Manga Entertainment have a stake in the series due to being co producers on the first film but by the time S.A.C was coming out Manga was a shell of its former self financially and lacked the means to release and market the series and so a deal was made with Bandai Entertainment or something along those lines, if the story is to be believed, right?
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Winter Anime 2016 |OT| Celebrating the New Year and PSO2's release in the west!
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AquaWateria
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Damn to think a ED that's visually abstract would be full of spoilers. Then again it's probably me being oblivious to it.
Now I'm really curious on what it's spoiling.
I think it's something close to this, but not quite. While they were a big enough production partner on the original film to have the North American (and UK) rights to it even today, I don't think they were as involved with Innocence. I'm not entirely sure of their involvement with SAC, but Bandai somehow got it through them. There was some sort of partnership between them.
On a related note, were the SAC compilation movies + Solid State Society BDs massively overprinted or something? I still see copies of those floating around at stores every now and then.
hosannainexcelsis
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Dagashi Kashi 2
Did Hotaru's breasts get bigger? Maybe I wasn't paying attention in the first episode, but the way her gigantic breasts spill out of her is rather disgusting, and reminds me of that one girl from Kamisama Dolls. In other character design news, Saya's fang rather annoys me as well.
The show in general is in this awkward place where it's not quite relaxed enough to take advantage of the rural setting but it's not quite energetic enough to take advantage of Hotaru's personality. So it just ends up in this passable middle. I think I'll set the show aside and see if I feel like coming back to it when it finishes.
The Gundam parody was pretty good though.
Also, looks like the OP will be decent when it gets finished.
Did Hotaru's breasts get bigger? Maybe I wasn't paying attention in the first episode, but the way her gigantic breasts spill out of her is rather disgusting, and reminds me of that one girl from Kamisama Dolls. In other character design news, Saya's fang rather annoys me as well.
The show in general is in this awkward place where it's not quite relaxed enough to take advantage of the rural setting but it's not quite energetic enough to take advantage of Hotaru's personality. So it just ends up in this passable middle. I think I'll set the show aside and see if I feel like coming back to it when it finishes.
The Gundam parody was pretty good though.
Also, looks like the OP will be decent when it gets finished.
And you know what? They did a damn fine job of it cause her design tickle in all right places no sexual pun intended. Utaha is best girl not like th rest of the trash girls.
John Blade
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Well...February is coming soon and was wondering if I should watch some romance anime in my collection in February or literally start watching Hentai and have an impression about and how bad (or good) the show is mostly target into the story and less in the action if you know what I mean.
Assuming very few people ever watched Junketsu no Maria, but I know that goes without saying.
ShinRPGamer
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When Bandai closed shop, everything GITS: SAC was transferred to Manga. It's less of it being overprinted and more Manga keeping it in print.
Garo the Animation - Episode 13
This is the traditional reconstruction and rebirth arc after a climatic event in fantasy stories, and it's handled really well. There's a marked difference in pace and everything feels more peaceful and leisurely, especially in Leon's part of the story. The idyllic tone actually feels somewhat tense though, because we know that in this sort of story, it never lasts, and the hero's baggage will eventually catch up with him and disrupt the peace.
I liked the direction here a lot. There are some very effective use of quick close ups shots of mundane day to day farming activities and wide shots showing the land and suggesting both the work left to be done as well as the fruits of their labor so far. Good direction goes a long way in selling a brand new setting to the viewer, especially in a limited runtime. It really feels like both Leon and Alfonso have spent quite a bit of time since the last episode, easing into their new roles and trying to better understand who they really are.
This is the traditional reconstruction and rebirth arc after a climatic event in fantasy stories, and it's handled really well. There's a marked difference in pace and everything feels more peaceful and leisurely, especially in Leon's part of the story. The idyllic tone actually feels somewhat tense though, because we know that in this sort of story, it never lasts, and the hero's baggage will eventually catch up with him and disrupt the peace.
