Steelyuhas
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Do we know the likely timeframe for those?
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Windows Phone 8.1 |OT| Update 1
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brotkasten
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Yeah, they usually launch in Fall. September/October time frame.
The thing with the current Nexus phones is that the 808/2GB RAM in the 5X is barely an upgrade, if you already own a flagship phone and the 6P has the 810, which seems to be fine for general use, but gets warm quickly and throttles, when you start playing a game or something like that.
To be clear, I'm going off impressions from the Android thread, not actual first hand impressions. But those were enough to put me off both phones entirely. I'd only order a 5X, if my OG N5 breaks tomorrow.
All that said, if you're not interested in getting the latest OS updates ASAP, there are other good phones out there. The Galaxy S7 has some nice bells and whistles from the Lumias (glance, alternative to double tap to wake, wireless charging) and the HTC 10 seems like a good all-rounder (without a lot of bloat).
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I'm gun shy with Samsung phones but the feedback on the s7 has been universally great. HTC 10 is another solid choice. I still fear the randomness of Android, where apps can harm a phones performance and battery life and it can be impossible to pinpoint a problem. So you roll along having a great experience and suddenly it all comes crashing down and there's not much you can do about it. So ios is the more stress free experience over time.
Steelyuhas
Member
Yeah I don't think I want to jump into the Samsung software, will probably stick to Nexus.
Roberto Larcos
Member
I'd absolutely jump on that if I could.
I had to sideload Xbox smart glass to my Samsung. Felt like a dirty thief.
brotkasten
Member
I am thinking about upgrading to Win10 agian on my Lumia 640, but 50% of the times that I did it, it messed up everything and I lost a day or two fixing (meaning: reinstalling Win8.1 and setting it up, downloading all apps again etc).
The reason I want to do it is because I cant use Microsoft Health (crashes before opening) and I cant logging in Flickr Central (so i cant upload my phone pictures).
Should I do it?
The reason I want to do it is because I cant use Microsoft Health (crashes before opening) and I cant logging in Flickr Central (so i cant upload my phone pictures).
Should I do it?
Software on Samsung's devices is good now. We're a long way from the days of the S3 and S4.
megarockexe
Member
USA At&t.
What will give me that same wow factor like when I got my 920 in early 2013? I'd like a good camera, glance, double-tap, and durable. Seems like the S7, Nexus, and HTC phones are being most recommended. I'd hate to end up with a Samsung phone, to be the same as everyone else - though the hardware looks good. Is that new LG phone also something I'd want?
Roberto Larcos
Member
Closest to 'wow' off the top of my head:
BlackBerry Priv (for sliding keyboard, timely updates, near-stock)
Galaxy S7 Edge (the display is phenomenal, love that wraparound glass)
LG G6 (gimmicks over substance here to be honest)
HTC 10 (superb build quality)
Potential dark horse, the Xperia Z5. Very, very solid build, nice camera. Not all that common stateside.
Everyone has one because it's the best. Nothing wrong with that.
In case anyone who switched is curious most Microsoft apps do not work on Android N. Groove and Microsoft Health are the biggies for me.
HBO Go and a couple others stopped working as well. But since it's primarily MS apps, I just have to assume it's more of Google's trademarked fuckery.
Update your apps MS!
HBO Go and a couple others stopped working as well. But since it's primarily MS apps, I just have to assume it's more of Google's trademarked fuckery.
Update your apps MS!
Steelyuhas
Member
Wait, so until this point the 950XL has been $150 more expensive despite having basically identical specs to the 6p?
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
The price points on both phones were ridiculous. The incredible, innovative 920 debuted at $450. The 520 was at one time the best value in phones. So not only did MS take a step back with developers and OS stability, they took a massive step back in value as well.
yankeehater
Member
I have wondered for a while why the prices seemed to go up so much. I dont pay attention to the other phone makers though, so I dont know if MS was trying to respond to something Google or Apple did. I am sure there is some crazy rule where you cant have your high end phone be cheaper then other companies high end phones.
brotkasten
Member
While looking for an update timeline on OnePlus phones, I found out that the timely updates on Blackberry devices isn't really a thing.
Google released 6.0 on October 5th, Blackberry released the 6.0 update for the Priv one month ago. Really disappointing for a near-stock phone.
