there's still the 820 and the 8X/8S that will do well on t-mo, verizon, and att.
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there's still the 820 and the 8X/8S that will do well on t-mo, verizon, and att.
t-mobile days of getting hero phones are over, accept it. as it is, an unlocked 920 will work on t-mobile but EDGE speeds are the fastest you'll get until t-mobile starts using att's 1900mhz towers as well, which was reported to be happening sometime in january. once that happens, then you can use unlocked att phones on t-mobile using HDSPA+ speeds which in theory can go up to 82mbps.
True. It'll be good to have a viable alternative with the 8X. Hopefully we'll be seeing some great marketing campaigns on att and Verizon showcasing both phones this holiday season.
They have a lovely stable of Motorola devices if you're into that sort of thing.
Same, I'm still holding out for pentaband unlocked sans carrier branding à la Galaxy Nexus..
If I can't get a Lumia 920 that works on T-Mo, I probably won't buy a WP8 at all. Damn shame really, I'm tired of my Nexus.
While I don't agree with the hero statement entirely on T-Mobile (See Galaxy S III), you're largely correct. And I appreciate the other tower info.
Bottom line is though, if I'm gonna buy a phone off contract for $500+, it's gonna need to support LTE. So I'm either gonna go with one of the HTC models (If I can confirm it supports T-Mobile's intended LTE bands) or wait until next year to see how things shake out.
brotkasten
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Interesting comparison between Nokia Xpress and Internet Explorer
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/15873_How_much_faster_is_Nokia_Xpres.php
Looks like Xpress uses 80% less data and results in some significant loading times on crappy connections (they sued 2G). I imagine the difference over LTE if negligible, but the difference in data usage may worth it.
I believe there were rumors of IE10 Mobile supporting compression similar to Xpress.
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/15873_How_much_faster_is_Nokia_Xpres.php
Looks like Xpress uses 80% less data and results in some significant loading times on crappy connections (they sued 2G). I imagine the difference over LTE if negligible, but the difference in data usage may worth it.
I believe there were rumors of IE10 Mobile supporting compression similar to Xpress.
Souldriver
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Could someone explain to me why on earth Nokia would limit their crucial, important for survival, flagship phone to one carrier?
Is it a positive relationship between the carrier and manufacturer? As in "if you make your phone exclusive to us, we'll take the financiel burden of cheap contracts." Or is it a negative one, as in "if you dont make you phome exclusive to us, we wont carry your phone at all."
How does it work and in what powerposition is Nokia?
Is it a positive relationship between the carrier and manufacturer? As in "if you make your phone exclusive to us, we'll take the financiel burden of cheap contracts." Or is it a negative one, as in "if you dont make you phome exclusive to us, we wont carry your phone at all."
How does it work and in what powerposition is Nokia?
Elop is a dumbass.
who knows, but it's probably more in the lines of, "make this phone exclusive to us and we can promise X amount of dollars to market this phone."
On WiFi, Nokia Xpress has been really slow for me so far, and it also has problems with rendering and displaying the right versions of the sites. I hope all that will be fixed during beta. Haven't tried it on cellular, so far.
Nokia basically has zero leverage. I think they realize that there's so little awareness of WP and so much FUD, that they need a carrier who's willing to push it in stores. And I don't see how they have much more to offer in return besides exclusivity.
Which is a damn shame.
come on now, nokia had absolutely zero mindshare in the US in between the original motorola razr flip phone and the nokia 900. that's a lot of years that nokia has to make up for and rebuild relationships with carriers. elop isn't going to change this overnight.
I'm sure it comes down to money. Either AT&T money-hatted them or promised to promote them heavily in the media and in stores.
Business is business I guess. But this sure does make a compelling argument for MS to release the rumored 'Surface' phone, which would presumably be carrier agnostic.
Carrier exclusive deals won't give WP8 the shot in the arm it needs to gain market share IMO. But MS gets that the manufacturers/carriers need to do their thing, at least in the short term.
Souldriver
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It really is a shame, considering the interwebz are actually really impressed and positive about the 920. Ive seen the phone mentioned quite a lot on message boards that are not tech centered, but happen to have a topic where phones come up.
WP needs a hallmark phone and nokia needs a hallmark phone so that both can be propelled into relevancy. I might be too optimistic here, but i really do feel that if there is a competent marketeer at the helms of Nokia, they could propel the Lumia 920 to the position of the "third way" between iPhone/iOs and Galaxy/android. Push this angle for all its worth and after a while both the media and the general masses will automatically namedrop that third alternative when the other two are mentioned. Its essentially the strategy Samsung used to make the Gs3 the de facto challenger of the iPhone.
WP needs a hallmark phone and nokia needs a hallmark phone so that both can be propelled into relevancy. I might be too optimistic here, but i really do feel that if there is a competent marketeer at the helms of Nokia, they could propel the Lumia 920 to the position of the "third way" between iPhone/iOs and Galaxy/android. Push this angle for all its worth and after a while both the media and the general masses will automatically namedrop that third alternative when the other two are mentioned. Its essentially the strategy Samsung used to make the Gs3 the de facto challenger of the iPhone.
16 gigs is really fucking bad, though. I don't have a lot of music on my phone, almost no video, and of course a few apps, and it's almost full. Mostly with pictures. And it's been less than a year.
Anton Sugar
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Is there a detailed article on the Skydrive/streaming integration in WP8? I think that's going to be the only thing that makes 16gb worthwhile, because I constantly have to reorganize my 900 :-\
It has a Micro-SD slot, though. There's that.
I don't think it does.
Anton Sugar
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8S does...I don't think the 8X does.
Not the 8X, but the 8S has one.
Yeah, got it mixed up. My mistake.
Realizing this, I'm just going to look at the 8s. ATT exclusivity news is such a downer.
That's actually not a bad idea.
brotkasten
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The 8S is really temping because of the design and low price, but I don't know if I could go back to that low pixel density.
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I still say the biggest issue I have with the platform now and going forward is web browser choices. I know IE is way better than it use to be, but it's still playing catch up. The one thing I like about Android is having access to a ton of different browser options.
Seriously how many times have they announced WP8? It feels like they've shown it off at least 3 times. Bet this means we'll be waiting till at least the week of the event before we get firm pricing as well.
Can't wait for Belfiore to show off the People Hub.
Finally, we can get an in depth walkthrough of how to make a group for pinning to the start.
Seems the wrong thread for that since it doesn't mention WP8 in the slightest...
Official launch October 29th
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-confirms-windows-phone-8-launch-on-october-29-in-san-francisco-7000005262/
Edit: beaten
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-confirms-windows-phone-8-launch-on-october-29-in-san-francisco-7000005262/
Edit: beaten
Can't alienate the early adopters (WP7) too quickly.
brotkasten
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any word on who the cyan 920 is going to in the uk?
Information is really thin right now. The Cyan just popped up today and all we know is it's going to AT&T.
only 512 ram though
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