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Windows Phone 8.1 |OT| Update 1
- Thread starter brotkasten
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Because the phone keeps restarting and dropping connection with the PC.
Yeah, of course, I wasn't very clear in my post, sorry. should've been more clear I meant, that Astoria hasn't been working great for everyone, so really nothing can be said just cause the forums are quiet about it.
Yeah pretty much.
Hmmm.
Can you switch off the phone completely (keep holding the power button) and then try to enter recovery mode (Power+Volume down and then volume down on vibrate)?
I've had a constantly restarting phone a couple of updates ago, but I did manage to get it into recovery mode eventually that way. It might take a few tries.
Hmmm.
Can you switch off the phone completely (keep holding the power button) and then try to enter recovery mode (Power+Volume down and then volume down on vibrate)?
I've had a constantly restarting phone a couple of updates ago, but I did manage to get it into recovery mode eventually that way. It might take a few tries.
I've tried it but it just goes back into the loop. I'll keep trying I guess and hope for the best.
Yes, the inconsistency shouldn't be there, but you can scroll the letters up, not sure why you are saying you have to select something you don't want to.
Good stuff!
You don't have to, but it's easy to hit the wrong thing if you have fat sausage fingers.
You don't have to, but it's easy to hit the wrong thing if you have fat sausage fingers.
Oh, lol
LukasTaves
Member
I reverted to win 8.1 waiting for a build stable enough to get back to 10. Now that it seems this build have arrived, I can't install it, there's a message saying they tried installing from the SD card but an error happened. 
Don't punish me MS, I swear i'll never revert back to w8.1 again.
Don't punish me MS, I swear i'll never revert back to w8.1 again.
juliushandle
Member
any impressions on bluetooth with the new build? particularly in a car; how quickly it pairs, overall performance?
I reverted to win 8.1 waiting for a build stable enough to get back to 10. Now that it seems this build have arrived, I can't install it, there's a message saying they tried installing from the SD card but an error happened.
Don't punish me MS, I swear i'll never revert back to w8.1 again.
I had that problem. Took the SD card out and tried again, kept complaining about space. I cleared a lot of space, it kept complaining about space. I put the SD card back in and tried again and it worked, weird
Certainly pairs quicker with my headset than a few builds ago.
Not using it in my car though.
juliushandle
Member
BTW, i'm going to try out the Hololens next week. i honestly have no expectations.
brotkasten
Member
Just tell us how big the mail slot view is.
New build seems much more responsive, at least for now, lets see if it degrades with time.
Mail app has a bit of a lagg though, tapping to select a mail seems a bit slow, but it could be an issue with my screen (it's shattered after all).
But the store loads quick, and apps start without much issue.
Still won't put it on my daily driver (mostly as I don't want to redo all my authenticators). Will wait for 950 before running it as a daily driver.
Mail app has a bit of a lagg though, tapping to select a mail seems a bit slow, but it could be an issue with my screen (it's shattered after all).
But the store loads quick, and apps start without much issue.
Still won't put it on my daily driver (mostly as I don't want to redo all my authenticators). Will wait for 950 before running it as a daily driver.
LukasTaves
Member
I did all that and now it seems it installed, however, when my phone boots after the windows logo I got only a black screen as if the device was turned off. The only thing that works is the reset gesture, but it only takes me to the boot and then to the blank screen again.
Edit: I took the sd card out and it booted. I'm thinking that's a bad sign XD
I think they mentioned a known issue where a blank can last for up to 5 minutes after updating to this build. Let it sit and they say it is good to go afterwards.
yankeehater
Member
yankeehater
Member
I have been trying to use a custom ringtome of my phone for days now and I just looked online and people are saying that with windows 10 mobile the format has to be m4r. Is this true, and why would they stop supporting mp3's?
NeOak
Member
830 due to having a newer SoC IMO, and wireless charging.
Nikodemos
Member
I can get a charging sleeve for the 925 on the cheap. I was under the impression that the SoC inside it, despite being older, is slightly better due to a more powerful GPU and beefier Krait cores (as opposed to the bog-standard Cortex-A7s in the 830).
The newer 4-core phones run better over the older ones though.
Don't look at benchmarks.
better performance, battery, and everything.
Nikodemos
Member
Sadly, I'm half a world away. If it has custom Verizon or AT&T stuff on top of Windows, that's basically a no-go.
