. I'm amazed we've gone 5 years. Without tAlking about it

People will just notice changes just like Windows Phone.

 

[Paganmoon]

I think it's time joeB tells the world about the people hub. I'm amazed we've gone 5 years. Without tAlking about it

You make it sound like MS doesn't know how to market their products, and we all know that's just not true.

 

[Lichter]

It looks great!

 

[f0lken]

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/27/8...e-and-calendar-apps-for-w10-desktop-and-phone

I like this.


Only thing I still don't know why this won't fix is the outdated black background for everything like the settings:

Muthafuking colors! The all white/all black current WP needed desperately colors, just by looking at that blue, the people hub looks more pleasant to the eye

 

[Broman1978]

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwi...ws-10-builds-for-phones-for-windows-insiders/

Pretty much every phone but the 930, including the Icon. Why, Joe? Is it because I said snarky things in this thread?

Any date they will release it?

 

[stktt]

Any date they will release it?

Roughly two weeks from now, according to that post. It needs at least another week of testing.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

I'm hoping stability in the next build improves as well as the start screen lag.

 

[VanMardigan]

Phonearena has the 930/Icon beating out the 6 Plus and the Note 4.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...Galaxy-Note-4-HTC-One-M9-ends-up-last_id67659

Would like a comparison on video as well and the inclusion of both the 1020 and the 830.

The 1020 would win, the 830 can't touch the top tier phones in camera quality. Pretty much it's 1020, then 930, then ip6 plus/Note 4 (with the note being slightly better), then everyone else. That's the truth. I like these blind tests because it takes the fanboy factor away. The verge can claim the iPhone takes better pictures until the cows come home, but it doesn't win these blind tests because the reality distortion field don't work in them.

 

[Heretic]

I'm hoping stability in the next build improves as well as the start screen lag.

Go get a Sony phone if you want stability updates...

 

[juliushandle]

The 1020 would win, the 830 can't touch the top tier phones in camera quality. Pretty much it's 1020, then 930, then ip6 plus/Note 4 (with the note being slightly better), then everyone else. That's the truth. I like these blind tests because it takes the fanboy factor away. The verge can claim the iPhone takes better pictures until the cows come home, but it doesn't win these blind tests because the reality distortion field don't work in them.

Honestly, in daylight, all top camera phones are equal. Turn the lights off though and that's when Pureview phones show superiority.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Go get a Sony phone if you want stability updates...

Lol

 

[VanMardigan]

Honestly, in daylight, all top camera phones are equal

Nope. No. Maybe in Facebook or when looking at a photo on your phone, but I pull the images up on my tv or my PC monitor and the differences are obvious between a 1020 shot and other phones. Much more detail, much richer colors.

 

[Broman1978]

Roughly two weeks from now, according to that post. It needs at least another week of testing.

Ok thanks=)

 

[LukasTaves]

I actually prefer the mystical DOUBLE HAMBURGER on the PC version of the People App

Second one doesn't look like a hamburger to me, it's more like the select icon, but with dots instead of checks.

 

[stktt]

Yeah, some people just have hamburgers on the brain.

 

[Damon Bennet]

I feel super tech illiterate buy what exactly is a hamburger 🍔 menu? I just have no idea at all.

 

[José Mourinho]

I feel super tech illiterate buy what exactly is a hamburger 🍔 menu? I just have no idea at all.

The three horizontal lines parallel to one another. Looks a bit like a hamburger.

 

[VanMardigan]

Any word on a Sling tv app?

 

[juliushandle]

One thing I don't like about the 830 is the USB port on top. My hair strands seem to get caught in the port and tugs on my hair after phone calls. The frame of the phone barely fits the 3.5mm headphone jack. I can see why Apple has moved on to the 2.5mm size.

edit: Inexpensive caps found.

 

[Tablo]

One thing I don't like about the 830 is the USB port on top. My hair strands seem to get caught in the port and tugs on my hair after phone calls. The frame of the phone barely fits the 3.5mm headphone jack. I can see why Apple has moved on to the 2.5mm size.

edit: Inexpensive caps found.

Wat... apple still uses a 3.5mm audio jack lol

 

[NeOak]

My hair strands seem to get caught in the port and tugs on my hair after phone calls.]

WTF?

That's your hair.

 

[Funky Papa]

I was gifted a "universal" (cabled) selfie stick.

It doesn't work with Windows Phone.

 

[runningjoke]

I was gifted a "universal" (cabled) selfie stick.

It doesn't work with Windows Phone.

The cable plugs into the headphone jack? The button is basically the button you get with earbuds, on android it'll work as a shutter button when the camera app is active. It doesn't on WP.

 

[Funky Papa]

The 1020 would win, the 830 can't touch the top tier phones in camera quality. Pretty much it's 1020, then 930, then ip6 plus/Note 4 (with the note being slightly better), then everyone else. That's the truth. I like these blind tests because it takes the fanboy factor away. The verge can claim the iPhone takes better pictures until the cows come home, but it doesn't win these blind tests because the reality distortion field don't work in them.

The 1020 is still a class of its own. I feel like white balance is still kinda shit (a common occurrence with the Lumia family of devices) and the camera app is still the slowest of the bunch even updated to the latest version, but some times megapixels matter.

You just can't touch that sensor. And both OIS and sound recording are godly.

With that said, the 830's camera stands VERY favourably against phones in the same tier. While it can't compete against the iPhone 6, it definitely kills any other midweighter.

The cable plugs into the headphone jack? The button is basically the button you get with earbuds, on android it'll work as a shutter button when the camera app is active. It doesn't on WP.

Yarp.

 

[Nero3000]

I was gifted a "universal" (cabled) selfie stick.

It doesn't work with Windows Phone.

Take that as a blessing in disguise. Use the stick to beat the person who got it for you.

 

[hadareud]

Take that as a blessing in disguise. Use the stick to beat the person who got it for you.

To death.

 

[brotkasten]

I was gifted a "universal" (cabled) selfie stick.

It doesn't work with Windows Phone.

I hope you (didn't) use(d) the stick to beat that person up. Not that I'd judge you.

 

[Funky Papa]

It was a corporate gift.

It would look bad on my resume.