Hm, I'm going to try that. Crashes have been getting more frequent as of late...
Thanks!
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Witcher 3 PC Performance Thread
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Hm, I'm going to try that. Crashes have been getting more frequent as of late...
Thanks!
Link? Also do you need Windows 10?
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=399564
or
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=399538
Steps are in the links, they're windows 10 drivers but modded to work on 7/8.1, 64bit only.
or
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=399538
Steps are in the links, they're windows 10 drivers but modded to work on 7/8.1, 64bit only.
TheFNEffecT
Member
Nope, I just tried everything on Ultra + Hairworks on everyone and no AA with my 295x2 and it was running at about 45-50 fps at 2560x1440. Definitely playable, but I need my 120fps goodness.
RickyRozay
Member
I think with the new drives I've gotten an increase of about 5-8 fps with my 970, don't remember my fps sitting around 70-90 as often as they do now or if at all. I was mostly around the 65-80fps range with the previews 2 drivers.
It seems that the game changes it's lighting when in conversations, a guy at CDPR forums made a very interesting comparison.
You can test this transition by entering a conversation and then recording a video with fraps. Then play the video frame by frame (ctrl + arrow right in media player classic) because the change happens really quickly.
OMG I knew something was wrong ! This needs to be fixed ASAP !
BrassDragon
Member
I actually have a 780M and The Witcher 3 ran absolutely terrible (= 10-20 FPS drops at seemingly random intervals.) The first time I noticed it was during the cutscene of
Ciri
The new drivers do seem like a big improvement for consistency - there are still drops but there only 5-10 frames and it doesn't stutter or desync the cut scene. Combat is consistently smooth so far (the boss fight with the
griffin
Having said that, don't expect miracles just solid performance - you still need to compromise on a laptop. Using the GeForce Exerpeince optimum as a baseline, I ended up turning resolution to 1600x900 capped at 30 FPS in exchange for High textures and SSAO. The frame drops haven't gone below 15 and it feels fairly smooth considering it's a beast of a game on a mobile platform.
So yay, Nvidia for fixing this but I'm still wondering what the hell they were doing on release.
notoccupanther
Member
Got about 4-5 fps extra and unbelievably, an extra one or two switching to full screen mode....280x here...
X-post from the OT2 (because I think you guys in here are more likely to know what I am talking about).
Related to the above screenshots of the global illumination on/off.
Does anyone else get the problem whereby in a city, eg. Novigrad, when it rains/storms and the black clouds cover the sky, it is basically TOO dark to actually properly see anything. It gets darker than it is during the middle of the night FFS.
It's kind of like the HDR goes a bit over the top and darkens the image too much.
I normally end up meditating on the spot to wait for the sun to come back out!
Is this on purpose or is something screwed with my contrast/brightness settings...
EDIT: playing on PC with mix of high/ultra.
Related to the above screenshots of the global illumination on/off.
Does anyone else get the problem whereby in a city, eg. Novigrad, when it rains/storms and the black clouds cover the sky, it is basically TOO dark to actually properly see anything. It gets darker than it is during the middle of the night FFS.
It's kind of like the HDR goes a bit over the top and darkens the image too much.
I normally end up meditating on the spot to wait for the sun to come back out!
Is this on purpose or is something screwed with my contrast/brightness settings...
EDIT: playing on PC with mix of high/ultra.
CarbonFire
Member
God I hope someone hacks in a way to enable global illumination all the time. I just started my second run, this time on death march. I will gladly drop it down to 30 fps if I can get that sweet, sweet global illumination we saw early on. Brownie points for removing some of the LOD fog. Those shots above with GI on look way better.
GI is when light bounces off a surface and affects the colour tone right? Like if I'm standing next to a blue wall in direct light you can see some blue hues on my skin?
Can't see any of that in the shots either
ISee
Member
Apparently not. *sigh*
Guess I'm staying on 350
Oh well, my 980 will be OK.
. Yeah me too.Thanks for the post. I havent got far in Witcher 3 yet, literally still at the tutorial area I think, so I've just been judging performance in that area, which probably isnt the best.
Surprised to hear you turned to 900p, not really keen on doing that. I also thought having high/ultra textures wouldnt really impact performance? At least if the VRAM was high enough, and I would think around 4GB is?
In the tut area I've had it on 1080p (Max res on screen), high or ultra textures and I believe medium for everything else, and hairworks off and performance has seemed fine in that area so far, need to try getting to the open world area to fully test it I suppose.
Not just color tone, but yes, GI is all about indirect lighting. Funny how people are throwing it around without knowing what it means, especially when CDPR even admitted they will have no GI way back in 2013.
I can see a different lighting condition but it's totally the opposite of what is being suggested.
In "global illumination off" labeled screenshots, there are a lot more "lighting" info. That makes sense, as during focalised conversations with controlled camera angles, surroundings areas can have more simple lighting system.
Most important differences are: how far the sun illumination is applied and the existence of a simulated GI that helps illuminate shadowed areas.
Dictator93
Member
The game does have some form of GI (otherwise shadows would be black). It is just rather lacking.
