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Winter-Spring 2014 Anime |OT3| People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time
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Thank god i'm lazy or i'd do something about this.
My god, that's the most accurate dating sim I've ever seen. I'll preorder 5!
As for ToonamiGAF, as someone who posts and interacts with both, there really is more crossover than one thinks.
The situation between them. It's like the cousin that one loves to see but prolonged interaction between you and them will inevitably lead to disinterest and falling-outs.
curlyfriski
Banned
There are objective measures of quality in visual art. This is where someone posts gifs with the Accel World bathrooms.
There are objective measures of quality in writing. Not just in terms of grammar those technicalities, but even in the more vague aspects of creative fiction in terms of mise en scene, characterization, dramatic structure and so on.
There are objective measures of quality in directing and music as well.
Put all of these together and you can come up with ways to describe the relative success or failure of an anime. The question of whether or not you like something despite some flaw is another question entirely though. I'll admit that there are things that I like despite themselves. I apologize for the fanservice for Yamato 2199, for example, even though I can objectively say that the women wear skintight uniforms for the purposes of objectification and only objectification (and the related figure sales).
Aesthetics are not a science. There are no immutable laws of what are acceptable methods in art, only prevailing practices that will inevitably be challenged. If you abide by a 19th century definition of what a novel should be, Joyce is a bad writer, and if you work only within the rules of cinema established during Hollywood's Golden Age, Godard is a bad director.
Yeah, I was really expecting
Kal to just murder her anyway.
You guys are making me like it less, please stop.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I don't think there was any need for Superman's back story though. lol
It's like if Aragorn was like "Y'know what? Fuck it. I WILL marry Eowyn and I'll just become King of Rohan instead."
Chet Rippo
Member
It's scary.
Animegao only gets posted once in a while!
firehawk12
Subete no aware
There's a difference between being avant-garde and just bad though. I mean, there's a reason why people go to school to be artists, not to mention the amount of practice one needs to be good at any art.
It's almost as if he has no idea what to do with these characters now that he has 500 of them!
But those times are frightening!
Link to the chart.I have to say it's funny to talk about potential elitism when our thread doesn't even have writeups about any of the shows this season.
No new threads for the new season is the worst thing to happen to AnimeGAF in some time
Toonami-GAF is more or less at the mercy of the showrunners at Adult Swim so they get slim pickings for anime. Considering how desperate they are for the afterschool Toonami days of yore, it's no surprise that they have pretty low standards for what's acceptable as a "good show", e.g. Deadman Wonderland, Naruto, Bleach. The really good shows they have are all retreads of old stuff most people here watched ages ago like GITS, Cowboy Bebop and Fullmetal Alchemist. In contrast, just last year we had:
Space Battleship Yamato 2199
Uchouten Kazoku
Aku no Hana
From the New World
JoJo
Gundam Build Fighters
Silver Spoon
Girls und Panzer
Monogatari S2
Wolf Children
Little Witch Academia
Garden of Words
Not a spectacular year but more good shows than Toonami has had since its reinstatement in 2012. Is it any wonder that the people over there look at us as elitist snobs because we're not enjoying the same things they are and really, regularly shitting on popular stuff like Deadman Wonderland and SAO?
Space Battleship Yamato 2199
Uchouten Kazoku
Aku no Hana
From the New World
JoJo
Gundam Build Fighters
Silver Spoon
Girls und Panzer
Monogatari S2
Wolf Children
Little Witch Academia
Garden of Words
Not a spectacular year but more good shows than Toonami has had since its reinstatement in 2012. Is it any wonder that the people over there look at us as elitist snobs because we're not enjoying the same things they are and really, regularly shitting on popular stuff like Deadman Wonderland and SAO?
Right after the first podcast.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
If they need dubs, they could always watch shows on Funimation or The Anime Network though...
I'm still waiting for this to happen!
Like I always say: it's a bad sign if your show keeps introducing characters nonstop.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
You have podcast experience, you should host it. You could be our own black dragon.
BUT WHERE DO WHORES GO?
AHEM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=107358092&postcount=13786
Also, Ojamajo Doremi existed to sell stuff too.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Dedication Through Light
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An anime of adaptation of kagepro is the true dark horse for best anime this season, it will be up there with Haikyuu!! end of season, certainly for me.
A good comparison would be between an experienced PC gamer who use Steam, and someone who uses the PSN store on PS3 exclusively. There's a lot of good games on PSN, sure, a lot of classics, but it doesn't match the full range of games available to you on the PC and Steam, and that's just counting legal games. When you open up the floodgates of emulation and piracy it's not even a contest. It's reasonable the latter party would resent the former as they constantly flaunt their ill gotten gains.
I think you have no idea what ToonamiGAF is actually like. Yes, Deadman Wonderland is well liked, and I'm one of the people that liked it. It obviously didn't do all to well in Japan, but it was the gem of the relaunch lineup.
