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Winter Anime 2016 |OT| Celebrating the New Year and PSO2's release in the west!
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Wait, Rock has another role? Because all I remember of Rock is his constant belittling of Revy and the BS way he manhandles her early on when she tries to kill him. Which was fucking bullshit by the way. Shoulda just sent rock to stop Roberta lol.
Plus, Strike Witches sucks, stop getting people to watch it. Ya'll are the reason there's more Strike Witches than Spice and Wolf.
Who's the purple one? I don't remember her.
In the second episode he helps kill a guy by firing a missile from a boat into a helicopter while yelling "GET FUCKED". Black Lagoon is about the slow, but steady corruption of Rock. Not really the same as Sakura's role in Code;Breaker.
Sailor Saturn
Sibersk Esto
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I'm pretty sure Rock's "role" in Black Lagoon is to try and stay decent when the world around him urges him to become just as bad as everyone else.
Admiral Woofington
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Is there a sailor Pluto? If so was she kicked out of the team?
ZachDeKoromaru
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No that's various production committees and the publisher plus the fact that it's finished, nerd! If it were up to me everyone in the industry would be adapting Spice and Wolf right now, but luckily there's more Strike Witches news in the next couple weeks.
I don't feel it goes that way. That's a situation of you versus them, the people in the helicopter wanted him dead, his company wanted him dead, the people in the boat, indifferent, only a fool would have taken any other course. The whole rest of the series is basically Rock playing the morally superior card and partaking in everything as little as he can while shitting on everyone around him.
I don't want to say it's even about corrupting Rock, he's just a piece of shit to begin with.
so lucky...
I don't really agree with this assessment. I admit a lot of it is only because of the situation he's in, but Rock stays in the situation he's in because on some level he thinks it's better than the situation he was in back home.
Rock's whole character in Roberta's Blood Trail is him manipulating others and enjoying it. Sure, it's to save people in the long run, but he's clearly changed from the Rock in episode one, with characters telling him he's changed and him reflecting on that in the end. He's also taking an active role rather than just yelling from the sidelines I feel.
Baroquemantic
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Overlord 4
Damn yo. Head Warrior held his own for a good bit. Nice.
I love how incredibly badass protag and his squad are. It's not even fair to all these scrubs they're fighting. Honestly, I wouldn't even be mad if they steamrolled every single opponent throughout the rest of the season. It'd be nice to have an anime where every fight is one-sided.
Damn yo. Head Warrior held his own for a good bit. Nice.
I love how incredibly badass protag and his squad are. It's not even fair to all these scrubs they're fighting. Honestly, I wouldn't even be mad if they steamrolled every single opponent throughout the rest of the season. It'd be nice to have an anime where every fight is one-sided.
Hellwarden
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Revy has also definitely softened up from the early seasons, primarily due to caring about Rock. Now she finds herself worrying about Rock and the effect Roanapur is having on him.
Their relationship has kind of flipped.
Their relationship has kind of flipped.
Hellwarden
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It's still on hiatus I think. Last release was in 2014.
Snow White Episode 8
Well this is off to a delightful start. And a flashback! Wait why isn't this character in the pres-he's dead.
He got killed super hard. Okay. Weird sudden shift to violence to be honest. I gotta say, this show doesn't do action very well.
Kind of a middling episode to be honest.
i think in black lagoon's universe being human means you're a piece of shit. i don't remember a lot of unambiguously innocent or good characters. mainly just pieces of shit.
Guess again.
This is the correct answer.
It came off hiatus with the publishing of volume 10 and about 1 or 2 new chapters in early-mid 2014.
Then it went right back on hiatus. Rei Hiroe hasn't done anything since other than a couple of character designs for unrelated projects and a Sword Art Online ero doujin in late 2014.
Hellwarden
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Baby Steps is more educational than Haikyuu when it comes to sports.
At least it's not Touhou futanari doujins this time.
any list that includes skip beat for any reason is fine by my books even if it uses the grossly overrated volleyball anime over baby steps
more people need to love skip beat so I can get a new anime for it some day
the list could go on and on for that one
but baby steps and Ippo are at the top for educational sports shows for me. (i've haven't seen all sports shows ever though, for example I have avoided the basketball ones so far)
I am trying to remember if Giant killing was good about it as well... or really I am trying to remember why I think giant killing is a really good sports anime, yet I cant remember much about it at all >.<
PdotMichael
Banned
So the GuP movie gets additional 4DX screenings next month
BD release never.
BD release never.
Well I like some suggestions there. Not that I think ann articles are bad as a rule either.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
After reading a summary of it, we really need a White Album 2 Concluding Chapter adaptation
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with the Kazusa true route of course
PdotMichael
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It's crazy that the announcement for the new TV anime was two years ago.