I'm somewhat aware of that. My Xperia M2 (same SD400 as the 830) is supposed to be completely incompatible with WoT Blitz, but I can play it just fine (at minimum detail, however), with the only issue being sometimes freezing on exit (necessitating a soft reset).
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Windows phone isn't Android, you can delete any carrier app. All you have to find out is if the radios work where you live, and then the phone would have to be unlocked.
brotkasten
Member
Get the 830, if only for the 12-18 months software support it got left in it. Hopefully.
runningjoke
Member
Went from a 925 to an 830, I'd say get the 830. Device looks better, screen isn't pentile, has SD slot, Bluetooth 4.0, apps may be a bit smoother? 925 has clearblack tho
So does the 830
Is in a known bug in Windows 10 that edge will not import favorites or use favorites from your live account??
I have a sync favorites toggle that I cannot change from off in a red text that said I must be signed in for this feature and I am signed in with a live account on my phone.
Also, when will we be able to sync web pages between Windows 10 in edge?
I have a sync favorites toggle that I cannot change from off in a red text that said I must be signed in for this feature and I am signed in with a live account on my phone.
Also, when will we be able to sync web pages between Windows 10 in edge?
LukasTaves
Member
It was blank for more than 3 hours XD
After removing the sdcard it did finished, but no app would open (not even the settings app). After a couple resets the built in apps started opening and I end up hard resetting, I think it's all fine now, except for the whole "store don't update apps in background" that was always the issue for me.
This build is indeed way faster, at least initially. Skype still isn't integrated on either the phone or people app to me, but there are updates pending, so fingers crossed!
lastflowers
Banned
why do I even bother going to the verge anymore? I check once a week or so and will occasionally read a review. I think these people seriously live on a different planet than I do.
runningjoke
Member
Fake clearblack then, the whole screen turns grey when one pixel has to light up. The 925 didn't do that
I loved their apple TV review, they gave it a 9.0 due to potential lol.
brotkasten
Member
That's because the 925 has an OLED screen.
Haha, Terrible....
LukasTaves
Member
I was a non believer, but damn, Ms really did it. This new build is incredible and feels really close to final. And they still have time to polish it even further.
Lol
Steelyuhas
Member
Getting an update error in the settings menu while prepping to update to 10581 from 10572, tried it a couple of times. Anyone else have an issue?
I'm in not rush tbh, 10572 has been great on my 1520.
I'm in not rush tbh, 10572 has been great on my 1520.
Yep. Clear Black is just a polarising filter essentially. The true blacks is as Brot said.
Ok folks, tell me if I'm insane or just too invested in the Microsoft kool-aid after working there for 7 years but...
What the fuck is up with all the admiration of Macbook keyboards and trackpads?
I mean, yeah the trackpads are great, and OS X handles them well, but I've used them extensively in the past and tried them again today in the Apple Store just to make sure I remembered correctly. I seriously don't see them as being any better than the best Windows laptop trackpads. Especially not the Surface Book or the Type Cover 4. The latest Type Cover and the Surface Book have incredible trackpads with zero latency. The macbooks I tried (Pro, Air, and the new piece of shit) all have a tiny bit of perceptible latency.
Two-finger scrolling is more consistent in OS X, but in native Windows apps (especially Edge and such) there's no difference between Macbook trackpads and Windows trackpads on the latest Type Cover and in the Book.
But the keyboards? Holy shit, the keyboards. The Air and Pro have good keyboards, but they're hardly worth the endless admiration and default "best" status that tech blogs treat them as having.
But the new piece of shit 12-inch Macbook? Good lord. Holy fucking shit. That is THE WORST FUCKING LAPTOP KEYBOARD I'VE EVER USED. It's worse than the first Type Cover for the first Surface. It's practically no better than the touch cover. I cannot believe that The Verge has the fucking gall to write some bullshit forced admiration like this about that god damned piece of fucking shit keyboard
I used the Type Cover 3 has my main work keyboard for 18 months and it's a billion times better than the 12-inch Macbook keyboard. I never want to be in the same room with that piece of shit ever in my life.
Anyway, just a random late-night rant after an otherwise awesome day! <3 you all
What the fuck is up with all the admiration of Macbook keyboards and trackpads?