I liked the direction here a lot. There are some very effective use of quick close ups shots of mundane day to day farming activities and wide shots showing the land and suggesting both the work left to be done as well as the fruits of their labor so far. Good direction goes a long way in selling a brand new setting to the viewer, especially in a limited runtime. It really feels like both Leon and Alfonso have spent quite a bit of time since the last episode, easing into their new roles and trying to better understand who they really are.
Ah, makes sense. Odd that they're not keeping the TV series in print, but I think they said that they weren't confident that a BD release of it over here would do as well as they needed it to, or something.
Dedication Through Light
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I hope CR gets this anime, awesome character design.
Kamiwaza Wanda anime announced for April 2016: youtu.be/kSUQmNG4epE
Kamiwaza Wanda anime announced for April 2016: youtu.be/kSUQmNG4epE
No more than other anime fans.
Didn't know animeGAFers worked as police.
NaDannMaGoGo
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Sukitte Ii Na Yo - 01
Off to a bad start. While the introduction of the girl and her troubles were solid I wasn't happy when the guy and his friend appeared. Not only is his friend this annoying pervert butt monkey, a type that I hope doesn't actually exist and is tolerated nearly as much as anime wants to make me believe, we immediately got some poor exposition to clarify that this main guy is, as so often, the super popular guy that's beloved by everyone.
We then get to know that this beloved guy also doesn't care about all these girls begging to be his girlfriend and he certainly doesn't put much value into boobs or looks in general, unlike his perverted friend.
When, thanks to pervert, he encounters our main girl twice he immediately takes interest in her.
So far sobad mediocre. I don't immediately mind this type of character but the introductions leave a bad taste already.
Where it turns sour, though, is how pop-guy manages to get closer to the girl. Well, at first he's just talking to her and apologizing for his stupid friend, so that's nice at least. But she rejects his advances anyways, although he does give her his phone number which she keeps.
Yeh...and then the girl gets stalked by someone after her bakery job and, when searching temporary escape in a supermarket and she can't reach her mom via phone she decides to call pop-guy after all. She could've called the police or tell the store clerk at least but her behavior is somewhat justified given her mistrust to other people and making stupid decisions when agitated.
So, having this rather extreme situation already to portray the main guy as the goodhearted hero is pretty poor taste in my mind but, Jesus fucking Christ, his idea of removing the stalker problem is by walking up to the guy (who patiently waited for over half an hour despite seeing the girl making calls, not particularly smart), saying "I love you" to her and kissing her for what seems to be quite the duration. While doing so he eventually also gives the stalker the stink eye which causes him to run off.
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The next episode(s) better 100% frame this behavior of his as completely moronic and detestable. Not just in terms of how to properly deal with a stalker (good thing he wasn't armed with a knife or s.th. and infuriated by your move on his target) but also dealing with an introverted girl which isn't really close to you and stated as much. He must've been aware she would've (or should...who knows how this show is going to portray that) never agreed to such a thing.
Off to a bad start. While the introduction of the girl and her troubles were solid I wasn't happy when the guy and his friend appeared. Not only is his friend this annoying pervert butt monkey, a type that I hope doesn't actually exist and is tolerated nearly as much as anime wants to make me believe, we immediately got some poor exposition to clarify that this main guy is, as so often, the super popular guy that's beloved by everyone.
thanks for reminding him!
We then get to know that this beloved guy also doesn't care about all these girls begging to be his girlfriend and he certainly doesn't put much value into boobs or looks in general, unlike his perverted friend.
When, thanks to pervert, he encounters our main girl twice he immediately takes interest in her.
So far so
Where it turns sour, though, is how pop-guy manages to get closer to the girl. Well, at first he's just talking to her and apologizing for his stupid friend, so that's nice at least. But she rejects his advances anyways, although he does give her his phone number which she keeps.
Yeh...and then the girl gets stalked by someone after her bakery job and, when searching temporary escape in a supermarket and she can't reach her mom via phone she decides to call pop-guy after all. She could've called the police or tell the store clerk at least but her behavior is somewhat justified given her mistrust to other people and making stupid decisions when agitated.