I am surprised a bit that they didn't make an ova out of the final chapter. Or disappointed might be a better term.
MikeHattsu
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Now watch the live action TV special/movie that was released last year ;p
It's up on Crunchyroll.
I only watched a few episodes but Baby Steps had like no understanding of tennis from what I remember. Like nothing about it was based in reality and you're not going to pick up stuff about tennis from it.
Why I like mysteries in general, Conan's nearly always tend to be:
- Bad guy kills someone in a place where Kogoro is, or even invited him to set the crime up for some stupid reason. If he was uninvited, cue people saying "Kogoro... You mean THE Sleeping Kogoro?" and then carrying the crime out anyway
- Three suspects: the obvious (red herring), the one they investigate second and who's also innocent, and the one with an airtight alibi (always the culprit)
- The cops allow Conan, his friends, Ran and Sonoko into crime scenes and stuff because reasons (the show even lampshades this every now and then)
- Conan going "naruhodo, sou iu koto ka" and constant use of "that person" in his internal monologues to show he knows without telling the audience outright
- Sleeping Kogoro routine, murderer breaks down and we get a motive rant. Common motives include the victim being related with a murderer's relative's death and misunderstanding the victim (and then lamenting having killed him/her during the motive rant)
- Alternatively, detective boys rescue puppies from exploding mail delivery trucks and/or other boring/inconsequential cases
- Black organization cases get more and more over the top without Kudo ever getting any closer to getting his old appearance back
- A huge cast of characters that have been flanderized to hell (ie: Megure, whose vocabulary now consists of two words: "naruhodo" and "nani?!")
Admittedly my sport anime experience is low, but to me it seemed pretty grounded and provided real details about playing the sport.
I don't really care about "sports anime" or whatever, but Baby Step's heavily strategic interpretation of tennis comes across as disingenuous and fallacious. The parts I watched didn't really leave an impression that the author really had any perspective on technique inside the game either.
Compared to this, Berserk fans can never feel bad again.
Admiral Woofington
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Apparently they got off the boat but I never even realized it because fuck the pain away
LOL at Neil holding a picture of Sailor Pluto and her "angry statement."
I heard that Rei Hiroe was doing whatever for money, but I didn't imagine this.
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as someone who has played tennis for fun for the last 8 years I felt like it was really grounded in reality and there was plenty to pick up from it
Haikyuu on the other hand does not feel that way. it has some stuff of interest but plenty of stuff that is just out there.
I mean a volleyball net is set at 7 feet 11 5/8 inches so basically 8 feet. (they are guys in high school so I imagine they would have it at regulation men's height as the net is really only lowered for guys under 14)
our main character is 162.8 cm (5' 4")
we often see him spike from a spot that results in about half of his body above the net and half below.
lets say that it's more only 40% of his body above though so basically 3 feet of his body is below the net.
8-3 is 5 feet. or around 60 inches, which is the all time record height recorded for a vertical jump.
even if we give wiggle room a lot of vertical jump records for sports are closer to 45 inches
even without taking his best jumps we often get jumps that are about a foot over the net with his head which would be on average on par with world records for basketball and NFL players. It looks great but is just silly when you start to think about it
(it looks good though which is the point as you aren't supposed to worry about the physics/technical stuff)it's been a while since i have seen the first few episodes, but a ton of the training through out the series goes into good detail about stuff and makes sense including plenty of stuff about techniques. It feels a lot like ippo in that sense where they take a lot of time to cover how things work. though ippo does a lot of making it look flashy with the actual fights (which is fine it would be boring if it wasn't so flashy)
PdotMichael
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There is that Omakebon from the Summer Comiket. Released under his porn name Red Bear.
Osamatsu-san - 1,2
Holy crap at the first episode,the plot on them trying to become popular by imitating all of the anime tropes was just amazing. I laughed so loudly through the entire thing. And all those parodies, I can see why it was taken down. XD Also I didn't know these characters were decades old, the show started out as black and white!
The second episode is the show proper, with the format being two stories per episode it seems. And I like what I saw, it's extremely funny. Standout moments for me were the whole factory introduction, and Osomatsu's attempt at trying to get one of his brother to hook up with Nyan chan along with the application of the bleep censor.
Chihayafuru - 1,2
Karuta, so it's basically Egyptian Ratslap...
Okay no, I'm just kidding. ^_^ It's an interesting game, combining poetry with reflex, speed, and memory. I liked the parts where they showed the game. Didn't care much for the high school crap. The flashback was much better. Oh and this better not become a love triangle between those three, ugh.
Mononoke - 1,2
I didn't know what to think of the Japanese painting style look the show has, but it was used to such great effect once the story delved into the whole evil spirits part that I don't have doubts about it anymore. It is incredible and it helps that the direction helps create some intense feelings.
