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[VanMardigan]

Maybe its a new Sony Xperia phone with a non-shitty os!

I don't mind if it's a winRT show, the Apollo stuff is Wednesday.

 

[brotkasten]

Maybe its a new Sony Xperia phone with a non-shitty os!

I probably wouldn't care, because Sony's new-new Xperia phones like the GX or SX or whatever don't get me that excited. I really like that transparent stripe.

vs

All I know is that I'll get the Xperia S, should Apollo disappoint.

Speaking of phone designs, I can't stress enough how much I fucking hate micro-USB ports on the side or top of a phone. Keep it on the bottom, so I can use a damn dock and put it on my desk.

 

[thirty]

gotta be xbox music announcement. hope it goes multi platform in a big way.

 

[clav]

gotta be xbox music announcement.

That was E3.

 

[frontieruk]

See if you can get a Titan for cheap now that the 2 is out, also the 710 might be a good call. The OG Focus is ok, but if you can get one of the second gen phones that would be better.

Look for a Titan 1 or Focus Flash IMO.

Titan over the 710, if music is important to you the Focus over both.

 

[VanMardigan]

I probably wouldn't care, because Sony's new-new Xperia phones like the GX or SX or whatever don't get me that excited. I really like that transparent stripe.

All I know is that I'll get the Xperia S, should Apollo disappoint.

I've always loved Sony's phone designs. I remember owning a Sony Ericsson flip phone. For a flip phone, it looked really good.

edit: This one:

I'm still holding out hope that they'll join the WP8 fold. I mean, if they're using Krait for their Android phones, and WP8 will largely be using that chip in the fall, then why not just throw the software onto one of those phones? It's likely the same thing Samsung and HTC will be doing, and I don't mind if a One X WP8 variant is released either.

 

[thirty]

That was E3.

they didn't go into details though.

I heard the rumor is a MS buyout of Hulu.

 

[JaggedSac]

they didn't go into details though.

I heard the rumor is a MS buyout of Hulu.

Where did you hear that?

 

[Complex Shadow]

I probably wouldn't care, because Sony's new-new Xperia phones like the GX or SX or whatever don't get me that excited. I really like that transparent stripe.

vs

All I know is that I'll get the Xperia S, should Apollo disappoint.

You know what they say. Once you go android. You go blind.

 

[HollovVpo1nt]

I'm afraid to ask, but what do you guys have against Android?

 

[thirty]

Where did you hear that?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...018436152_my_guess_microsofts_buying_hul.html

someone's guess. NBC will takeover MSNBC and MS will take NBC's share of Hulu in return.

 

[JaggedSac]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...018436152_my_guess_microsofts_buying_hul.html

someone's guess. NBC will takeover MSNBC and MS will take NBC's share of Hulu in return.

Interesting, thanks.

 

[clav]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...018436152_my_guess_microsofts_buying_hul.html

someone's guess. NBC will takeover MSNBC and MS will take NBC's share of Hulu in return.

Why would MS need an event to announce this?

 

[brotkasten]

Why would MS need an event to announce this?

It's not any kind of acquisition.

That's what the invitation says

"You are invited to an exclusive Microsoft Media event in Los Angeles, California on Monday, June 18th. Doors open at 3:30 p.m."

 

[Good Job Bob]

I'm afraid to ask, but what do you guys have against Android?

jeal·ous/ˈjeləs/
Adjective:
Feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages.

 

[derFeef]

Fine Work Robert.

 

[brotkasten]

jeal·ous/ˈjeləs/
Adjective:
Feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages.

I wouldn't say jealous. We're just the Google+ users of the mobile world.

 

[Totakeke]

I wouldn't say jealous. We're just the Google+ users of the mobile world.

Nice.

 

[Commodore]

I wouldn't say jealous. We're just the Google+ users of the mobile world.

 

[antiquegamer]

I've always loved Sony's phone designs. I remember owning a Sony Ericsson flip phone. For a flip phone, it looked really good.

edit: This one:

I'm still holding out hope that they'll join the WP8 fold. I mean, if they're using Krait for their Android phones, and WP8 will largely be using that chip in the fall, then why not just throw the software onto one of those phones? It's likely the same thing Samsung and HTC will be doing, and I don't mind if a One X WP8 variant is released either.

I have that exact same phone. Too bad it was such a piece of craps which make me swore off any Sony phone.

Nokia is really getting plummeted, can Apollo save or will it be too late...

 

[clav]

Nokia is really getting plummeted, can Apollo save or will it be too late...

Maybe. For once, Nokia will have CDMA phones.

 

[zedge]

I wouldn't say jealous. We're just the Google+ users of the mobile world.

lol

 

[Commodore]

Maybe. For once, Nokia will have CDMA phones.

