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Winter-Spring 2014 Anime |OT3| People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time

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Dresden

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Everyone that posts in this, the manga thread, or the toonami thread has shit taste. If you post in two or more of these threads your taste is double the shit.
 
Madoka 11
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Thoughts during episode:

- Oh..... it's all
Homura's fault
.
- Well.... It would be nice if we got a happy ending wouldn't it?
- You know.... Logically what the cat says makes a lot of sense. But I am human and have a moral and emotional center/filter to balance me out. I love this kind of Logic vs Emotion thing happening right now. Actually quite fascinated with it.
- Two adults talking. That's unusual for this show. :p
- That's pretty heavy Homura. But you can't do it alone.
- I don't know why I laughed at the
abstract elephant stomping on one of those creatures
but I did.
- Holy crap! Homura isn't playing around.
- Oh snap!
Slap to the face! Don't know what it is about that but when characters start slapping each other
I always have the same reaction.
- Mom is laying down the law! Mom is cool.
- When
buildings are being thrown around
you know stuff is getting real.
- Oh Madoka! It's time for awesomeness to ensue!
- Yes the ED is back. So awesome.

Summary:

Well this episode was pretty great for setting up whatever the next (last) episode has in store. But like I said at one of my stream of consciousness points I am actually very fascinated with the Logic vs Emotion idea the show portrays. It actually reminded me of a test I took in collage which determined what type of personality a person possesses and one of the traits was if you were more logical or emotional. It's a psychology test. I don't remember what it was called. Anyways, what the cat says (as much as I hate to admit it), makes a lot of sense. At the same time the cat has on numerous occasions has said
it doesn't care about the human race
. So there's that.

Anyways, the show this episode was just setting up for what I assume is the balls to the wall finale.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Everyone that posts in this, the manga thread, or the toonami thread has shit taste. If you post in two or more of these threads your taste is double the shit.

What if you post in all 3.
 
Soul Eater Not! - 1

As someone who, at the very least, appreciates the world that Soul Eater created I found it interesting that it expanded on the whole process of finding out you're a weapon and going about life from that point. Yeah we had a bit of that with Soul and his family from the original series but it was different when the person wasn't coming from a highstrung family of musicians. Not a huge fan of the tweaking of some of the designs of the original cast - Black Star in particular seems way more buff - but I was surprised at how well Maka's design ended up growing on me, certainly looked better in motion than what some of the initial PVs for the show lead me to believe.

I ended up enjoying this one a lot more than I initially thought I would and the way it serves to fill in a lot of the fuzzier aspects of the world and the school is something i can absolutely get behind. Looking forward to the next episode for sure.

Hitsugi no Coffin Loli - 01
The hair "X" that the male protagonist is sporting is super annoying, even more so when he decides to go super saiyan. Despite that I can't deny that the special effects they're using for the magic are actually pretty damn neat looking. Didn't really save the episode for me though as the middle part dragged on and on with uninteresting banter between pretty much all of the characters they decided to go on to introduce from there. Sigh sigh.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Yes, you mention it, but I think you can go into great detail about how hard it pushes the cards onto the girls. Especially the collectable nature of them, and how girls need to get all the cards in order to get super powerful like the characters on the screen. I mean, at least with wands, parents just need to buy one thing and hopefully distract them with it. I have to imagine these cards are sold in blind packs and that they are an endless source of addiction.
Look, as much as Precure has crafted plastic peddling to a science, it is by no means new or noteworthy in its existence. Like I tried to edit in, Ojamajo Doremi also based whole seasons on marketing strategies, but what made that show so damn good was that the people behind it insisted on making things work regardless. You also mentioned MLP, and that show also tried to make something worthwhile on its own merits despite ultimately having to market toys to kids. I feel it's not as successful at this than Doremi, but it's still the same point. Even Sailor Moon, which is based on a manga with no original need to peddle, was influenced by a genre that pushed toys to boys, and was ruthlessly exploited for merchandising regardless.

The presence of this element isn't even worth talking about. It's only when it's egregious or when the show doesn't bother to try to be anything else that it deserves close scrutiny, and the whole point of my introduction was that Happiness Charge Precure was doing things to put itself above the "mere peddling" distinction.
 

