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Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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Daily Lives of High School Boys 9

I found the previous episode underwhelming, but this one was a great return to consistent hilarity. At its best this show strikes the perfect balance between the mundane and the insane. Almost everyone is somewhere between slightly unhinged (the drop-kicker girl) and totally unhinged (oh Ringo).

Poor Tada-whatever his name was.
 

Jex

Member
It is precisely because it goes beyond what many would do now in incorporating cues from many sources, without being strident. Like an homage and labor of love, I think it is an inspired work because retains many things from those four decades that Jexhius mentioned, and makes it fresh and well thought.

In other words, a lot of thought and care went into coming up with these designs. Presumably it was quite a lot of work, too. That seems fairly rare these days.
 

Mecha

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Lagrange 09:
Look at all that hardcore sci-fi mecha action. Truly the Evangelion of our generation.

Pretty standard "foreigners misunderstand everything about their new culture" story. The comedy bits worked while the expository portions felt... expository. I would definitely watch a spin-off of Kiss' misadventures in Kamogawa as long as they kept the stupid invasion plot on the sidelines.

I'm pretty content with my choice of dropping the show after the first episode so far. Going to suck if this gets into SRW, I'll have to force myself to watch it.
 

Jex

Member
I was going to say God in Maria Holic, but that doesn't fit your criteria. Hmmmm.. recently I would say Madoka in Rinne No Lagrange; however, I've only seen up to episode 3 and have no desire in seeing any more.

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Madoka is okay, but she's not in an interesting enough show to develop in an interesting fashion.
 

cajunator

Banned
Its bound to get pretty action packed at some point soon. There seems to be a background story building up and they are just filling in the voids with hnnng in the meantime.
 

Jex

Member
When it's trying to be a slice of life comedy is the only time Rinne is decent. When it does serious, it's pretty awful and uninteresting. The drama and politics in the show are not done well at all.

I don't necessarily think that the execution of these ideas is at fault - even if the direction for these scenes is fairly standard - I just think that conceptually and in the writing of the show itself those characters and situations are bland and clichéd.
 

Mecha

Member
Its bound to get pretty action packed at some point soon. There seems to be a background story building up and they are just filling in the voids with hnnng in the meantime.

Do the "hnnng" episodes add anything to the anime? Just so I might be able to skip them if I ever have to force myself to watch it.
 

cajunator

Banned
That is pretty much the problem with it. Its not BAD its just not very different from shows we've seen a billion times. To its credit, Lan is awesome and the show is really really pretty to look at.

Do the "hnnng" episodes add anything to the anime? Just so I might be able to skip them if I ever have to force myself to watch it.

Not much lately.
 

Jex

Member
Diebuster 5-6 / END
[...]I don't agree with pizzaroll; Gunbuster is the better show. Diebuster's art is busting at the seams with creativity, but it's thematically void of anything, and a lot of the show is supposed to be carried emotionally by a pair of characters that aren't relatable for opposite reasons. Gunbuster is thematically coherent (if a bit simplistic), consistent in its rules, and built on the backs of characters that at the very least are well-rounded and understandable. There's a unity between the elements of Gunbuster, where Diebuster feels a lot more scattershot. [...]

You're a good person.
What do all these words mean?

Sometimes facts are hard to grasp.
New art for Blood-C's movie by Kazuchika Kise, the character designer and animation director:

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I really like how she barely looks like a Clamp character now. Definite improvement.

I have to thank Japan for funding this glorious project. Truly, it's the movie that they deserve.
 
Bodacious Space Pirates 9 - This is the best anime in the last two years for sure. Not since Sora no Woto have I loved an anime this much... Space Pirates really is an anime take on Star Trek-style sci-fi television, and I loved shows like Star Trek, and like this too. It's just such a great show all around... sure, I could complain about some minor things, and have before, but overall they don't hurt it too much. They do affect it a little, but not a lot. Overall this is a fantastic series. Anime (that isn't made by ABe) doesn't get a lot better than this, really.

As for the episode... just watch it, it was great as always! It's got spaceships, school antics, a return of the Yacht Club, intrigue, Chiaki, and more, and it's all really good.

I found Yamada's struggle with envisioning herself smoothly accomplishing something, and then when she actually goes to do it, winding up thinking "oh god I can't do this, abort! abort!!" to be generally relatable and funny.
Yeah, that's true.

