Yeah, they are certainly at the point of time where the base is in place and they just need to update the face.
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Yeah, they are certainly at the point of time where the base is in place and they just need to update the face.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
When you see the exact same interface for years, well, yeah, especially when other apps are starting to...look different.
If metro is old, what does that make ios?
brotkasten
Member
We've had proto-Metro since 2009 and the official one since 2010. That's half a decade of a user interface. It's old.
iOS had a complete visual refresh not that long ago.
Yet its still the same thing. You have a bunch of icons against a wall paper. The settings menu is more or less the same. I would call it a facelift at best. They went from shiny, drop shadowed, heuristic icons, to flat designed icons. Big whoop.
brotkasten
Member
And how exactly did the WIndows Phone home screen evolve after 5 years? We have not only large tiles now, but also very large ones. Big whoop.
e: Oh! Oh! Oh! And we have now transparent tiles, like in those shitty mockups everyone* hated in 2010. Double big whoop.
*not everyone
Speaking of these very large tiles. Do only certain apps support them, because I haven't seen the option to make them that size on any of the apps I have resized.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Windows 10 Mobile looks refreshing in comparison.
Though, I think I might to have to get used to Windows Phone 7, 8.0, and early 8.1 apps looking really off compared to later 8.1 and 10 apps on my phone.
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Steelyuhas
Member
Is this the time where we bring up the gutter?
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I must not understand software, because I still don't know how windows 10 is going to launch at the end of this month, it's all kinds of janky. The phone build looks like a 2016 product.
brotkasten
Member
It doesn't. It launches after the desktop version.
Damon Bennet
Member
I think he means windows 10 desktop when talking about jankyness.
Windows 10 desktop has been rock solid for the last three builds though. They will easily hit their target.
Anton Sugar
Member
W10 desktop is definitely much better, but my SP3 still gets oven-hot, "system" process uses 500-900mb at any given time, Edge uses 2-3x the memory of Chrome (with 10 extensions), and there are soooooo many UI inconsistencies.
Otherwise, I actually really like it.
Otherwise, I actually really like it.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Yeah, janky maybe wasn't the right word, I mainly meant bugs and visual inconsistencies, although performance was spotty as well. Ran great overall, but it's stutters and freezes occasionally.
Edit: also the Xbox music update for Android was nice. Onedrive music, so I get to listen to the Beatles on my S6. Sweet.
Edit: also the Xbox music update for Android was nice. Onedrive music, so I get to listen to the Beatles on my S6. Sweet.
You're forgetting about that extra tile row we got with 8.1
José Mourinho
cocknose
I've been running the various builds of 10 on the admittedly low, low speced HP Stream 7 because I dare not but it on the Surface 3 or XPS yet, but rock solid is not how I'd describe it. It's really picked up these last few weeks and I'm sure the release build will be even better. But as of 10166 I still feel like it has quite a way to go.
According to the reports, they're choosing to make around 2 flagships phones for each segment. They're dedicating one third of their models to a miniscule segment. If that doesn't tell you they're not really thinking this through or taking this seriously I don't know what is.
If we're talking metro, in 5 years, it's had some minor changes, compared to iOS start/main screen that's... gotten a flat design? in 10 years? Come on...
But metro is old...
There shouldn't be change, for changes sake, it's a great interface, I'm all for minor tweaks, but why do an overhaul? Metro is probably the biggest reason I like the OS so much.
frontieruk
Member
You mean like the NHS and private education sectors in the UK who are binning their BES in favour of Exchange and are finding that giving users low end Lumias as work devices have been increasing productivity as documents are being reviewed and updated on the go?
Its surprising how many iPhone users are finding the 635 a wonderful little device. They aren't for everyone but ms discounting for enterprise and getting devices in peoples hands will influence enterprises decisions on in house app support.
What frontier said. I don't think this is a minuscule segment at all, it's a really important segment for them.
Also, I doubt that there will be an actual business phone. It will most likely just be a case of once you link your phone to your work account, it will receive additional enterprise tools etc.
Like I said the other day, the way I translate their memos is that there will be 3 groups of phone, low end, mid-range and flagship (+ possibly a niche device every now and then). They should all be capable of being business phones, but for the most part, mid-range and low-end will be the ones that will be most used for this.
Well it is old now. It does feel dated in places. 4, 5 years are a long time.
It needed refreshing and I'm quite starting to like where they are going. I think the new apps are a massive step forward both in design and usability. Hamburger vs. ellipses and all.