Eusis

Member
I'm amused at just how much Game of Throne/Song of Ice and Fire discussion cropped up in here.

Anyways:
Toonami-GAF is more or less at the mercy of the showrunners at Adult Swim so they get slim pickings for anime. Considering how desperate they are for the afterschool Toonami days of yore, it's no surprise that they have pretty low standards for what's acceptable as a "good show", e.g. Deadman Wonderland, Naruto, Bleach. The really good shows they have are all retreads of old stuff most people here watched ages ago like GITS, Cowboy Bebop and Fullmetal Alchemist. In contrast, just last year we had:

Space Battleship Yamato 2199
Uchouten Kazoku
Aku no Hana
From the New World
JoJo
Gundam Build Fighters
Silver Spoon
Girls und Panzer
Monogatari S2
Wolf Children
Little Witch Academia
Garden of Words

Not a spectacular year but more good shows than Toonami has had since its reinstatement in 2012. Is it any wonder that the people over there look at us as elitist snobs because we're not enjoying the same things they are and really, regularly shitting on popular stuff like Deadman Wonderland and SAO?
Honestly to me it's kind of silly to stick just with Toonami/Adult Swim for anime nowadays. They were a great option for those that didn't mind (or actively wanted) dubs and didn't want to buy up tons of DVDs while still watching legitimately, but now with the likes of Crunchyroll, Neon Alley, Hulu, even Netflix it seems kind of pointless to stick just with them. But to each their own I guess, and maybe I'm missing something (not wanting to subscribe to those? Though outside of Netflix they seem to have free options typically.)
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
I'm amused at just how much Game of Throne/Song of Ice and Fire discussion cropped up in here.
Geimu offu Stronsu is very anime. It's the SAO of live action TV.

Anyways:
Honestly to me it's kind of silly to stick just with Toonami/Adult Swim for anime nowadays. They were a great option for those that didn't mind (or actively wanted) dubs and didn't want to buy up tons of DVDs while still watching legitimately, but now with the likes of Crunchyroll, Neon Alley, Hulu, even Netflix it seems kind of pointless to stick just with them. But to each their own I guess, and maybe I'm missing something (not wanting to subscribe to those? Though outside of Netflix they seem to have free options typically.)
If you are a dub-only guy, then your options are much more limited. You can never really keep up with Japan, for one.
 

Midonin

Member
On the subject of the merchandise shows - I've been in the toku fandom for so long that it's not even something on my radar anymore. Every show's trying to sell something, it's just a bit more toyetic with kids. And then every so often you get something like Gaim which pushes out more toys than Bandai knows what to do with, but still tells a super compelling story.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Honestly, if you want to have a serious discussion about a show/movie, create a thread in OT or dump your post in the already established OT(if it's currently airing).

Of course, chances are nobody will bother with your thread but that's life.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Look, as much as Precure has crafted plastic peddling to a science, it is by no means new or noteworthy in its existence. Like I tried to edit in, Ojamajo Doremi also based whole seasons on marketing strategies, but what made that show so damn good was that the people behind it insisted on making things work regardless. You also mentioned MLP, and that show also tried to make something worthwhile on its own merits despite ultimately having to market toys to kids. I feel it's not as successful at this than Doremi, but it's still the same point. Even Sailor Moon, which is based on a manga with no original need to peddle, was influenced by a genre that pushed toys to boys, and was ruthlessly exploited for merchandising regardless.

The presence of this element isn't even worth talking about. It's only when it's egregious or when the show doesn't bother to try to be anything else that it deserves close scrutiny, and the whole point of my introduction was that Happiness Charge Precure was doing things to put itself above the "mere peddling" distinction.

MLP and Sailor Moon and what I've seen of Doremi felt much more genuine about trying to tell good stories that happened to take place in a toy universe. Sort of like how the Lego movie doesn't explicitly mention the Lego movie toys even if that's probably a huge part of the business.