So, having this rather extreme situation already to portray the main guy as the goodhearted hero is pretty poor taste in my mind but, Jesus fucking Christ, his idea of removing the stalker problem is by walking up to the guy (who patiently waited for over half an hour despite seeing the girl making calls, not particularly smart), saying "I love you" to her and kissing her for what seems to be quite the duration. While doing so he eventually also gives the stalker the stink eye which causes him to run off.
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The next episode(s) better 100% frame this behavior of his as completely moronic and detestable. Not just in terms of how to properly deal with a stalker (good thing he wasn't armed with a knife or s.th. and infuriated by your move on his target) but also dealing with an introverted girl which isn't really close to you and stated as much. He must've been aware she would've (or should...who knows how this show is going to portray that) never agreed to such a thing.
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I can't find the source now but I remember somebody (maybe it was Jerome from Manga UK) stating that they wouldn't mind bring S.A.C over to the UK on BD if somebody would share the costs with them. Germany got S.A.C on BD last year (link). Frustrating when you know you read something but can't find it, oh well
Maybe it was a dream....names2hard4you
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Snow White with the Red Hair 13-14
I said I didn't feel like watching the second season, but this show was such a comfy watch way back when that I just kinda knew I would jump back in eventually. Nothing's changed, it's more Shirayuki which is great
I said I didn't feel like watching the second season, but this show was such a comfy watch way back when that I just kinda knew I would jump back in eventually. Nothing's changed, it's more Shirayuki which is great
veloxStrix
Banned
Getting to see some of the reactions to Perfect Blue was better than the watching the actual movie.
After rewatching Towanoquon and starting up Garo again, I'm starting to get this feeling again that I should put off most shows airing in the season. I find it really liberating and enjoyable being able to watch a complete existing series at any pace I choose, and knowing that if I feel like watching more it's always there, and if I don't, it won't be going anywhere. I have a backlog of shows from the last year or so (including older stuff I promised to watch like Mononoke and Trapeze!) which should definitely keep me busy enough even if I don't watch a single new episode for the rest of this season. After all, by the time the season ends, anything I'm watching in it can easily be caught up on in a week or two at most, rather than waiting week by week and having to deal with cliffhangers and delays and whatnot. Is this a common feeling?
It's a powerful film.
*frantically adds Dagashi Kashi to watchlist*
ShinRPGamer
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Uh, the TV series is still in print. I can still get the series on Amazon in fact.
Also Manga need to have more faith in their fans. I know I would double dip for GITS: SAC in HD.
Not for me, but I know plenty of others who do this. Nothing wrong with it at all! You have some pretty great stuff in your backlog if Mononoke and Trapeze are there, so take the time to watch those. You won't regret it!
Thank you for recommending Skull Man, by the way. I'm on episode 12 right now and it's been a very exciting watch!
Well, you're right! There's even copies on Amazon.ca. I'm surprised!
As for having faith in their fans... considering that they hardly exist in North America anymore, it's a bit difficult. They're just apart of Anchor Bay now. I'm not even sure if they have any dedicated staff; they may just be a label at this point.
veloxStrix
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It really is though. As far as Satoshi Kon's work goes, it has the most "live-action" feel - the cuts are quick but nothing like the 2 frame cuts from Millennium Actress - and most of the people who are here watching have probably seen Requiem for a Dream which "borrows" a couple of scenes from this. I didn't see anyone leave, so it must have been a hit.
I felt the same way last couple of seasons, I watch an episode or two to see if it's good then just drop/put it in the back burner until it finishes. It works with my schedule and I get an idea of what to watch and what to skip. Watching too much anime burned me out on the medium quite a while back, and I'm just now trying to ease myself back by watching short anime or anime of known-quantity.
Well, it's not like I am going to drop everything I'm watching this season, but I'm definitely considering putting some on hold for a few weeks... probably starting with Snow White because it really doesn't matter when I watch that. Lol. After this week's Haikyu I might rest it too, just so I don't have to deal with the cliffhangers for matches during the tournament between episodes. Lol.
Skull Man rocks, glad you enjoyed it! Now to get more people to watch Fantastic Children....