It'll be interesting if they can pull it off. It's a massive transition they've been in, trying to compensate for the bleeding lower end market they're loosing to Android and filling in with their Lumia line. It's more or less, draining faster than they can fill in right now. This next year will be telling for them as a company.

 

[thirty]

google plus now, google wave tomorrow.

I kid I kid.

 

[SpoonyBard]

Nokia Tablet?

Could be actually, Nokia's other cheap tablet project(s) was/were killed yesterday.

 

[Chanser]

So tempted to get a Lumia 900, but knowing they'll reveal Apollo in 5 days time makes it hard to resist.

 

[Vanillalite]

Maybe. For once, Nokia will have CDMA phones.

I thought CDMA being a thing was going to go away as soon as LTE hit anyways, but it appears that hasn't happened.

Where did I get this wrong in my brain?!?!

 

[thirty]

So tempted to get a Lumia 900, but knowing they'll reveal Apollo in 5 days time makes it hard to resist.

yeah, i think i woulda bit on the 900 if the glass was curved like the 800 screen, and if the camera didn't review so poorly.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Isn't Flash really not relevant on phones? My friends always bring this up to me for whatever reason, I don't see the need for it.

<3 Nanaca Crash

I wouldn't say jealous. We're just the Google+ users of the mobile world.

you guys got to double digits? congrats!

 

[Fatal Futanari]

I used to hate my android phone (had a Droid X) since it would always crash or freeze, even with custom roms. However, now that I have been with a Windows Phone (HTC Trophy 7) for about 2 months now....I miss android xD

 

[Commodore]

Could be actually, Nokia's other cheap tablet project(s) was/were killed yesterday.

Rumors are flying now that it's indeed a tablet, though not a Nokia built one, built at Redmond apparently. Interesting move, not too jazzed myself, tablets are low on my priority list, but bout time they made a play. #stillwantacourier

 

[strata8]

I used to hate my android phone (had a Droid X) since it would always crash or freeze, even with custom roms. However, now that I have been with a Windows Phone (HTC Trophy 7) for about 2 months now....I miss android xD

Why did you buy a 1st generation device in mid-2012?

 

[Fatal Futanari]

Why did you buy a 1st generation device in mid-2012?

Because I have Verizon

FYI, I got it off CL

 

[SpoonyBard]

Rumors are flying now that it's indeed a tablet, though not a Nokia built one, built at Redmond apparently. Interesting move, not too jazzed myself, tablets are low on my priority list, but bout time they made a play. #stillwantacourier

Yeah, I can't see myself buying an expensive tablet, and the cheap android tablets are shit. Nokia's Meltemi tablet could have been pretty cool, if it was cheap and ran as much smoother than Android as rumors say. Windows tablets are likely more expensive, but maybe they can be quite smooth as well...

 

[clav]

I thought CDMA being a thing was going to go away as soon as LTE hit anyways, but it appears that hasn't happened.

Where did I get this wrong in my brain?!?!

You're a GSM user, so I understand your confusion over how CDMA works.

LTE requires SIM cards as that will be the license/key to use the data network. The traditional features still use CDMA signals to transmit voice/text.

 

[The Faceless Master]

You're a GSM user, so I understand your confusion over how CDMA works.

LTE requires SIM cards as that will be the license/key to use the data network. The traditional features still use CDMA signals to transmit voice/text.

not only that, but while Verizon is using SIM cards, Sprint is using embedded internal sims.

 

[Firestorm]

I'm afraid to ask, but what do you guys have against Android?

Too much effort. If not WP7 I'd go with iOS. Every time someone talks about doing something with a custom ROM I zone out.

 

[brotkasten]

You're a GSM user, so I understand your confusion over how CDMA works.

LTE requires SIM cards as that will be the license/key to use the data network. The traditional features still use CDMA signals to transmit voice/text.

not only that, but while Verizon is using SIM cards, Sprint is using embedded internal sims.

And not only that, but the LTE networks from AT&T and Verizon are not compatible, because they still use different frequencies.

 

[clav]

I'm afraid to ask, but what do you guys have against Android?

Reminds me of Windows Mobile, so I don't feel like upgrading my phone.

 

[brotkasten]

Nokia is so done.

Nokia Takeover Seen as Collapsing Shares Signal Bottom: Real M&A


Nokia Oyj (NOK1V)&#8217;s steepest stock drop in more than a decade is turning the mobile-device maker into a potential takeover target for buyers willing to bet that it still has a future in smartphones.

Nokia plunged 18 percent yesterday after forecasting a wider second-quarter operating loss from handsets and saying it will cut as many as 10,000 jobs as it cedes market share to Apple Inc. (AAPL)&#8217;s iPhone and Samsung Electronics Co. devices. After wiping out about $100 billion in market value, Espoo, Finland- based Nokia trades at a 38 percent discount to its net assets, the least expensive on record, according to data compiled by Bloomberg dating back to 1995.