I mean, yeah the trackpads are great, and OS X handles them well, but I've used them extensively in the past and tried them again today in the Apple Store just to make sure I remembered correctly. I seriously don't see them as being any better than the best Windows laptop trackpads. Especially not the Surface Book or the Type Cover 4. The latest Type Cover and the Surface Book have incredible trackpads with zero latency. The macbooks I tried (Pro, Air, and the new piece of shit) all have a tiny bit of perceptible latency.
Two-finger scrolling is more consistent in OS X, but in native Windows apps (especially Edge and such) there's no difference between Macbook trackpads and Windows trackpads on the latest Type Cover and in the Book.
But the keyboards? Holy shit, the keyboards. The Air and Pro have good keyboards, but they're hardly worth the endless admiration and default "best" status that tech blogs treat them as having.
But the new piece of shit 12-inch Macbook? Good lord. Holy fucking shit. That is THE WORST FUCKING LAPTOP KEYBOARD I'VE EVER USED. It's worse than the first Type Cover for the first Surface. It's practically no better than the touch cover. I cannot believe that The Verge has the fucking gall to write some bullshit forced admiration like this about that god damned piece of fucking shit keyboard
I used the Type Cover 3 has my main work keyboard for 18 months and it's a billion times better than the 12-inch Macbook keyboard. I never want to be in the same room with that piece of shit ever in my life.
Anyway, just a random late-night rant after an otherwise awesome day! <3 you all
LukasTaves
Member
Apple trackpads are indeed good, but they are still trackpads, still sucks compared to even cheap terrible mouses, and for gestures a mouse and a touch screen are so much better.
Imo, this obsession with the tech media on them is just them stretching reality to fit in their agenda, so they won't acknowledge the existence of anything better to use than trackpads, and will overstate their quality to the max, so in their minds, there's always something that an apple device is the best of all and other devices shall be compared in this very arbitrary metric and deemed not as good.
Imo, this obsession with the tech media on them is just them stretching reality to fit in their agenda, so they won't acknowledge the existence of anything better to use than trackpads, and will overstate their quality to the max, so in their minds, there's always something that an apple device is the best of all and other devices shall be compared in this very arbitrary metric and deemed not as good.
n64coder
Member
I haven't used the Mac trackpad extensively but from the limited time I spent with it, it seems to do a better job at detecting false touching. It annoys me when I'm typing on the keyboard and the bottom of my thumb touches the keypad and causes the cursor to move. It doesn't seem to happen with the Mac trackpad as best I can tell. It happens occasionally with my SP3 Pro but a lot less than the Sony Vaio I had before.
Does anyone else gave this experience?
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
This is the case with the iPhone camera. I'm telling you folks, don't believe the hype. Those cameras have never been better than lumia cameras and this year they were overtaken by the cameras on top tier Android phones. The iPhone 6s, the small model, is the tech press' dirty little secret. Every time you see an iPhone camera reference, people are talking about the Plus model. Then the common thinking is that the smaller model is just as good save for lack of ois. Bull. It's mediocre, it's not top tier. My wife went from a galaxy s6 to an iPhone 6s and she complains about how bad both the front and back camera were compared to the galaxy. I thought she was exaggerating, so we did comparisons. It's mediocre. My LG G4 beats it, my 930 beats it. Don't believe the tech press hype, because all of it refers to the Plus version.
The Macbook keyboard is vastly overrated. I can see why people coming from cheap Windows notebooks appreciate them, but I'll happily stick with my Thinkpad. It's not just the feel of pressing they keys, either. I like my separate backspace and delete keys.
As for trackpads, the Macbook trackpads are still superior to most (if not all) Windows trackpads. Just putting in some off-the-shelf synaptics touchpad with shitty drivers doesn't result in the same kind of quality.
That said, there are some decent trackpads on Windows machines. Supposedly the Surface Book one pretty much matches the Macbook ones. I have the impression that Dell also has some pretty good ones. But even in high-end devices a lot of them just aren't quite there yet. The clickpad in current Thinkpads is horrible if you actually want to click it instead of just tapping it. The gestures don't work as well, either.
None of the OEMs puts in the same effort as Apple or Microsoft. Even Chromebook input devices are generally seen as superior to most Windows laptops'.
lastflowers
Banned
Razor blade has another great trackpad
RipTheJacker
Member
If you were getting the same error as me there is no other choice than to rollback to 8.1. I'm currently installing the new preview now after doing so (finally)
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ld-10581/d6b7a3af-c202-4d4f-85e9-4c59f6323064
Apparently from this build that should never happen.