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Windows Phone 8.1 |OT| Update 1
- Thread starter brotkasten
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Android should be easy since it is based on Java and open source?
Just drop the APK on Onedrive from the PC and install it on the phone, seems easy enough
Just need and easy way to get all those APK
It's not like Amazon or any other third party can "open" a store front since WP is locked, unlike Android where anyone can "open" a store
Just drop the APK on Onedrive from the PC and install it on the phone, seems easy enough
Just need and easy way to get all those APK
It's not like Amazon or any other third party can "open" a store front since WP is locked, unlike Android where anyone can "open" a store
Anton Sugar
Member
Don't stop believin'
Sorry
I mean, I saw your post and immediately went to Twitter to check for myself. Too good to be true. SOMEDAY!
I don't think they want to have any ARM devices above 7.99" running Windows Mobile. Unless you read something indicating otherwise?
There's currently not enough information to figure out exactly how it will work. But from what I understand, you take your Android app code, add some Windows specific stuff like a live tile and Cortana integration and you're good to go.
https://dev.windows.com/en-US/uwp-bridges/project-astoria
Albert Shum* blog post about evolving the design for Windows 10 for phones is up
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/04/29/windows-10-design-getting-the-balance-right/
Good, so it's still up to app devs to actually do something to get it to work on WP.
CaptainABAB
Member
I'm going to try to be optimistic but let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
There are now multiple "options" but there is NO universal app that works across all platforms.
Option 1: Take an Objective-C iOS project and compile/port for Universal Windows Apps
- This doesn't provide a solution for Android, not sure about xb1
Option 2: Take an Android APK and publish to the Windows Phone Store unmodified (or with some changes - still unclear)
- This doesn't provide a solution for iOS, Windows10 desktop/tablet or xbox1 (my understanding is that this approach doesn't work with mouse/keyboard so it is limited to Windows Mobile only, aka ARM phones. Verified in the link below: "build apps using Android code to target Windows 10 phones without having to leave your Android IDE")
- This approach does not support 100 % of the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) and Google Mobile Services (GMS) APIs
Option 3: Write a Windows Universal App and target Win Phone/Tablet and possibly xbox1
- This doesn't provide a solution for iOS or Android
- Waiting for details on how universal apps work on xbox1
- How do touch-based apps map to xb1 controller inputs?
Option 4: Use Apache Cordova to make a "web" app that runs on each platform.
And even with the above approaches, I have many, many questions: what limitations are there, API support, platform-specific changes required, changes to handle the different resolutions/screen sizes/inputs, etc.
More info: https://dev.windows.com/en-US/uwp-bridges
Hmmmm
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/04/29/windows-10-design-getting-the-balance-right/
Edit: Damn I'm super slow... But at least I brought pictures!
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/04/29/windows-10-design-getting-the-balance-right/
Edit: Damn I'm super slow... But at least I brought pictures!
Nothing i have read specifically. Just that we know Surfce RT/2 will be updated to something, and it seems like with continuum for phones, we have something semi-useful to update to (W10 universal app compatibility, Edge etc.)
Always love stuff like this:
Screen cap from Windows 10 Highlights Reel
Photography site 500px abandoning Windows Phone and Windows 8.1 apps
Screen cap from Windows 10 Highlights Reel
Photography site 500px abandoning Windows Phone and Windows 8.1 apps
lastflowers
Banned
José Mourinho
cocknose
Balls to Snapchat and their app. Blocked my account for using 3rd party solutions when they wouldn't provide their own. I'll not be going near it if it comes. I know many will, but I'm going be defiant. Not that they'll care.
So far, MS is going all in so might as well do with this one.
Been pissed about their latest attitude but can't say I am not quite pleased with today's news.
Just please announce a real phone.
Yes you can.
killer rin
Member
They completely flipped the format from last year. So I think tomorrow they are going to be going into the more technical parts of the Windows stuff. New APIs, New Developer Control Panels, How the Android/iOS stuff works. That kind of stuff.
Maybe some more Azure stuff as well.
That's a really good question now they there's a free version of visual studio
I thought everyone could make them, but if you wanted to create games with Xbox Live features you had to apply for ID@Xbox.