But maybe it's my distaste of CCGs and preying on the addictive nature of collecting more than anything else. It's really off putting. Even more than Pokemon, which was also an anime that literally told people to "catch them all".
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Even more than Pokemon, which was also an anime that literally told people to "catch them all".

Not really, going by the anime you're supposed to release them all.

The anime was actually working against the base product.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
MLP and Sailor Moon and what I've seen of Doremi felt much more genuine about trying to tell good stories that happened to take place in a toy universe. Sort of like how the Lego movie doesn't explicitly mention the Lego movie toys even if that's probably a huge part of the business.
Which is my whole point! That it has to sell something to pay the bills is easily forgiven if it can provide quality entertainment otherwise. It doesn't always have to get in the way.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Which is my whole point! That it has to sell something to pay the bills is easily forgiven if it can provide quality entertainment otherwise. It doesn't always have to get in the way.

That's on you, then.
Come on, you're telling me you don't see a difference between SM/MLP and the Precures in terms of how hard they push the merch? Is it really just on me?

Not really, going by the anime you're supposed to release them all.

The anime was actually working against the base product.
Ash was fighting the system all along??

The original school that was there moved to a new building, and were going to demolish the old one until K-ON! came along and made it an Otaku tourist spot.
Yeah, I saw that on another blog. I'm just surprised that it's still there, given that K-On is pretty much all but done at this point.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Of course, it is interesting how Precure makes a point to have merchandise prominently displayed and used in such a way where it's clear how kids can do so themselves.

Come on, you're telling me you don't see a difference between SM/MLP and the Precures in terms of how hard they push the merch? Is it really just on me?
MLP is much worse than SM, if we're making relative comparisons. What I'm doing is arguing relevance.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Wait, the K-ON! school is a place? Does it have the marble turtles all around?
Yeah, it does. A lot of the small details in the anime are taken from the real school.
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http://punynari.wordpress.com/2010/09/25/k-on-school-anime-pilgrimage-part-1/

Of course, it is interesting how Precure makes a point to have merchandise prominently displayed and used in such a way where it's clear how kids can do so themselves.
I guess I could just scrub through all that.
 
I'm amused at just how much Game of Throne/Song of Ice and Fire discussion cropped up in here.

GoT is practically already an anime. It already has teenage heroes, CGI dragons, magic, incest, people coming back to life, sword fighting, an ancient order tasked with the defence of the world against an ancient evil, etc. It just needs know, to be animated. A minor detail in the rand scheme of things.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
I guess I could just scrub through all that.
I'd imagine I'm far more familiar than you with how merchandizing works overall in Precure, which is why the mere existence of collectible cards doesn't strike me as particularly disturbing when I know how vigorously it pushes other things you might not be as personally adverse to.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
#chemtrails #believe

GoT is practically already an anime. It already has teenage heroes, CGI dragons, magic, incest, people coming back to life, sword fighting, an ancient order tasked with the defence of the world against an ancient evil, etc. It just needs know, to be animated. A minor detail in the rand scheme of things.
Tyrian is Kirito.

I'd imagine I'm far more familiar than you with how merchandizing works overall in Precure, which is why the mere existence of collectible cards doesn't strike me as particularly disturbing when I know how vigorously it pushes other things you might not be as personally adverse to.
I will say, every iteration of the show I watched after I watched Smile just felt really bad. It's just that CCGs are extra terrible.
 
Yeah, I saw that on another blog. I'm just surprised that it's still there, given that K-On is pretty much all but done at this point.
They did just release the Box set of the first season as a 5th anniversary. Let the milking commence.
Wait, the K-ON! school is a place? Does it have the marble turtles all around?

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Though the real school was an Elementary School, not a High School *insert K-ON! is for pedophiles comment here
 

jman2050

Member
I'm not an agitator in favour of a separate thread or anything, but your arguments here don't make much sense.

The people who'd decide such rules would obviously be the moderation team, and they'd set up rules regarding post quality. What said rules might be are open for debate, I posted an example of a list earlier from a very popular and important TV Forum. The idea of "What constitutes good posting" already exists and is part of NeoGAF, so it's not a particularly wild or impossible to enforce idea.

This thread you're talking about already exists. It's called the current season anime OT thread.
 

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