NeOak
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Carriers are ultimately who decide if a phone sells or not. Just look at what happened to Google with the Nexus One.
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The Faceless Master
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i can only speak for myself, but i like to IRC on my phone. i did it with WM5/6.
Native code is going to give developers a huge boost. Epic Games themselves have said they wouldn't develop for WP7 as long as they didn't have access to native code; WP8 removes this barrier.
The 900's disappointing camera should receive software fixes quickly, the 800 also launched with a whole host of problems (mediocre camera, poor audio output and battery life) and Nokia has released a number of patches over 1-2 months which've fixed pretty much everything.
The 900's disappointing camera should receive software fixes quickly, the 800 also launched with a whole host of problems (mediocre camera, poor audio output and battery life) and Nokia has released a number of patches over 1-2 months which've fixed pretty much everything.
Steelyuhas
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Except the 900 is on AT&T, so they won't push any of those updates!
I'd like true multi-tasking because the way it's implemented right now is not very good. As for battery life I haven't noticed a difference between my Android phone and WP so to have WP use a worse implementation of it doesn't make sense to me as it's really not doing too much to save battery. Allowing apps to update every 30 mins or so just isn't cutting it and ruins the experience.
They all their drawbacks, iOS has it setup right. I can run Pandora in the background while I do other things with iOS. Well WP doesn't have a native Pandora app so there goes that.
Complex Shadow
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I am pretty sure you can run spotify/zunepass in the background
Those aren't free apps, lack of storage space makes it even worse. Truth is WP7 is left behind as far as apps development goes. I think this Microsoft giveaway is gonna change things up, brilliant marketing to be honest.
You should really state what feature you are going to argue with
I use TuneIN a lot. Free, streaming, has everything.
bigtroyjon
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If anyone is interested in writing a 250 word essay, Microsoft is giving away a lot of stuff.
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No chance I follow through on something like this maybe some of you that are students could take a stab at it.
At this moment in time, writing about Windows Phone helps you out is probably the best way to go.
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No chance I follow through on something like this maybe some of you that are students could take a stab at it.
Ten (10) Grand Prizes: One (1) Graduation Bundle, which consists of: One (1) laptop (laptop make, model, manufacturer, and all other aspects of the laptop are at the sole discretion of the Sponsor); one (1) copy of Microsoft Office Professional 2010 software (software edition, features, and all other aspects of the Microsoft Office software are at the sole discretion of the Sponsor); one (1) laptop bag (laptop bag make, model, manufacturer, and all other aspects of the laptop bag are at the sole discretion of the Sponsor); one (1) $250 Microsoft Store gift card; one (1) 250GB Xbox 360® with Kinect; three (3) Xbox 360® video games (video game titles, editions, manufacturers, and all other aspects of the video games are at the sole discretion of the Sponsor); and $1,287.88, awarded in the form of a corporate check intended to assist with taxes associated with acceptance of the prize. The Approximate Retail Value (“ARV”
At this moment in time, writing about Windows Phone helps you out is probably the best way to go.
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Like DerFeef said, Tunein works very well, I use it for local radio and that's free. BTW Lumia handsets also have Nokia Music, which is supposed to be pretty good. My telco has blocked it for licensing reasons which is fucking annoying but my wife's unbranded 800 has it, it works quite well if you don't feel like paying for a streaming service.
tbh a Zune Pass sub is well worth the monthly asking price, if an app is worth the money I've no qualms about putting down cash for it. The reluctance of Android users to pay for apps has forced developers to price their apps for free and then infest their hard work with IAP systems and unsightly ads, damn shame.
Fjolle
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Well. It is a BETA smartphone. Most of the kinks should be worked out with the latest update, which i haven't gotten yet (Damn you T-mobile DE).
Other than that it is an awesome phone.
It's an awesome phone, although the battery life of mine is still lacking. I hope the update fixes that, as reports suggest. (Damn you, T-Mobile DE!)
It also looks even better than the 900.
But I'm not sure I'd rule out using the FFC, you never know.
brotkasten
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Poor Vlad. Looks like he was ordered to calm the rabid Windows Phone fanboys down.
Competition is king: why Nokia and Microsoft are the perfect match
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/9/2934636/nokia-windows-phone-competition-editorial
Competition is king: why Nokia and Microsoft are the perfect match
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/9/2934636/nokia-windows-phone-competition-editorial
NeOak
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True, but there is this: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/0caac4aa-962f-483b-9c26-76a3d8a1fd10
antiquegamer
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I have yet to use my FFC on my Titan. I am thinking about picking up the 800 also ... after the huge Titan for the last few months I think I rather have a smaller phone.
Oh, the 800 doesn't have gyro sensor which is kinda odd..
Fjolle
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I read something about installing the update from another model through navifirm, but i haven't bothered trying it. It should come out tomorrow or next Wednesday anyway.
I think that Nokia told the operators to have it approved by the 18th, and then just released it early if the operators were fast to approve of it.
It's coming, April 18th at the latest afaik. But there was a list of carriers who approved the update and T-Mobile was the only one lagging behind.
Yeah, the lack of a gyro sensor is odd, but so far it hasn't bothered me. I think the directions in Wikitude were slightly off, but I haven't noticed anything else.