I didn't really take these "anime conventions" the way you did.
Kosuda's harem, if we want to call it that, exists as obstacles for Yamada, not an experience for Kosuda. And
him being an ordinary boy is part of the comedic contrast between Yamada's imagined super-playgirl self and the awkward first romance she actually experiences. She can't even successfully seduce this nobody.
Yamada's the focus of the story, and Kosuda just plays straight-man to her.
What kind of replacement for Kosuda would you have in mind? He needs to (a) not hook up with any other girls, (b) not be able to read Yamada's signals, (c) not be confident enough to persistently take initiative himself, (d) be intrigued/desperate enough to be willing to put up with Yamada's nonsense instead of blowing her off after a couple of weeks, and (e) not upstage Yamada.

I see how he can also be expected to serve as a self-insert character, but it seems like more of a side-thing than the main point. We don't see his point of view all that much, except to provide humorous contrast with Yamada's.
True, but I think that even if you don't see his perspective much, he clearly does serve as the self-insert character with a harem. Because that's what he is, and even though he doesn't realize it the audience does. I thought it was obvious why it's got that basic plot, and it's probably more because of trying to fit in the genre / do the expected than for the comedy elements. Because really, "most beautiful girl in school decides to date a completely generic guy" is a plot you go into for a reason, and not because of the excuse in the story. (I mean, yeah, you're right that you do need to come up with a character who fits most of those five things you point out, but still... she's the most beautiful girl in school, come on. It's a self-insert fantasy with a comically weird lead girl and some playing with the stereotypes that it also follows.) That doesn't mean I don't like the series, I do, or that I don't find it pretty funny, it is, it's just that I do have some issues with that central element.

Still, yeah, you're right that the perspective from the girl makes things different, as does that there's no acceptance of a harem at all and instead it's 100% a contest (
which Yamada wins
). It also is true that it messes with your expectations some, and that's both good and can be funny. But as I said, the series really does seem to be trying to have it both ways on both points, and I do think that's worth pointing out. Another example of this "being on both sides of the issue" thing is, in the manga, where Kanejou (and I don't know how this goes in the anime, she was just introduced late in ep. 3) (manga spoilers!)
is completely, to a comic degree (that room of stuff with his face on it... :lol), in love with her brother... but late in the series, after Yamada explains what sex is to her (in detail of course), she decides that she doesn't want to do that with him after all. I liked that it took that direction, but up to that point it's the usual anime incest plot that's about five thousand times too common.

It's also kind of odd that everyone else has a first name, but Yamada doesn't. She just has a family name. Strange.

Brushing one's teeth has been ruined forever. You can't really ruin brushing other people's teeth because that's a pretty unusual occurrence to begin with.
Pretty much, yeah. Seriously, this "brushing a girl's teeth moe" thing is creepy... what's to like about that, exactly? The idea that she's so helpless she can't brush her own teeth or something? I would hope it's just the pictures and not thoughts like that... :(

Yeah Im tired of the knife looking ships, surely the fleet in the sea of morningstar doesnt only pilot knives.
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It is an interesting design, though. I mean, I can't say that I've seen something quite like it before... maybe I could agree that their fleet could use a bit more variety, but think of sci-fi TV shows, in stuff like Star Trek each race generally has only a few basic ship designs...

This is a BAD idea.
Also using CG is no excuse for shitty spaceship design. the Bentenmaru looks pretty cool.
The airships in Last Exile were fucking awesome too.

The design of the sword-ship isn't bad, though. Kind of odd perhaps, but not bad... though sure, the Bentenmaru has a better design. (And yes, Last Exile definitely has good airship designs.)

I'm okay with Knifeships as long as they take the design in a crazy direction and give us Swordships, Pikeships, etc. When a fleet comes out of warp it'll look like the Gate of Babylon.

That'd be cool, yeah, and it would fit the theme.

Mouretsu Pirates of HNNNG 8

This show is really picking up. Definitely my favorite this season.

Before my....departure...I left off on episode 7. It appears the stowaway was
Usagi
. Well I guess she had to find SOMETHING to do once the show was over. She is also hnnnng as hell.
Naturally, she is from
royal blood
so they are quite anxious to retrieve her.
Marika decides to
hide her at the school amongst the students. A situation comes up with some sort of Ghost ship appearing nearby and Marika and her crew rush off to the Bentenmaru to contact it
. Then shit gets real. This show needs some new ship designs though.
Right, your departure... so have you written something for IS yet? I mean, you did watch it.

Anyway, just one correction here -- Marika doesn't really
hide the princess at the school. She comes right out and SAYS that the princess is at the school, in fact, I think; the idea was to make doing something to her harder by publicizing that she is there.

But yeah, great episode as always.

