lastflowers
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Since they're adhering to the Qi standard, I assume that Qi stations will work.
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Since they're adhering to the Qi standard, I assume that Qi stations will work.
Apart from weight, I don't think so. WP8 is pretty standardized, and Samsung hasn't added much when it comes to exclusive services so far.
Everdred
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That's what I figured, I hadn't found anything but wanted to make sure.
Real Verizon 822 pictures:
http://wmpoweruser.com/verizon-nokia-lumia-822-real-life-pictures-leak/
D: Does not look pretty at all.
http://wmpoweruser.com/verizon-nokia-lumia-822-real-life-pictures-leak/
D: Does not look pretty at all.
Souldriver
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reminds me of the 610 and 710, which aren't particularly good looking phones...
Yup. Pretty much a done deal for me now.
brotkasten
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The 810 looks great.
brotkasten
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If Samsung can release a "Galaxy S3 Mini" with a WVGA screen and ask money for it, everyone should be allowed to do it.
VanMardigan
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Is there a technical or economic reason for not having 720p 4" or smaller phones? Not even Apple does it.
What's your minimum resolution/dpi? Other than Apple's funky res, what other options are there between wvga and 720p?
What's your minimum resolution/dpi? Other than Apple's funky res, what other options are there between wvga and 720p?
NeOak
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Both.
Technically, it could be done, but it would be too expensive due to low yields and other stuff that always craps over production.
For phones, 300+ ppi is standard now and what everyone should be buying.
4" 720P is probably pushing it in terms of cost. 4.3" in the 8X is pretty good.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Have the 1080p phones come out yet? If not, isn't the 8X the highest ppi you can get on a phone (tied with some android devices)?
Yeah in terms of just phone design/aesthetics, it's pretty close between 920/8X, but gotta say, the 810 comes in hot on their heels. There's something about those clean edges that marries the OS really well.
I can't imagine a less interesting discussion and more useless technology advancement than phone resolutions and PPI even higher than what the iPhone and these Windows Phones have announced (outside of the 800x480 phones).
Seriously, what's the point? Excuse me for using Apple's marketing speak here, but PPI this high is definitely "retina" from my own experience to the point where it's completely impossible to distinguish pixels in the screen.
Higher-resolution screens would be more expensive, require much more powerful hardware, have much bigger batteries, with shorter battery life, and slower performance in games in apps. And it provides 0-to-negligible value.
Why??
Seriously, what's the point? Excuse me for using Apple's marketing speak here, but PPI this high is definitely "retina" from my own experience to the point where it's completely impossible to distinguish pixels in the screen.
Higher-resolution screens would be more expensive, require much more powerful hardware, have much bigger batteries, with shorter battery life, and slower performance in games in apps. And it provides 0-to-negligible value.
Why??
brotkasten
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To be fair, it's not officially supported or announced yet. It was the same with Zune Pass in the UK, right before the Windows Phone 7 launch.
Yeah I know, I just wanted to bitch about it
lastflowers
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I'm really impressed with the 810 <other than resolution>. If I were on TMobile and must have Nokia, I wouldn't be too depressed.
brotkasten
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Why?
Because they can.
In an industry, where all products look the same and mostly have the same guts, carriers and manufacturers need to 1-up their competitors with checklist features. Like when LG launched the first dual-core smartphone in Q4 2010/Q1 2011, even though Android 2.2 or whatever wasn't really that good at multi-threading and the second core was basically useless. Now it's 1080p and quadcores and maybe even 4 GB RAM.
Oh, that's okay. You joined the perfect thread for that.
And shit like this is why I'm still happy to use my 2-year-old Samsung Focus with a single-core 1GHz CPU and know that the interface will always be perfectly smooth, responsive, and run every single app from the store without issue.
For all my problems with Windows Phone, thank god these specs are standardized so that innovation can happen with stuff that actually matters.
brotkasten
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To be fair, before Jelly Bean, Android phones really needed all the raw power they could get to come close to that smoothness.
VanMardigan
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I think you're missing the point of this exchange. Nobody is saying the new 720p phones are inadequate. In fact, most are more "retina" than the iPhone. The question is about 4" phones, currently at wvga, meaning relatively low dpi, and why they are not getting higher resolution displays.
There's a 5" 1080p display out there, but I would never own a 5" "phone."
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I think most everyone is satisfied with the current crop of 300+ ppi displays. It's the WVGA displays that have me befuddled.
VanMardigan
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So, in terms of dpi, the current rankings are:
1080p 5" phone > 720p 4.3" or 4.5" phones (Lumia 920/HTC 8X) > iPhone 5 > 720p 4.8" phones (Galaxy SIII/Ativ S)
1080p 5" phone > 720p 4.3" or 4.5" phones (Lumia 920/HTC 8X) > iPhone 5 > 720p 4.8" phones (Galaxy SIII/Ativ S)
Just got a an unexpected update to Blueprints (3rd party tumblr app) updated to 0.3, which is technically still considered a beta app, and I'd just about given up on it, really really good start, but it was still really early and had a ton of rough corners. It had been a couple months since it debuted, and nothing, kinda quit using it. Dude that runs that app just knocked it out of the park with a really impressive update. Just rock solid design, highly usable now, visibly appealing, could easily be considered something akin to an official app.
Recommended.
Recommended.
Unknown Soldier
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Sticking the knife in Nokia's back and twisting it.
I don't think anyone will be holding out for the Kin 3 and 4. Sorry.
finally a good podcast player
http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=5d5cebe9-420a-4566-a468-04c94aa34d93
http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=5d5cebe9-420a-4566-a468-04c94aa34d93
Cnet has some 8x picture samples. Not bad, but not mind blowing.
Mr Schmidt puts MS below Facebook and Amazon.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/11/3487634/google-eric-schmidt-interview-apple-vs-google-ecosystems
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/11/3487634/google-eric-schmidt-interview-apple-vs-google-ecosystems
Rad
barkers crest
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Finally!
VanMardigan
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I usually have the opposite problem . I always get the clean version and it isn't always available.
Seconded, I've been waiting forever for this game.
That crap is usually the labels being the labels. Will be interesting to see how this XBOX Music "30 million" tracks alleviates stuff like this from happening.
Hopefully this is the last time this happens. Once WP8 is finally out I'm sure any further hardware announcements will be more similar to Apple.
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