Nobody there considers Bleach and Naruto as "good shows", merely acceptable shows that draw viewers. And not a single person liked SAO.
Considering the budget available, we'll take whatever we can get.
zeroshiki is a people.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
You don't mention the CCGs though. Or whatever those cards actually are. lol
He only watches Ghibli films. lol
I actually did, and compared their in-show use to Minky Momo!
Can't have intelligent discussion when you don't read.
See that's the thing, they're not even considered that here. "Endless shounen" is nearly the lowest of the low, exceeded only by true disasters like Gundoh Musashi, Gerzey's Wing and YamiHat. And those still get more exposure because we're all masochists here.
An acceptable show, by AnimeGAF standards, would be Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet. A solid effort with nothing remarkable to differentiate itself from its peers, except its consistent quality makes it commendable.
That's not true. People liked SAO before it went to shit town. Though on balance, AnimeGAF did too.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yes, but how about how they're sold to the audience. It's sooooo blatant. More than the ipads of Dokidoki!
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Noo lets not split up animegaf
Which was addressed in the introduction. Come on, man.
PshycoNinja
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Noo lets not split up animegaf
naruto/bleach/one piecei in one thread, the rest in another.
Having many characters isn't a problem. GoT's problem is more that there a waelth of characters with their own viewpoints. So you can only reach a certain point for one character before you have to suddenly say "At the same time elsewhere, here is another 300 pages of very important plot that doesn't actually increase the overall narrative". Doing that over and over quickly fills up the pages!
It's okay, not everyone can appreciate shows like From the New World. I don't hold it against you, but it was one of the standout works of last year.
curlyfriski
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Of course, but definitions of what makes worthwhile art change, even outside the avant garde.There's a difference between being avant-garde and just bad though. I mean, there's a reason why people go to school to be artists, not to mention the amount of practice one needs to be good at any art.
It's almost as if he has no idea what to do with these characters now that he has 500 of them!
But those times are frightening!
Link to the chart.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yes, you mention it, but I think you can go into great detail about how hard it pushes the cards onto the girls. Especially the collectable nature of them, and how girls need to get all the cards in order to get super powerful like the characters on the screen. I mean, at least with wands, parents just need to buy one thing and hopefully distract them with it. I have to imagine these cards are sold in blind packs and that they are an endless source of addiction.
I think we can agree that if someone sings off key or is flat, that they are a bad singer, right? There isn't some form of experimental jazz where being off beat, off key, off tempo, and off anything else is considered high art?
See, now that's being elitest. And acceptable are my words, not indicative of ToonamiGAF as a whole.
And yeah, I should have clarified. By the end of SAO's run, you could not find a soul in the thread that liked it still.
MikeHattsu
Member
Visited the Fushimi Inari shrine yesterday:
And Uka was there:
And Uka was there:
Well... A cardboard cutout at least
PshycoNinja
Member
Man we had discussions on that show for like a good day and a half.
People really didn't like my 15-16 paragraph review on it.
Edit: Found it. Hahaha. Man I got berated there for a while after I posted that review.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It still amazes me how these real places capitalize on anime. The fact that the train station in HanaIro changed its name to fit the anime is my favourite thing ever.Visited the Fushimi Inari shrine yesterday:
And Uka was there:
Well... A cardboard cutout at least
PrecureGAF is dating a 40-year old doctor in NYC. She's fine!
Crash Station
Member
Animegaf liked SAO more than Toonamigaf did. They were pretty much shitting on it right from the beginning with very few defending it.
She was an accident!
Oh my, the money is going to be splendid...
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's BonesGAF that we need to worry about. He keeps sneaking out of rehab.
MikeHattsu
Member
curlyfriski
Banned
Ohohoho. You obviously aren't familiar with the fine work being produced in the field of sound art!
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Ah, go figure!
And is the K-On school still a closed school that exists only for K-On tourism now? lol
Jex
Member
I think the main reason that this works at all is because of the moderation on NeoGAF.The rules of NeoGAF were designed to combat hate, ignorance and laziness when it comes to discussing videogames. These rules created a certain level of discourse, and helped to make NeoGAF a stand-out gaming board that attracted the right kind of attention. Eventually an Off-Topic component grew, and the moderation tools kept developing and changing over time (e.g. with relation of say, Transgender people). Any set of rules designed to enforce order under such difficult and complex circumstances would obviously be good enough to deal with something like discussing anime.
I would imagine most people don't think of this thread as being 'heavily moderated', even though two mods read it, because you rarely see Dresden or Duckroll have to come in and nuke anyone. That's because, for the most part, NeoGAF attracts people who want to engage in a certain level of discourse and so you don't see a lot of truly "shitty posting". People are already in the mindset.
Of course, you do have the occasional shit head get through but that's why bans of Juniors are permanent.
MikeHattsu
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Yup.
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