Moelicious Space Pirates 9


Well, in keeping with the previous arc, the resolution to the space battle was handled well
and without a fight as Princess Usagi invokes her authority to keep the peace. It will be interesting to see how the various political factions of Serenity will play out in future episodes, since even though there's fighting between them, they all obey the royal family
.
That was kind of an interesting solution to the problem, yeah... it wasn't quite what I expected, but it worked!

The preview for the next episode looks really exciting, whoever is making these previews deserves an award for managing to fit all the action of the episode into a 30 second clip! Well, even it isn't as action-packed as the previews would lead one to believe, this is still the best new show of the season.
The show may not be action-packed, but it's got enough of it. It doesn't need more.

Familiar of Zero F 09: You can go with this:

Or you can go with that:

Repeat ad nauseam. There's also some End of the World shenanigans that nobody gives a fuck about. God tier episode.#ican'tbelieveiamfappingtothis

The main problem with this series is that it's got virtually no plot progression of note. I watched about half of the first season, the first episode of season 2, and ep. 6 from season 3 here. No, I didn't review that episode, but I did watch it out of curiosity to see if it'd changed at all. Well, it hasn't. The plot, and the main characters' relationship, really hasn't changed more than a minute amount, and in a series like this that does get old after a while. I don't think I'll be watching more episodes.



A scheduler huh? Disappointment.

I'll agree with the other comments that new IS stuff is not at all disappointing, even a scheduler! :)

If I do it often enough you'll get used to it, then 4:3 anime just won't look right to you any more; a problem I live with every day. Misery loves company.
4:3 is the superior format, though! :)

Not today.

Not tomorrow.

Never.
Entirely agreed.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
The main problem with this series is that it's got virtually no plot progression of note. I watched about half of the first season, the first episode of season 2, and ep. 6 from season 3 here. No, I didn't review that episode, but I did watch it out of curiosity to see if it'd changed at all. Well, it hasn't. The plot, and the main characters' relationship, really hasn't changed more than a minute amount, and in a series like this that does get old after a while. I don't think I'll be watching more episodes.
Season four has been plot-wacky hijinx-plot-wacky hijinx. It's actually moving forward very rapidly, probably because of all the material they have to cover from the light novels.

I would enjoy season 4 a lot more if it were more wacky hijinx and less plot though.
 

Jex

Member
Hakugei: Legend of the Moby Dick 4

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Oh wow, I did not see that twist coming.
Lucky is a girl! I would not have guessed that at all from the character design.
Damn Dezaki, you got me.

That's a pretty glorious Dezaki postcard. Now you're making me want to check out the show!
 

cajunator

Banned
Well yes, I did watch IS but I haven't got much to say other than I did enjoy it for its utter stupidity, Charles in HNNNNG as fuck and the order goes: France, sister, China, Japan, Germany, everyone except Britain, a chair, Britain.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Well yes, I did watch IS but I haven't got much to say other than I did enjoy it for its utter stupidity, Charles in HNNNNG as fuck and the order goes: France, sister, China, Japan, Germany, everyone except Britain, a chair, Britain.
This ordering is almost as bad as Infinite Stratos. China and Japan were clearly trash tier.
 

sonicmj1

Member
I meant to do this sooner, but stuff.

Trapeze 10

I really liked this episode. It was especially interesting to me, because I also deal with anxiety and panic attacks, so I could relate a lot more closely to what the character in this episode was going through.

I thought using the idea of being swallowed in darkness as a visual metaphor for panic was a pretty effective one, even if it doesn't fully capture the helplessness of an attack. And I understood the character's attitude. It's easy to bottle it up and act above it at the times when it isn't affecting you, but trying to clamp everything down changes how you see yourself and makes it harder to address the sources of anxiety in your life.

Flashbacks were used in the episode very well, and when the character
is revealed to have been an old man the whole time
, it's something that makes sense from the cues they dropped earlier. It was actually very uplifting.

I expected Usagi Drop to be good, but I had no idea what Trapeze would be like going in. I'm delighted with how excellent it is.
 

Verelios

Member
Ano Hana was great. Outside of the part where you have to watch it.

Outside the parts where Menma was involved. Should've been just a slice of life anime about a bum ass schizo, and his shitty ass recluse life. Would have been awesome. Like N.H.K, but without the drugs (he's a schizo- hah, delusion Menma) and some bullying problems by Anaru's friends.
 

Instro

Member
That's a pretty glorious Dezaki postcard. Now you're making me want to check out the show!

The show is extremely Dezaki. Tons of postcards, triple pans/zooms, etc. Semi-related to that image I posted, but I'm really impressed by how the show portrays Captain Ahab. Just the various eye art alone for him speaks volumes about what is going on inside his mind, and the VA (Ohtsuka) sells it perfectly. Various uses of lighting and shading add to this as well. There are some scenes with Ahab in this show so far that are really amazing. The entire couples minute leading up to that postcard image was incredible.
 
