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Windows Phone 8.1 |OT| Update 1
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I'd love to see a 1030 early next year, as I'd easily be able to do a cheap'ish upgrade from my 1020 then.
Ideally, they can also leverage Denim's camera speed increase on a 1020 successor along with a more appropriate processor on board as well.
HTC One lol.
Maybe there will be carrier specific versions of the 830. Hard to imagine it not coming here when every rumor had it coming to each of the carriers and the leakers had a Verizon device. I'm sure we'll get more info
I hope so, I don't love the 830 but I've been looking for a reason to switch to a bring-your-own phone plan on T-mobile. A decent $300 phone would certainly make that an easier pill to swallow.
I think I'm done paying $130+ bucks a month for two phones.
The 830 and 735 are both on Nokia USA's website: http://www.nokia.com/us-en/phones/all "coming soon"
My 820 was working flawlessly with 8.1.1 and then the micro-usb port broke (and I don't want to buy a shell for it with this just around the corner), but my 521 has been utter shit with the DP
I'm too lazy to downgrade, so hurry up and release MS!You can't even have the new "Hey Cortana" feature as that requires a snapdragon S8XX.
Really? Dang.
Didn't they advertise this with the 830?
Not sure but WPCentral reported it's only for S800 and up processors which doesn't make sense as I think it works on Android with lesser hardware.
MrGreencastle
Member
This is only 'affordable' flagship if they make the device hit under $350.
I really love the look of the phone, especially the availability of a green variant and the microsd card slot. Only bad part is the 720p screen. Basically all phones in that range should be 1080p by now. Save OLED for the 9xx and 10xx devices, but the 8xx should have 1080p, imo.
I have a 920, and I'm not compelled to get a 830 just yet. They need to have a device that competes better with the Nexus 5. And I just know that any reasonably priced phone better than the 830 won't have a microSD slot, which is just incorrect. I won't upgrade my 920 until its an actual upgrade.
I really love the look of the phone, especially the availability of a green variant and the microsd card slot. Only bad part is the 720p screen. Basically all phones in that range should be 1080p by now. Save OLED for the 9xx and 10xx devices, but the 8xx should have 1080p, imo.
I have a 920, and I'm not compelled to get a 830 just yet. They need to have a device that competes better with the Nexus 5. And I just know that any reasonably priced phone better than the 830 won't have a microSD slot, which is just incorrect. I won't upgrade my 920 until its an actual upgrade.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I think both phones look great, but I'm not about that mid range life.
Huge mistake not packing a s800 (or even s600) in the 830. The only thing flagship about that phone is the marketing speak. So far IMO the 930/Icon, Ativ SE, and One M8 are the only flagship Windows phones this year. Kind of sad they don't have anything high end to compete with the iPhone 6 and Note 4.
Not sure. Some phones recently received the cyan update without needing to roll back, so I hope the same thing happens with the Icon.
Either those Android phones have an additional chip that allows for voice activation or they experience additional power drain when the feature is enabled. The s800 chips and up have additional hardware for hands free voice activation, so that's why those phones only support it on WP. I'd imagine older chips may be able to support it to if the feature was developed with them in mind, but the extra drain to the battery might be problematic.
Not sure. Some phones recently received the cyan update without needing to roll back, so I hope the same thing happens with the Icon.
Either those Android phones have an additional chip that allows for voice activation or they experience additional power drain when the feature is enabled. The s800 chips and up have additional hardware for hands free voice activation, so that's why those phones only support it on WP. I'd imagine older chips may be able to support it to if the feature was developed with them in mind, but the extra drain to the battery might be problematic.
brotkasten
Member
Don't forget the 41 MP camera from the 1020.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
We have thin, light, mid priced phones packing s800 internals on the market.
I'd rather have 720p and smoother performance/better battery life than 1080p tbh.
What color should I get? I hope the MS store has them all in stock so I can pick in person.
Guesses as to what the next Nokia firmware version will be named? I'm going with Emerald. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors:_A–F
What color should I get? I hope the MS store has them all in stock so I can pick in person.
Guesses as to what the next Nokia firmware version will be named? I'm going with Emerald. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors:_A–F
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
The screen resolution won't make a big difference in battery life or performance. S400 vs. S800 would.
killer rin
Member
So I'm assuming the 920 wont get it then.