In essence the story is a mystery that involves spirits that haunts the inn room, and basically the medicine seller is the detective that solves the mystery, since that is the only way for him to use the sword and exorcise the demon. Meaning the haunting itself has a whole story behind it that has to be uncovered. The story tackled in this show is mature, dealing with
It also ties in very well with the story of a mistress who
. In essence it is what I look for in a good mystery, the puzzle along with the human aspect of it. The show tells its story subtly too, with a lot of the facts left between the lines. Can't wait to watch the rest of the show.
Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju - 2,3
Great story of how Yakumo initially was forced into Rakugo and disliked it but then grew to love it in part due to his friendship with Sukeroku. Show does a great job showing what a mediocre Rakugo performance looks like vs a competent one. Once again, compliments to the voice actors for the Rakugo portions.
Holy crap at the first episode,the plot on them trying to become popular by imitating all of the anime tropes was just amazing. I laughed so loudly through the entire thing. And all those parodies, I can see why it was taken down. XD Also I didn't know these characters were decades old, the show started out as black and white!
The second episode is the show proper, with the format being two stories per episode it seems. And I like what I saw, it's extremely funny. Standout moments for me were the whole factory introduction, and Osomatsu's attempt at trying to get one of his brother to hook up with Nyan chan along with the application of the bleep censor.
Chihayafuru - 1,2
Karuta, so it's basically Egyptian Ratslap...
Okay no, I'm just kidding. ^_^ It's an interesting game, combining poetry with reflex, speed, and memory. I liked the parts where they showed the game. Didn't care much for the high school crap. The flashback was much better. Oh and this better not become a love triangle between those three, ugh.
Mononoke - 1,2
I didn't know what to think of the Japanese painting style look the show has, but it was used to such great effect once the story delved into the whole evil spirits part that I don't have doubts about it anymore. It is incredible and it helps that the direction helps create some intense feelings.
In essence the story is a mystery that involves spirits that haunts the inn room, and basically the medicine seller is the detective that solves the mystery, since that is the only way for him to use the sword and exorcise the demon. Meaning the haunting itself has a whole story behind it that has to be uncovered. The story tackled in this show is mature, dealing with
an inn that used to be a whorehouse and haunted by the spirits of aborted fetuses.
flees to the inn in order to escape from being killed for trying to have the baby
Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju - 2,3
Great story of how Yakumo initially was forced into Rakugo and disliked it but then grew to love it in part due to his friendship with Sukeroku. Show does a great job showing what a mediocre Rakugo performance looks like vs a competent one. Once again, compliments to the voice actors for the Rakugo portions.
it is, it's all in the title. it's about baby steps.
it's about taking a lot of small steps to eventually cover a great distance.
they repeatedly break down the small steps to take and allow him to keep growing as a player. It's not completely grounded, but compared to most other sports shows it feels very grounded.
double so if you compare it to prince of tennis lol (though to be fair I am hard pressed to think of a sports show that is less grounded than POT)
one of the main reasons I adore baby steps though is because it takes the time to slowly build him up. allowing him to slowly figure out how to take his baby steps and turn them into real weapons (often during a match which is in fact not super grounded but it's gotta be exciting some how as we don't have any explosions
)I am not saying the show is perfectly grounded. obviously japan is way to good in tennis in the series. but that is just playing to the market, and some of the enemies he faces are a bit out there but still feels way better than haikyuu to me.
There is more to capturing a sport in creative media than the realistic interpretation of size or physical feat. Haikyuu finds the spirit of the sport through the passion of the players, and this often comes out in dramatic ways that sell the enthusiasm onscreen. The strong physical sensations of barely covering a spike, popping the ball into the air, and delivering the ball back at the enemy with a powerful swing is the core loop to volleyball and Haikyuu is able to really convey what that experience is like. Even around that though the series is able to properly wield its technical terms, and even if those can seem larger than life at times their purpose is generally captured.as someone who has played tennis for fun for the last 8 years I felt like it was really grounded in reality and there was plenty to pick up from it
Haikyuu on the other hand does not feel that way. it has some stuff of interest but plenty of stuff that is just out there.
I mean a volleyball net is set at 7 feet 11 5/8 inches so basically 8 feet. (they are guys in high school so I imagine they would have it at regulation men's height as the net is really only lowered for guys under 14)
our main character is 162.8 cm (5' 4")
we often see him spike from a spot that results in about half of his body above the net and half below.