Once Europe&#8217;s most valuable company, Nokia is losing money as it tries to rebuild the smartphone business around Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)&#8217;s Windows Phone software and after failing to sell an unprofitable equipment venture with Siemens AG. (SIE) With the lowest price-sales multiple among communications-equipment makers, cash and short-term investments exceeding its $8.6 billion market value and more than 10,000 patent families, Nokia could attract Microsoft, said Falcon Point Capital LLC. It may even be cheap enough to lure buyout firms, Avian Securities LLC said.

&#8220;The key question is, can they do something to turn this into a growth business again?&#8221; Michael Mahoney, senior managing director at Falcon Point in San Francisco, said in a telephone interview. &#8220;If they can just make it grow, even a little bit, it&#8217;s very cheap.&#8221;

Doug Dawson, a spokesman at Nokia, declined to comment on speculation about a possible sale.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...collapsing-shares-signal-bottom-real-m-a.html

 

[strata8]

Too much effort. If not WP7 I'd go with iOS. Every time someone talks about doing something with a custom ROM I zone out.

Same here. I wanted iOS for the support (OS updates) and application consistency/performance, but the iPhone 4 was just a bit too expensive. Then I saw that my carrier was offering the Omnia 7 in a clearance sale for super cheap, so I did the research and decided that I'd give Windows Phone a shot. I haven't looked back since.

My friend picked up an Samsung Galaxy S+ recently and he's constantly telling me how awesome his phone is and how crap Windows Phone is as a whole, but I look over at him when he uses it and it's constantly lagging, glitching out, all of it. I don't think I could deal with that.

 

[Milchjon]

Poor Nokia. Doing the right thing isn't rewarded in this world.

Spoiler

I'm actually semi serious.

 

[JaggedSac]

Holy crap, they are about to be assimilated into one of the Borg collectives.

 

[everthustodeadbeats]

Nokia is so done.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...collapsing-shares-signal-bottom-real-m-a.html

That's not a warning sign at all. Windows phone, full steam ahead!

 

[kazinova]

So they planned to talk about WinRT but with the sudden turn of events the presser on Monday will be about the buyout of Nokia.

I mean, if it costs you the corporate equivalent of "the loose change in your pocket" to buy them, why not?

 

[VanMardigan]

Yeah, MS needs to buy them out already. Keep the brand separate, there is enough talent and heritage there for an apple-style comeback, albeit on a smaller scale.

 

[Complex Shadow]

I'm afraid to ask, but what do you guys have against Android?

you know when you run into a problem, and, at first your like, "hmm, i wonder what went wrong. itl be interesting to find out" but after like hours of wasted time and googling you end up with a crappy bandage "solution". you eventually go insane and burn your house down, hide the bodies and claim it was the neighbors dog.

thats basically android imo.

Yeah, MS needs to buy them out already. Keep the brand separate, there is enough talent and heritage there for an apple-style comeback, albeit on a smaller scale.

no they don't i am sure WP8 will fix everything..........

 

[thirty]

why I hate android? personally, I have a 20 month old gingerbread tablet. worked five when new, then you start filling it with apps and games and weird things happen. I started getting random restarts, annoying as hell. I fixed it by killing live wallpaper. now a new issue arises, constant apps updating and I'm always getting a low memory message. I transfer files over to the micro sd card, delete files, but the problem still exist. I've given up trying to fix it. damn apps are updating to work on more hardware configs and on newer OS builds, gingerbread is getting left behind. i'd say android devices are great for a yr, then they're garbage.

my nearly 2 yr old WP7 though is still buttery smooth.

 

[gcubed]

you're complaining about developers updating their apps?

 

[ElNino]

why I hate android? personally, I have a 20 month old gingerbread tablet. worked five when new, then you start filling it with apps and games and weird things happen. I started getting random restarts, annoying as hell. I fixed it by killing live wallpaper. now a new issue arises, constant apps updating and I'm always getting a low memory message. I transfer files over to the micro sd card, delete files, but the problem still exist. I've given up trying to fix it. damn apps are updating to work on more hardware configs and on newer OS builds, gingerbread is getting left behind. i'd say android devices are great for a yr, then they're garbage.

my nearly 2 yr old WP7 though is still buttery smooth.

This is similar to my experiences with WP7 and my BlackBerry Playbook which I bought during the clearance sales last Christmas.

While the OS itself is quick and responsive, when you open an app (even the built in email app) it often becomes terribly unresponsive. Even with a dual core processor and 1GB of memory, with only the email app open it has 30% or so of the memory available and apps will often force close when more than a few are open at a time.

Meanwhile, my Focus was still lightning quick after 1.5 years and my Lumia 900 is even better.