Also:
Sky Interloper
Member
I have to say I really liked the keynote, but something wasn't clear enough to me. It seems like Objective-C apps have to be recompiled, but Android apps are in some sort of privileged VM. Have they explained this difference or did I understand something wrong.
Regardless of that, Hololens and Mobile Continuum were some of the highlights of the keynote. So Microsoft, just get with the program and give me my flagship x86 Lumia.
Regardless of that, Hololens and Mobile Continuum were some of the highlights of the keynote. So Microsoft, just get with the program and give me my flagship x86 Lumia.
lastflowers
Banned
There's going to be more tomorrow/rest of Build regarding Astoria, though I'm not sure what they're talking about.
juliushandle
Member
Well, can't expect people in the industry to use low/mid range phones.Also:
But the 640 XL just launched. Don't you want that?
My speculation on the Android thing:
I imagine that while the layer embedded in the OS is capable of running any old APK - so long as it only uses standard Android API's - the idea is that developers will enhance their android apps with Windows phone features such as live tiles, etc...
Once they see that there's a WP following and the apps do well the point is that they will make a real Windows Universal app. I have doubts that the end game for Microsoft is to just run Android apps on windows mobile devices.
as for iOS, the idea is that developers will port stuff easily, and they will adapt UI and other things since that's not all that complicated. Leave it simple, but still get high quality apps. I hope so anyway. I am much more excited for the iOS portion of todays news than running hastily scrapped together Android APK's. Any impressions on performance?
Think it's very cool that lastflowers is working on such a major feature. Must be crazy seeing all the big online articles about the speculation over the last year!!
4 columns. SUCKS.
I imagine that while the layer embedded in the OS is capable of running any old APK - so long as it only uses standard Android API's - the idea is that developers will enhance their android apps with Windows phone features such as live tiles, etc...
Once they see that there's a WP following and the apps do well the point is that they will make a real Windows Universal app. I have doubts that the end game for Microsoft is to just run Android apps on windows mobile devices.
as for iOS, the idea is that developers will port stuff easily, and they will adapt UI and other things since that's not all that complicated. Leave it simple, but still get high quality apps. I hope so anyway. I am much more excited for the iOS portion of todays news than running hastily scrapped together Android APK's. Any impressions on performance?
Think it's very cool that lastflowers is working on such a major feature. Must be crazy seeing all the big online articles about the speculation over the last year!!
4 columns. SUCKS.
Astral/H3X
Member
Looks like they'll be doing hamburger vs pivot on a case by case basis, depending on which works better for that task on that device. Which I like.
Steelyuhas
Member
It sounds more similar to how Amazon is forking Android apps, which from what I understand works fine. It's just that Amazon phones makes Windows Phone look like the greatest success story of all time.
hankster
Member
'merica: Where? I have an 830 but there's something about that matte orange... oh and it has effing denim!
killer rin
Member
Damn, Just logged into the Windows Dev center and I love the new layout. It doesn't have everything yet, but Its a great start. Love that they took the Windows Phone Dev Dashboard layout instead of the old Windows 8 Dev Dashboard layout which looked 10 years old and was annoying to use.
Bring on BUILD, this is your last chance MS (as far as I'm concerned anyways)
Let's just say this was a good first day
I'm just sad that I wasn't able to buy a ticket in time and had to watch it from the office instead.Hoping to see Visual Studio on OS X soon, to make it even easier to switch from an iOS project in Xcode to a WP project in VS.
Steelyuhas
Member
They've been strangely quiet about messaging since they briefly teased it the January announcement. They mentioned messaging for Windows 8 before it came out and we still don't have it.
Seems especially crazy considering the pretty great iOS/OSX implementation of that has been out for a while...
They did demo wechat having phone/desktop sync through universal app. Having any app developer being able to do that definitely trumps what Apple is doing now.
Yeah, but I still need SMS/MMS over cellular, which is much more important than any app.
Steelyuhas
Member
CaptainABAB
Member
LOL, tweet deleted!
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
So, uh. Is there any hope for new devices today? Or is it going to be about dorky cloudy stuff for all the eggheads out there?
sorry
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I didn't hear this. That is cool and is something I've wanted on Xbox. "Hulu Plus Play Seinfeld".
José Mourinho
cocknose
I did unblock it and then it was blocked again, I believe permanently, for repeated use of 6snap.