Compare the outlook app with the old mail app - it's a massive step forward. It's still quite minimalist and does have metro elements in there. Or the MSN apps, again they are so much nicer to use than the old ones and they look a lot nicer, too.
There's still some way to go on the people app and some other things too, don't get me wrong.
That's not to say that everything about Metro is outdated, old and shit. Far from it, I loved it and it is what brought me to Windows Phone.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
I still cant mute text messaging sound, its on vibrate and ringer is off. Microsoft I am out of energy now, you win. Fucking hell, what the fuck is this shittttttttttttttt
Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
I am listening to music texting with someone and I do not want to be interrupted with the sound. Is this too much fucking thing to ask? God fucking damn it...mother fuckkkkk
Fuckkkkking helllllll
This and shitty media app sometimes makes me wonder that is it really the biggest software company in the world making this OS or its out sourced.
Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
I am listening to music texting with someone and I do not want to be interrupted with the sound. Is this too much fucking thing to ask? God fucking damn it...mother fuckkkkk
Fuckkkkking helllllll
This and shitty media app sometimes makes me wonder that is it really the biggest software company in the world making this OS or its out sourced.
The ringer volume is not controlling text message notification sounds? You on Win10? That sounds like a defect.
Yeah I'm hoping that gets added in soon.
Kinky John
Member
Photosynth, MSN Food & Drink, Health & Fitness and Travel apps all getting their throats slit.
brotkasten
Member
I'm sure it was a tough decision.
E: wasn't health and fitness their step counting app and all that? Kinda like Google Fit, but better?
Thought that was Microsoft Health.
Anton Sugar
Member
What a waste.
I think Health & Fitness is the step counting app, and the MS Band has a different app for all that other stuff.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Anyone wanna bet that there'll be a replacement tracking app on Windows 10?
I am sure - Step counting is big with most people.
But, this is their issue again and again, if they want to announce they are nixing the current app, they have to announce a new one coming at the SAME TIME.
When Google re-did their whole Photos subsystem, they didn't announce three months prior they were killing the old one!
Why.jpg
So that's the type of tweets I'm blocked from seeing.
All Windows exclusive apps are getting killed. Got to make the move to iOS easy.
I wonder how they will take down Rudy Huyn.
José Mourinho
cocknose
I liked the Health and Fitness app. Shame.
What I don't get about Microsoft Health, vs health and fitness app is, why separate the two? I mean even the fitbit app is usable without a fitbit tracker. Why would Microsoft block regular tracking in MS Health?
Also, I can't seem to get the headset I got with the Lumia 1020 (the official boxed one), to work with my 640, I plug it in, and when I play music it comes out of the phone speakers, it's not detected at all. Same with an off-brand headset I have.
My Sennheiser on-ear headphones work without a problem though. Anyone else get this issue?
Mine won't go past the setup if I don't connect it to a MS Band though. Also, I just got an update for Health and Fitness, so it's not completely killed off.
Also, I can't seem to get the headset I got with the Lumia 1020 (the official boxed one), to work with my 640, I plug it in, and when I play music it comes out of the phone speakers, it's not detected at all. Same with an off-brand headset I have.
My Sennheiser on-ear headphones work without a problem though. Anyone else get this issue?
Mine won't go past the setup if I don't connect it to a MS Band though. Also, I just got an update for Health and Fitness, so it's not completely killed off.
And on the topic of Windows 10 Mobile. Why is "in place upgrade" even an option? I decided to try Windows 10 on my Lumia 1020 now that I'm running the 640 as my daily driver, and it's freaking unusable, it takes 3 seconds for it to expand a grouped tile. Going to play with it a bit and to a factory reset, to see if it gets better. But if it does (as I expect), it really makes you wonder why they even have the option available. Just force a reset, at least you can actually use the phone then.
Just installed it, right on bottom....
App doesn't seem as nice or intuitive as Health & Fitness though.
edit: it also doesn't work. MS Health is a disaster of an app too, forget "not as good" lol
Ugly, confusing, etc...
Huh, how about that.... Can you hide those on screen buttons? I get the feeling it's cut off... (don't worry, things get cut off left and right on my tablet with Win10, it's the cool new thing)
Gimme gimme
José Mourinho
cocknose
So can I not track a run on MS Health without a Band?
LukasTaves
Member
Wut? Nooooo
I love the food and drink app, I moved all my receipts from onenote to it