I definitely disagree. People still hand me the newest Galaxy phones for tech help, and it's just as much of a disaster as it's ever been.
Performance is abysmal in addition to everything being everywhere. (note, these are casual users, so they DO likely install crap that shouldn't be, etc...)
Same as always, maybe it's not quite as ugly though?
If you guys want to get Android phones stay away from the Galaxy line! It's couldn't be more the opposite of WP.
NeOak
Member
They release the monthly security updates on time.
Is it on those phones? They'd be an extreme minority if so. I've seen people shit on them for ugly software but not it being slow.
Why would I make this up? S6 and N5's
Don't really know anyone with an S7 yet.
Someone else I know got one of those smaller LG tablets and a new S6 at same time. The LG tablet ran MUCH better and this was both were brand new.
It's the internet, most people talk through their arses that's why.
The only issue I've ever heard with the S6 was it not holding apps in memory, which was fixed with MM. Beyond that it's a zippy device from what I've experienced with them and read about them. Never experienced a Note 5 first hand since they're not on sale here but I'd imagine similar performance to the S6 but I remember reading it didn't have the RAM management issues.
Sorry, you're right. This is really only thread I post in here though.
I don't deny your experience. I also made sure to note that these are just casual/average users.
They'll install anything - and everything! - and that obviously plays a factor as well. But, on the other hand, that is a part of Android and these devices - one app can totally take over your phone if you let it.
I am always telling Android folks to not install ANYTHING
I assume the phones come with stuff like Facebook and email apps, and if they delve into that store, bad things happen.
Roberto Larcos
Member
megarockexe
Member
Use to just be the absence of choice. "Are you Apple, or Samsung", without even considering other options. And it's apparently only recently gotten better than the bloated, flimsy, plastic phones that were the S3 and/or S4.
Sorry, you're right. This is really only thread I post in here though.
I don't deny your experience. I also made sure to note that these are just casual/average users.
They'll install anything - and everything! - and that obviously plays a factor as well. But, on the other hand, that is a part of Android and these devices - one app can totally take over your phone if you let it.
I am always telling Android folks to not install ANYTHING
I assume the phones come with stuff like Facebook and email apps, and if they delve into that store, bad things happen.
Sorry if I came across a bit of a dick, I assumed it was another dick on Samsung post. It is strange performance is suffering with top end SoC, RAM and storage inside.
Recently as in autumn 2014 with the Note 4?
Think it was because they no longer wanted to sell them at a loss and they no longer cared about market share.
megarockexe
Member
Nah, phablets don't count, if that even is a category anymore.
So does any other phone even offer double-tap to wake? I can't go back to a time without that feature.
brotkasten
Member
Double tap to sleep, too. Even since the G2. Really great.
One plus one not only had that but it had gestures while the screen was off. For example if you drew a circle the flashlight would come on.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
You really haven't been a Samsung owner long enough. Stick to the s7 defense, the reviews say it is an improved experience. But don't make blanket statements going back to even last year's devices. I owned an s6.
Edit: and S5, and Note 4. The issues are real.
megarockexe
Member
None of the specs or reviews I found mentioned it. Makes it sound like it's not a stand-out feature unlike the Lumias which touted it.
They were far from reliable gestures though.
I remember your troubles but still a minority experience from what I've read online and from talking to people with the devices.
NeOak
Member
Someone I know that has a 6 Edge+ has complained about the slowdown after installing apps. So no. The problems are real.
And has said that the slowdown is noticeable after coming from a Lumia 1520.
NeOak
Member
I wish. I spent the money on a Zynq board and some VHDL books in case I do get an interview for a job a recruiter contacted me for.
antiquegamer
Member
I just got the Mashmellow update last month on the OnePlus One, I think that is normal. Beside having to test to make sure it works with particular hardware, I read somewhere that other company get their codes after release and not before. So 6 months is probably reasonable time frame no?
I don't love the galaxy line nor Android but the camera is crazy good. You can't deny that.
brotkasten
Member
I can't say that 6 months are reasonable, when Google is about to finish the next version. And if other manufactures get it sooner than others, then it's tough luck for the rest. LG released 6.0 for the G3 and G4 in late November/December. Samsung was already pretty late (as usual) with shipping the update in March and April. I can't say that's acceptable these days anymore.
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