Well yes, I did watch IS but I haven't got much to say other than I did enjoy it for its utter stupidity, Charles in HNNNNG as fuck and the order goes: France, sister, China, Japan, Germany, everyone except Britain, a chair, Britain.
You have the first one and last three right, but the others are in the wrong order...

(Also, where does Pika-tan go on your list? She should be there somewhere! :) )

My order:
France, Japan, Germany, China, everybody else, Britain. I could switch Germany and China on that list, I'm not certain between those two... the borderline-yandere tsundere, or the super ultra tsun and super ultra dere tsundere? I guess Germany edges China because Ichika as her wife is funny stuff. :) As for the sister... as his sister she's a fine character who'd rank high on the list (not above France, but maybe after that), but as a love interest she'd be below Britain. Fortunately she isn't really, I do think that they just have a relationship so close everyone else thinks of incest but they don't.

Also, I entirely agree about everyone else being better than Britain, but even a chair beats her out? That's kind of cruel... :) I hope it's a nice chair at least.

Season four has been plot-wacky hijinx-plot-wacky hijinx. It's actually moving forward very rapidly, probably because of all the material they have to cover from the light novels.

I would enjoy season 4 a lot more if it were more wacky hijinx and less plot though.

Oh, right, there are four seasons, I'd forgotten. I should have said that I watched ep. 6 of the current season, not season 3, so it was two seasons past the last episode of the show I'd watched, then, and as far as the relationship between the two main characters went, it'd barely changed at all. Or would it be more accurate to say that for every step forward they theoretically have in those episodes, they then take 99% of a step back, or more? That might be more accurate.

I don't know about the plot outside of their relationship though, that wasn't in that episode. But their relationship's pretty much unchanged, and given how central to the series it is...
 

Steroyd

Member
Amagami SS+ - 10

Worst girl is over with now onto fun senpai!

Ano Hana's biggest problem is that it just didn't know what the hell kind of show it wanted to be.

Oh it was clear that it wanted to be about 5 childhood friends who had parted ways while helping the 6th friend pass on, it was just missing that for 70% of the show.
 

zeroshiki

Member
What's annoying is that it had a great :firehawk premise but proceeded to drop the ball almost at once with ridiculous side stuff that would have been out of place in a 26 episode show but is just stupid for something as short as 11.
 
Black Rock Shooter 6

Counselor sure is acting different than normal.

These story developments are crazy. Not really sure what to think of them, but I'm intrigued. Action is as good as ever.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Ano Hana wanted to be a show about smelling a dead girl's dress, and it delivered on that pretty well.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Another 09
This show is starting to feel a little drawn out with the tape shenanigans. It probably doesn't help that the formula of every episode is the same, but it feels like the show has been getting worse with
useless
characters dying. It's really hard to be shocked or care when the extent of horror is supposed to be an image of
some guy I've never seen
postmortem.

I also have to wonder if the main character is deliberately trying to kill off the random side characters.
"What are you doing around here at school?"
"Well it's funny you mention it but I'm snooping around about THE CURSE. Maybe you heard about it? Have fun walking home, try not to walk near any sheets of glass."

My speculation about the need to
kill the "Another" to stop the curse
seems to be shaping up well at least. Shit would get pretty real if that happens.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Amagami SS: So this time around, the complication is that
the girl is too busy and he feels lonely
. Yeah, I guess this is why most sitcoms and romcoms do their best to delay the coupling for as long as possible - the alternative is just massively boring.

I was surprised that they gave her the
future epilogue
though. Why not, I suppose.
 

Steroyd

Member
Amagami SS: So this time around, the complication is that
the girl is too busy and he feels lonely
. Yeah, I guess this is why most sitcoms and romcoms do their best to delay the coupling for as long as possible - the alternative is just massively boring.

I was surprised that they gave her the
future epilogue
though. Why not, I suppose.

They already gave Haruka and Tachibana(?) an epilogue in the first season, but it does seem like they've been randomly put in for some reason.
 

wonzo

Banned
HidaSketch 5


The incredibly eccentric styling you'd usually expect from SHAFT really helped add to the rather feverish and disoriented nature of the dream sequences. Easily the most visually striking episode yet.

Kid Icarus 3D thing from P I.G. part 1

Awful. Production I.G. really put as little effort into this as they possibly could.
Did they finally start uploading that stuff onto the eShop/Nintendo Video thing?
 
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