-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Windows Phone 8.1 |OT| Update 1
- Thread starter brotkasten
- Start date
L
Lord Virgin
Unconfirmed Member
Thought I'd ask here: so the Surface Phone, will they announce it this week or late 2016? Similar specs to the x3? The latter looks and sounds nice and all, but the previews aren't good. Kinda sick of Android and don't like iOS, need a new phone now that my Z2 is dying
Later in 2016. Seems obvious why.
I would get a new Android Phone.
WM10 is not ready for everyday use in its current state.
Windows Phone in general is good if you use mostly the built-in features. Hence, why I'm still interested in the platform.
The phone is still months out on an OS that still needs work. By then hopefully it will ironed out.
NeOak
Member
Windows 10 Mobile is the equivalent of Windows 95 Release A. It wouldn't surprise me if it crashed adding a printer too.
It needs the equivalent of a service pack to get it stable. So late 2016. Same reason the X3 is for summer. The OS is not stable enough for a business production environment yet.
Pretty much the same reason I went back to WP8.1 and forced Update 2 on my AT&T 1520: Stability and battery life.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Belkin, some midrange version without antennas sticking out.
Edit: The X3 looks great, the G4 looks great, and the s7 edge looks great. What a time to be a phone geek.
L
Lord Virgin
Unconfirmed Member
Bummer, was really looking forward to switching to Windows. Especially given the fact I work in a Windows environment, I guess I'll stick with Android for the next 2 years. Hopefully by then I'll be able to hop on board with a better OS and all of that.
None of the current Android phones do much for me, even Sony was kinda disappointing with the Z5. Maybe we'll get a surprise announcement this week, would be nice.
None of the current Android phones do much for me, even Sony was kinda disappointing with the Z5. Maybe we'll get a surprise announcement this week, would be nice.
HP Elite X3 Hands-On by Daniel Rubino
Windows Blog: The HP Elite x3 with Windows 10 Redefining the Mobile Computing Experience for Businesses.
The HP Elite x3 - A revolution in mobility
It's a pretty sweet looking device, I'm impressed.
Windows Blog: The HP Elite x3 with Windows 10 Redefining the Mobile Computing Experience for Businesses.
The HP Elite x3 - A revolution in mobility
It's a pretty sweet looking device, I'm impressed.
lastflowers
Banned
B&O the new Beats for HP marketing, haha.
juliushandle
Member
G5 "friends" are worthless besides the camera grip.
Just saw Daniel's hands on video. Device looks great.
I can really see this as the future of computing in few years. If MS plays their cards right and don't fuck up.
Anyways, well done HP. Those accessories also looking dope.
HP has nice speakers in their devices these days.
My 2009 HP DV7 Laptop used Altec Lansing speakers and the sound quality was quite impressive coming from a Laptop.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
G5's modules are janky AF. Great idea, but they feel like you are about to break the locks whenever you pull the battery out.
Edit: Microsoft's boot is such a massive joke. There is nothing of substance there. Not even coffee and pastries for the journos like in previous years.
Edit: Microsoft's boot is such a massive joke. There is nothing of substance there. Not even coffee and pastries for the journos like in previous years.
brotkasten
Member
Hopefully it's just a pre-production issue, but I see them still as worthless, because I doubt they'll be compatible with the G6 next year.
Friends without benefits?
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Also, Samsung gave away free VR headsets for all the journos attending their conference (over 3k iirc) and some people were pillaging leftover units. I saw journalists running away like bandits with three Gear VR packages, hiding them below their jackets and shit.
The swag addiction is real.
Edit: let me know if you want some quick impressions of any particular device.
The swag addiction is real.
Edit: let me know if you want some quick impressions of any particular device.
Surface phone running Cyanogen?
http://mspoweruser.com/cyanogen-int...integration-of-microsoft-services-on-android/
http://mspoweruser.com/cyanogen-int...integration-of-microsoft-services-on-android/
brotkasten
Member
I was ready to shit on WMPU again, but that's not even suggested in the article, much less in their headline.
What if they shock us with two versions. A Windows Mobile Surface and a Cyanogen Surface Phone?
I honestly feel Microsoft is tucking this into their back pocket for the day when WM10 isn't worth supporting anymore.
That's a shame. That phone looks pretty darn cool.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
The Jank Award goes to the Ubuntu tablet, though. Goddamn, that thing is *trash*.
Continuum wipes the floor with it. Shit, even the OG Surface RT was much more polished.
So it's not just me then. I reset my Band this morning hoping to get them back but it didn't work this time. I can see my calendar events, and syncing works fine but no notifications come through.
Yup, same as me. One step forward, two steps back.
juliushandle
Member
G5 camera module has no tripod mount.
I love my Lumia 2520 RT tablet and still use it in bed almost every night. Its extremely reliable a nd functional. Except the horrible RT on screen keyboard.
L
Lord Virgin
Unconfirmed Member
Bought a Lumia 950XL today, really digging it so far. The only thing I'm really missing is the YouTube app (from Google). Everything else seems fine.
Is there a way to stop the apps from moving? Put some of them in a folder but I want it to be static.
Is there a way to stop the apps from moving? Put some of them in a folder but I want it to be static.
MyTube is probably the best YouTube app around, I'd recommend going with it.
When you say moving you mean the animations? Some apps will have options to disable their live tile. If you make them their smallest size too they won't animate.
Welcome to this vibrant community (that doesn't even get an OT2, we're at 404 pages already!).