I haven't had to "transfer" any contacts since I started syncing my contacts to iCloud or Gmail. That's what you really should be doing so you don't have to transfer anything whenever you get a new device or want to see your contacts synced across different devices or the web.
brotkasten
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Okay cool guys, thanks for the infos. I guess I will jump on the white 800 then. The white 900 is propably so far away that I would rather wait for Apollo
I think I should lower the royalty for regulars in this thread. I don't want to rob you guys.
mescalineeyes
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I would rather wait for Apollo
Given how fucking awful my 4S has been acting up lately, I might cave sooner, too.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
This just screams "DAMAGE CONTROL!" lol
So now that the 900 is out beyond the emerging markets getting their "Tango" phones there aren't any announced phones on the horizon.
I wonder how long MS and Nokia will just roll on the 900 hype verses teasing us on the next big thing both in terms of Apollo and the next big phone from Nokia. I can't really think of anything coming up conference wise so I'd assume they'd have to release info some other way.
Fjolle
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I don't know if they will have some models between now and Apollo, but i'm sure that Nokia (and the other ones..) will have something big for the WP8 launch in October.
I would guess that maybe they will do it the same way as last year, and announce the OS in late May. Then the manufacturers can announce the phones in June-July?
E: But it's April and we haven't seen Tango yet... :/
I would guess that maybe they will do it the same way as last year, and announce the OS in late May. Then the manufacturers can announce the phones in June-July?
E: But it's April and we haven't seen Tango yet... :/
Mary Jo Foley said her sources are saying May for Apollo info
The VVM and incredibly improved reception alone made the purchase worth it coming from my Titan.
So I get into my office today and I get an IM "Hey I just got a new phone can you set it up for me?" I'm thinking to myself could someone else at work have gotten a 900? Surely enough that's what I happened.
Two things that need to be banished ASAP.
1.) The 20MB download limit over the Cellular network
2.) The download limit over WIFI without being plugged in
So I get into my office today and I get an IM "Hey I just got a new phone can you set it up for me?" I'm thinking to myself could someone else at work have gotten a 900? Surely enough that's what I happened.
Two things that need to be banished ASAP.
1.) The 20MB download limit over the Cellular network
2.) The download limit over WIFI without being plugged in
What is #2?
#1 should definitely be done away with. If I am cool with using my data for that, I don't see a problem with allowing it. Perhaps throw up a warning about the file size.
Also, I think I have figured out what my issue was with updates showing up on my marketplace tile but when I go to the marketplace, there are no updates. It appears that I need to be on WiFi for some of the updates. When I am on WiFi, the updates always appear. Anyone else notice this?
Theres still a download limit over WIFI unless your phone is plugged into a power source. I think its 100MB's maybe lower. I don't think it should exist at all if connected to WIFI plugged in or not.
lastflowers
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IIRC, 1 is because carriers were bitching like no other....
no idea on why 2 happens. I don't think I've ever run into that.
frontieruk
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That editorial read like Josh was whispering in his ear. It also, as an opinion worked so much better as an editorial than a review.
I'm still wondering how "Wait for Apollo" trademarked, isn't your tag.
metro radio is a 3rd party pandora app, i run that in the background just fine.
If you download any maps for Navigation apps it will ask you to plug in your phone and connect to WIFI. I've also encountered this with games too. Its an annoying limitation which I don't understand why it's there in the first place.
Oh another thing. I'm getting 2-3 bars in my Home now where before I only had 1. Love the reception on this thing.
Windows Phone is setup similar to iOS, but iOS allows for a few more styles of background apps. Windows 8 metro apps are actually the same way. Windows Phone does support background audio, it also supports background file transfers and a couple other things.
Hopefully Windows Phone 8 will expand on this. Here is a list of what is supported in Windows 8 Metro, I think we can use this as a idea of what to expect from WP8.
lastflowers
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That's atrocious. If you're on wifi, there should be no throttle. I wanna know who I have to talk to get that fixed. Seems like something that should have been alleviated with Mango...
Oddly, I just downloaded the Nokia Drive app and downloaded the California map without it being plugged in. It was about 150MB.
one thing i hate is how windows phone handles multitasking for workout apps like endomondo. you can only use the app with background music. if you go into checking text, a website, etc, the workout app will pause. this is a deal breaker for many folks who live and die with these workout apps.
are you sure because with the new edmondo 6.0 and sports tracker that doesnt happen
Applications don't have access to location services in the background so if you leave the app to do something else, it gets paused and can't continue to track.
lastflowers
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I don't think this is true. I wrote an app that tracked my GPS location every 30 minutes in the background, and uploaded it to a server as a part of a student project.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Use LastFM instead. That's a natively coded MS App, and unlike other platforms MS made a deal to make it free in WP7. It's the perfect Pandora alternative.
Contemplating on whether I should go back to Microsoft and see if I can get the black Lumia 900 instead. The cyan really is loud.
So got data to work again, now it's not working again. Swapped the SIM into my 4S and back to the Lumia and it went kaput again. I'm guessing its an AT&T issue.
So got data to work again, now it's not working again. Swapped the SIM into my 4S and back to the Lumia and it went kaput again. I'm guessing its an AT&T issue.
That's a periodic agent. He's talking about continuous location tracking, not just at an interval of 30 minutes.
It's awesome. Unless you're in a very strict business environment, I can't see why you'd do this.
frontieruk
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The key word is every 30 minutes.
running an application that continues to run while the user uses other applications on the device, then this is not possible. In the Mango build of the operating system you can create background agents, but these only run every 30 minutes and only for 15 seconds as described on MSDN.
I guess I'm getting too old for loud colors. I think I'm just gonna end up selling this thing anyway.
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