-.- Come on Robellus, pick up a new high-end windows phone. The 930 is sitting out there in international markets for crying out loud.
Canada ain't getting shit. They think the 630 is good enough for us and that we don't want anything better.
MrGreencastle
Member
Chipset is fine how it is, but the problem I have is mainly about expandable storage. Why do none of Nokia/Microsoft's flagships have a microsd slot? I use Xbox Music, and have a very small data plan so I need that local storage for my collection. 32GB on the 920 is not enough for me, but neither the 930 or greater have that capability unless you go with the huge tank phones which are too big for my tastes.
Nexus 5 is Google's 'affordable' flagship, and its a year old at this point, so there's little reason to me that Nokia are releasing a competing phone that is, aside from the build quality, pretty much 'inferior' in every respect, and I bet that will be even more obvious when the Nexus X or whatever next version is fairly soon.
My ideal 2014/15 Nokia would look like a 830, have competitive hardware with a Nexus 5, meaning lowish end Snapdragon 800, 1GB RAM, 16GB storage, a 1080p screen, and a sub 400 CAD pricepoint off contract. And I should be able to walk into a Microsoft Store and buy it straight up. 830 camera, swappable backs, microsd, are all perfectly fine so should stay.
The 930 isn't a compelling upgrade to my 920 to me, neither was the 1020, and the 830 isn't doing it for me either.
brotkasten
Member
Of course, right along or shortly after the new HTC One M9 and Galaxy S6 Active Edge Note Pro.
But they have nothing compelling for the holiday season and especially not for 920 users.
theDeeDubs
Member
About to snag an Icon through verizon. Is it worth it to wait for an 830 or are they a step down?
lastflowers
Banned
830 is a step down.
Hey, I didn't say it was a good thing.
I'm in the same boat as you. I purchased my 920 when it came out and am looking to upgrade. I don't see anything worthwhile. Unless I'm missing something, my options seem to be:
Lumia 830
Lumia 930
Lumia 1520 (too big for my taste)
HTC M8
Am I missing anything else? I don't mind waiting a bit longer, I just feel like there should be more options available. I'm sure I'm not the only one that got a WP when the Lumia 920 launched. I've been extremely happy with it, I just don't think any of my current options are a big enough of an upgrade to warrant a purchase.
MrGreencastle
Member
Basically this. I wish Microsoft would just reject carriers, etc, and just sell their lineup unlocked in their store, because the carrier situation in Canada is a bad joke. 930 is a good step up from the 920, but it still lacks poweruser-type features of the lesser Lumia devices, which is something I've never really understood (mainly talking about microSD). Wouldn't be so bad if storage sizes weren't artificially stagnated to like 16-32GB for the past few years. Should be up to like 64-128GB on the low end for flagships.
juliushandle
Member
How does the 830's CPU compare to the 1020's CPU?
Also, was there any news about US pricing and which carriers will carry these phones?
Also, was there any news about US pricing and which carriers will carry these phones?
Not yet no. I'm hoping for 1:1 /$ prices for unlocked phones, so $330 for an unlocked 830 that works on all carriers.
I'm dreaming.
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/list/Unlocked-Phones/categoryID.66316800
brotkasten
Member
The prices they mention are always before taxes. That makes the 830 399 incl. VAT.
Opus Angelorum
Member
The 830 looks like a good jump from my 920, especially at the price.
yankeehater
Member
Have they said anything about the 1020 coming to Verizon this year yet? I want a release date so bad. I saw a site the other day said October but I cant find anything official.
I forget, does that mean $399 w/o sales tax in the US? Is the usual conversion VATed = untaxed $ ?
Get the Icon. While you're there though, lodge a complaint that Verizon hasn't released 8.1 yet.
I may go back to the store and ask them to send it up the chain, for whatever that's worth. (nothing).
http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/4/6106485/stop-trying-to-sell-me-wrist-worn-smartphones
The big lead up to "amazing, it takes Apple to see a trend, how it's done very wrong and them doing it so so incredibly right", I suspect.
The big lead up to "amazing, it takes Apple to see a trend, how it's done very wrong and them doing it so so incredibly right", I suspect.
José Mourinho
cocknose
Bought a black 930. That's me content for a few days.