Anyway, apps moving, do you mean the live tiles? if so, no I don't think there's a way to stop them from moving, some apps you can turn them off on (usually in the settings within the app), but not generally at OS level I don't think. If you want to turn them off to save battery life, don't sweat it, it hasn't got much impact.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Get MetroTube. Bette than any Official YouTube app
Yup, mytube is great
nillapuddin
Member
as a former metrotube apologist
get tubecast
get tubecast
(unless metrotube is better now)
L
Lord Virgin
Unconfirmed Member
Nah, just find it annoying. But I'll probably get used to it.
Trying all of them, do the full versions actually add anything?
Also, what is the best browser to use? Currently using Edge, the refresh button on GAF doesn't seem to work for some reason.
juliushandle
Member
Grass isn't greener, it's just a different shade of brown.
Yeah, in the end I'd have an OS with issues but sadly it seems like marshmallow is more polished than W10M.
With what is likely the last refresh of WP, they should be pulling out all the stops and really pushing for the platform, not scaling back focus and passively letting it die. They actually had some momentum with 8.1 and that was under Ballmer's broken management. I like what I see of Satya, I just wish he poured that passion and dedication to the platform that really needs it. If Ballmer can gain momentum with a dead end platform, Satya should be able to do something with a platform that has potential.
Roberto Larcos
Member
I remember hearing someone say Xbox would have never happened under Nadella, and I can't help but think that they were right.
Nadella is great at strengthening the base. He knows Microsoft's core well, but won't throw good money after potentially bad as Ballmer did. That's why Ballmer bailed out Moore's Xbox division after RROD instead of shuttering it. That's why Ballmer bought Nokia's mobile division instead of letting Windows Phone die. But Nadella is less interested, because it falls outside Microsoft's core, doesn't make money (anymore), and a consumer-facing phone OS + hardware manufacturing doesn't sit well with Microsoft's core strategy. The only way it can stick around is by focussing on enterprise, and by getting partners to build devices for them (with a 'halo' Surface device only). Hence, Lumia is dead.
Windows 10 for mobile will stick around for now, but only if it clicks with enterprise customers. I don't think Continuum is enough, but we'll see what else they're sitting on at BUILD.
So yeah, Android and iOS are the only mobile OS's that care about consumers going forward. Microsoft's focus in mobile right now is clearly on enterprise.
TheBryanJZX90
Member
One thing I've been trying to figure out, is just what does it mean for a phone or an OS to be focused on enterprise rather than consumers? From what I can tell, it means of course a number of added features that enterprise consumers need. But as a consumer, what do we "lose" by our phones being designed for enterprise first? So far I see the following:
-No color allowed for a phone's case, only black, silver, maybe white
-Little to no chance of producing a phone with the best camera on the market?
-Abandon pursuit of popular apps on iOS and Android?
-No color allowed for a phone's case, only black, silver, maybe white
-Little to no chance of producing a phone with the best camera on the market?
-Abandon pursuit of popular apps on iOS and Android?
-Not carried in the telco operator stores.
-Expensive as hell, but with great service and support.
Roberto Larcos
Member
Lack of apps would be the main one. It will have Facebook and Instagram and Twitter, but you won't be getting an official Tinder app, the new craze apps, many half-decent games. But it's not the lack of them - like you said, it's the lack of pursuit. For consumers that always hoped Windows Phone could be one of the big 3, this is kinda fatal. In fact the whole thing screams of lack of ambition.
And features and services would all have an enterprise bent. In iOS 9, Siri is now basically a DJ -ou can ask 'her' to play music from a specific artist, or from 1986 - whatever. This is a consumer feature. You can use the new Samsung Galaxy S7 with their Gear VR headset. This is a consumer feature. Windows 10 for mobile focuses on seamless OneDrive cloud content syncing, using your phone with a monitor, a virtual PA (Cortana), and more secure and faster sign-in (Windows Hello). See the difference?
nillapuddin
Member
I have this case for my 640
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B016CB6WAM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Body Glove
Ive never liked having cases on my phones before, but I love this one.
Has anyone had any luck finding a really awesome case for their 950?
Preferably just black and without crazy "features"
(I work construction so I do want some protection)
edit:
yes I understand I should just consult this all holy amazon search results, but Im just asking if anyone has actually bought received and used some of these things
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B016CB6WAM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Body Glove
Ive never liked having cases on my phones before, but I love this one.
Has anyone had any luck finding a really awesome case for their 950?
Preferably just black and without crazy "features"
(I work construction so I do want some protection)
edit:
yes I understand I should just consult this all holy amazon search results, but Im just asking if anyone has actually bought received and used some of these things
i prefer "the grass is greener because there's more shit over there"
Steelyuhas
Member
Intel chipsets for mobile are reportedly "years away" from being as good as ARM chips.
NeOak
Member
I have this case for my 640
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B016CB6WAM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Body Glove
Ive never liked having cases on my phones before, but I love this one.
Has anyone had any luck finding a really awesome case for their 950?
Preferably just black and without crazy "features"
(I work construction so I do want some protection)
edit:
yes I understand I should just consult this all holy amazon search results, but Im just asking if anyone has actually bought received and used some of these things
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017QRJEOW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Best one IMO. Got two as gifts and they love them.
Steelyuhas
Member
Rubino claims his tease is not device related, so no, but I wouldn't put too much stock into a Rubino twitter tease myself.