It's interesting to think about this: Perfect Blue is Kon's most grounded and realistic film in the same way Tokikake is Hosoda's most grounded and realistic film. Both also mark the point early in the directors' respective careers where they became a known to a wider audience. But for Miyazaki it is the reverse. The Wind Rises is his most grounded and realistic film, and it could well be he last full length feature film. Lol.
hosannainexcelsis
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That's a sensible approach. The best part of watching a series as it airs is that it usually ensures you'll have other people to discuss it with, which becomes less and less of a possibility the older you go (same with films, games, and any media). But dealing with a serialized narrative at an externally imposed pace can get annoying. Watching something completed means you can cluster together or spread out your viewing as you desire, depending on the nature of the series and your interest in it. TV series are moving more in this direction anyway as their consumption moves from actual TV channels to streaming services such as Netflix and Amazon, who release entire seasons at once instead of using the traditional weekly model. I'm curious if there'll be anime series that start getting released in this way, though the realities of production make that more difficult, as production committees usually want a return on their investment as soon as possible instead of waiting for an entire TV season to be animated.
Personally, I like having a balance of ongoing shows and completed shows to follow. Though even with currently airing shows, it's not like I try to watch everything as soon as it comes out. I'm not watching this on actual broadcast TV where I have to tune in at a particular time, and I don't want watching TV to feel like a job, because it's not my job.
:lol
ShinRPGamer
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I'm pretty sure their only employee is whoever runs Manga US' Twitter account. Regardless, I feel that Manga is going to take the plunge and release it on Blu-Ray eventually. Even Anchor Bay has to realize that there is a considerable amount of people that want GITS:SAC HD.
Yeah I love Perfect Blue, one of my favorite animated films and a lot of it has to do with like you said how un-animated (traditional) it feels. There was a discussion in this thread not too long ago in regards to how rare it is to see a work in the animated medium that is structured and treated like a live-action show/film and how animated shows/films tend to try and separate themselves from live action works, utilizing every trick in the book in order to exaggerate the often whimsical nature of animation and what the blank canvas allows for the directors to do that they often forget that they can just make a great show with a great cast, script and story while still being animated. Perfect Blue could and has been told in live action but there's something to Satoshi Kons animated opus that would have been lost in live action.
hosannainexcelsis
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Snow White with the Red Hair 2
I'm not a fan of the way the noses are sometimes drawn.
When you're drawing a nose, either draw a line/dot or make it more fully formed. Don't just throw a second line into the mix and leave it at that. It loses the advantage of either having smooth rounded facial features or realistic detailed features and just looks awkward.
Also, it's fine for now, but I hope the whole series isn't just creeps trying to capture Shirayuki for her red hair. (Is she the only person in the world with it or something?)
I'm not a fan of the way the noses are sometimes drawn.
When you're drawing a nose, either draw a line/dot or make it more fully formed. Don't just throw a second line into the mix and leave it at that. It loses the advantage of either having smooth rounded facial features or realistic detailed features and just looks awkward.
Also, it's fine for now, but I hope the whole series isn't just creeps trying to capture Shirayuki for her red hair. (Is she the only person in the world with it or something?)
Anchor Bay isn't exactly a company that's very in touch with the anime fanbase. Even with good sales of the original film on BD, I'm not sure if they'd be willing to do two seasons of a TV anime with 26 episodes each. They might just see it as too much work for hardly any gain compared to the movies they put out usually.
Who knows though! Maybe they'll see how BD sales for anime are growing and decide to give it a shot. Maybe someone will partner with them to do it. Stranger things have happened in the North American anime industry.
John Blade
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Which remind me....need to look into Ghost in the Shell Franchise as I never have a chance to watch them entirely. I guess, this franchise will be something I should watch sometime in the summer. For now, it's Sakura Taisen for me till I finish this franchise.
AquaWateria
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She's just that special lol.
Honestly though if you dislike misunderstanding and unnecessary drama that seems forced then Snow White is a good watch because it lacks that. It's a really comfy sol romance that has a competent female MC.
Cornbread78
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Cat Planet Cuties ep.1
Holy shit, what did I just watch? SliceSabre must have seen this one. This has to end up as some kinda insane harem; it just has to. The story is already off the rails in ep.1 with multiple factions all trying to kill the kitty alien and the boy she went home with. Oh goodness...