Nothing about Baby Steps feels like tennis. Movement and positioning are the most important aspect of tennis, but everything about the series visually and mentally feels sluggish and sparsely animated. It's ruinous. Trying to watch something about tennis where the players have no follow through makes me wanna barf. The animation is limited to such a point that the players stop feeling real, because they do not move or carry momentum, and the quick back and forth flashbacks set up lazy blocking and framing. Because of this you lose the entire theme of tennis.
Haikyuu's subject matter is inherently easier to work with. In volleyball you respond to the ball coming on to your side of the net by setting everything up again with your own team. This gives time for the viewer to develop things once again, and the specific positioning of players isn't always central to conveying how they attack or defend. The immediate back and forth in tennis means each players shot is largely informed by what their opponent hit to them. Baby Steps takes quick cuts with lots of close ups that make tracking the movements of the ball and how each hit is informed an impossibility. It doesn't help that Studio Pierrot just doesn't bother drawing shadows so there's a missing layer of perspective. Form, technique, and movement are central to tennis and they just get thrown under the bus. Baby Steps is garbage on its own but I absolutely hate how it tries to convey tennis, even outside of the dumb note taking protagonist.
nvm
The second of Gen Urobuchi's two Black Lagoon novels is still untranslated, so it's not like we're completely out of untranslated Black Lagoon content. Maybe someday someone competent might pick it up.
EDIT: In case anyone is thinking "oh god Urobuchi doing Black Lagoon, sure is gonna be a dark arc", this is the pullout color illustration from the second volume and the top two illustrations here are also from the second volume (the bottom one is from his first Black Lagoon novel, which is translated). The first volume has some of the funniest stuff in Black Lagoon even when including all of the original manga, so I really want to see the second volume released someday.
EDIT: In case anyone is thinking "oh god Urobuchi doing Black Lagoon, sure is gonna be a dark arc", this is the pullout color illustration from the second volume and the top two illustrations here are also from the second volume (the bottom one is from his first Black Lagoon novel, which is translated). The first volume has some of the funniest stuff in Black Lagoon even when including all of the original manga, so I really want to see the second volume released someday.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Hi Score Girl? It was supposed to get an anime at some point but the lawsuit probably halted that.
...But 1, 2, and 4 are symptoms of most detective fiction and they definitely don't settle into as broad of categories as you're suggesting. Especially 4. I'm trying to imagine something like Murder on the Orient Express with Poirot explaining the details of the mystery as he's discovering them. The entire point of the serialized episodes is to determine who the culprit is before Conan does and to have an elaborate deduction show revealing it at the end. Which is also why 5 has to exist, despite how lofty that can get from episode to episode. I'll give you that the motivations can be pretty weak, especially for TV originals.
Let's look at some of the variety in recent episodes in terms of Setup/Culprits/Resolutions:
The Manipulated Great Detective (775-776)
Kogoro is asked to infiltrate a group of thieves. He discovers it was at the behest of one of one of it's own members, and is coerced into sniffing out a killer among the group.
Taiko Meijin's Match of Love (785-786)
No suspects, no murders. Yumi is kidnapped and Shukichi and Conan follow a trail of codes that lead them to her.
Three First Discoverers (792-793)
The mystery begins when the kids find a woman who hung herself. The case points to three likely suspects. The episode concludes with none of them being the culprit— she set up her suicide to frame them.
The Secret of the Missing Young Lady (795)
The Detective Boys witness a man putting what appears to be a woman's corpse into his car. After much investigating, Conan solves the case and takes down the culprit... except he got the entire case wrong and put an innocent man in the hospital.
3 is a necessary evil of the format and setting. I don't want every 24 minute standalone TV original episode to spend time justifying why they're allowed in a crime scene when the actual elements of the mystery barely fit into the time frame itself. I can understand someone not wanting to suspend their disbelief for this, but that's something that's established very early on.
6 brings with it a reminder that this is, at it's heart, a kids/family show. That's why the detective boys exist and why they have their own B role in every movie. These are few and far enough between not to irritate me, personally.
7 is a fair complaint. A lot of things need to be paid off in the main story. Though I think Shinichi getting closer to his old appearance and discovering the identity of the BO's boss are synonymous.
8 is, by far, one of Detective Conan's biggest, most blatant issues and my personal largest issue with it. Especially considering a lot of the characters, who might otherwise just be one dimensional to begin with, have had plenty of interesting backstories to elaborate on and build characters out of(Megure and Kogoro being the most frustrating).
Crash Station
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Her role in the manga is confusing as fuck and it concludes in a stupid way that pretty much invalidates her.
Some stupid shit ending spoilers:
Oogami continues killing "evil" and she just kind of stops giving a shit. Also she falls in love with him. It's as if to say she was wrong the whole time and some people do need to be killed despite the manga portraying her as in the right for nearly the entire damn story.
What the hell kind of message is this!?
Fuckin dumb series.
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