Holy shit, what did I just watch? SliceSabre must have seen this one. This has to end up as some kinda insane harem; it just has to. The story is already off the rails in ep.1 with multiple factions all trying to kill the kitty alien and the boy she went home with. Oh goodness...
John Blade
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Cat Planet Cuties ep.1
Holy shit, what did I just watch? SliceSabre must have seen this one. This has to end up as some kinda insane harem; it just has to. The story is already off the rails in ep.1 with multiple factions all trying to kill the kitty alien and the boy she went home with. Oh goodness...
I was about to buy this collection on the RightStuff holiday sale but I guess the harem is something I try to avoid in my show.
cj_iwakura
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Now if imagine where Baccano ended, instead of going out with a bang, it decided to just keep making things more awesome and adding more characters the next season.
That's Durarara.
It's cool, but like I mentioned in a post not too long ago I think the second season has way too many characters and plot threads, making it a lot less enjoyable than S1 was for me.
That's not to say that Durarara S2's bad, but I'd rank it below S1, which would be below Baccano.
Edit: Actually, the latest season is also included in that comment. Watching it on a weekly basis makes it that much harder to keep track of every character and their relationships with each other. Durarara's whole thing being about how everybody has a less savory side of their own that they hide from others means it's hard to track everyone, their secrets and who among the rest of the cast is aware of them.
cj_iwakura
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Heh, and the new season is already adding even more. I love trying to keep track of the different threads, and they do a good job of keeping the viewer updated on the connections. Some of the characters are just as perplexed, namely Celty.
As long as someone is willing to pay for it, studios have no objection to this. IIRC, Heroman was produced in similar circumstances as the western style of production is to finish an entire series before airing it, and that was a requirement the US side wanted. They spent 2 years making it before it aired in Japan. It was funny because TV Tokyo clearly had everything in advance, and when they suffered that infamous Youtube leak because someone running their channel set privacy incorrectly, Heroman had a couple of episodes leaked which weren't meant to air for I think 2 months? Lol.
hosannainexcelsis
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Wish Upon the Pleiades 1-2
Cat Planet Cuties ep.1
Holy shit, what did I just watch? SliceSabre must have seen this one. This has to end up as some kinda insane harem; it just has to. The story is already off the rails in ep.1 with multiple factions all trying to kill the kitty alien and the boy she went home with. Oh goodness...
Its fun. Am bummed again its a series where the source is not accessible as it went on a long time and only a snippet got animated.
Cornbread78
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No harem yet, but this is some over the top stuff, lol. Childhood friend, check. Mysterious/quiet girl, check. Flousy , hot, alien chick, check. It could come, lol.
hosannainexcelsis
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That's hilarious. But yeah, I'm sure animators wouldn't mind actually getting the chance to properly polish before they have to put out a product.
I wonder if there will be any backlash to that model given how it tends to only get one PR attempt and no real way to build an audience over time.
Personally I think thats part of why I have trouble getting into those shows. I much prefer watching week to week and discussing the show between episodes. Its a spoiler nightmare too.
It is part of why I still haven't watched Jessica Jones but have gotten back into the DC shows. That and the tone differences.
SliceSabre
Banned
Yes I've seen it.Cat Planet Cuties ep.1
Holy shit, what did I just watch? SliceSabre must have seen this one. This has to end up as some kinda insane harem; it just has to. The story is already off the rails in ep.1 with multiple factions all trying to kill the kitty alien and the boy she went home with. Oh goodness...
The tits were nice and made it worth it.
Oh, I just remembered another BONES series that had that luxury, kinda. X'amd was a PSN VOD title when it launched, and it was clear that when it first went up, they were already done with the first cours, since a ton of footage from later episodes was in the very first trailer. After the first 13 episodes, the VOD schedule actually went on break for a few months so production could catch up, before realigning with the JP launch of the VOD (which was delayed from the English one), and finishing the second half of the series.
So yeah, experiments like that certainly do exist, and the big question I guess is.... when is Netflix going to start bankrolling anime directly because I think once that happens we'll see exactly what you mentioned.
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