For example, check out the green being cast onto everything here (geralts hair, the doe...):
Also, any cubemaps techncially count as cheapo specular GI.
I see mainly a tonemapping difference.
The Dear Leader
Banned
1.05 is still on track for PC today?
hermeslyre
Neo Member
Last I heard the XP hotfix was due out today, but they were looking into just adding it into 1.05 since it was so close to release, targeting Tuesday or Wednesday for that.
Source
An update, I disabled TDR (Timeout Detection & Recovery) through the program earlier today. No issues till just a couple minutes ago, after quitting the game and launching chrome. Within a minute Chrome locked up and completely froze the system. Force restart. Hasn't happened like that before today.
I'm assuming the driver hit a snag after launching Chrome, as it is like to do with these new driver versions, and since I disabled TDR through that application, It didn't recover and restart, and just completely crashed. So the above might not be a fix for these Chrome display driver crashes after all.
I'll keep TDR disabled for another go, another couple days, but if Chrome locks the system up again I'll just consider it a non-solution and get rid of it.
The Dear Leader
Banned
Thanks I must have missed that.
hermeslyre
Neo Member
It's kinda disappointing if they hold off, I wish they'd just release the XP hotfix today if it's ready.
If it's 100% ready. If they're gonna spend the next day or two continuing to test it, making sure it doesn't unintentionally fuck something else up, then maybe it's for the best.
Great for Kepler GPUs, No difference I noticed on my 970, seems to still have the display driver crash/Chrome issues, at least on my end.
Looks mostly like a change in contrast, saturation, and color warmth. I'm not seeing any lighting changes.It seems that the game changes it's lighting when in conversations, a guy at CDPR forums made a very interesting comparison.
You can test this transition by entering a conversation and then recording a video with fraps. Then play the video frame by frame (ctrl + arrow right in media player classic) because the change happens really quickly.
hermeslyre
Neo Member
I read that earlier today, but I didn't do it at that point because I wanted to test the TDR manipulator program and see if I still got crashes. Still seem to, so soon I'll either disable HW acc or rollback to 350.12, the GTAV drivers, which have never given me a problem.
It's given me under 5 fps gain in some areas on my 780 Ti, other than that I don't see any big difference in what I was getting before especially considering my card was getting beaten by a 290 according to benchmarks. Still gets beaten by a 290x and 970 by a significant margin now. Pretty underwhelming, but it's gotten me closer to 4k 30fps at least.
I need to somehow gain another 5 fps... If anyone has any advice aside from HairWorks (already off), foliage distance (already on high), shadows (already on medium) and AA (already off), that would be great... I don't really wanna turn down the AO from HBAO+ because... Well... Good AO is important to me. I need a miracle setting that does nothing visually but gives me all the frames in the world. Make it happen... Someone.
Krusenstern
Banned
Once I have my new card I'm going to try and create a sweetfx profile to mimic that cutscene lighting. It looks so much better than the regular shot in my opinion. Non-cutscene screen looks so dull and oversaturated compared to the supposed "GI" screen.
Grechy34
Member
CPU? You should easily be getting high on that card.
Cannon Goose
Member
I've started using this one and I like it quite a bit! This game doesn't have as much of a "piss filter" as Resident Evil 5 does, but I think it looks better with out it. I like that this reduces that filter without changing the saturation too much.
Sax Russel
Banned
Higher saturation/contrast = BETTER GRAFIX, duh. That's the whole reason SweetFX/Reshade exist, pretty much.
Due to the heavy pop-in I had to roll back from 1.04 to 1.03, but I still have character pop-in, in populated areas. As in, you see roughly 3 or 4 characters standing, and when you're next to them suddenly there's another two appearing out of thin air.
After reading on Reddit it looks like this is hardcoded, although I'm not sure.
After reading on Reddit it looks like this is hardcoded, although I'm not sure.
s_mirage
Member
A note of caution. Disabling TDR is fine when TDR is erroneously deciding that the driver has crashed. However, if the driver/GPU actually has crashed it can cause problems requiring a reboot (e.g. the game could still freeze, but instead of crashing to desktop it can produce a scenario where the frozen screen remains in focus and is impossible to escape from without powering down).
I still maintain that these driver crashes are being caused either by unstable overclocks or (more likely) by background software (EVGA Precision, MSI Afterburner, etc). Precision X running in the background definitely causes them in some games on my system. If it's purely a driver problem it seems rather odd that only some people are getting them, while others with nearly identical hardware and software are not.
chromatic9
Member
What fps do you get now? Perhaps you can pick some well known spots although I'm sure some sites will be testing the kepler stuff with the new driver.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
My system has been stable on the GTA V drivers.
With the Witcher 3 drivers it crashes so often that it often crashes on start up and I have to use a system recovery point to be able to access my PC. And this is without any overclock running. Using Firefox, not Chrome.
I really wish I knew what was causing it.
s_mirage
Member
Strange. Hopefully if people report it to Nvidia it'll get looked into.
Mine is all stock, I only have MSI Afterburner running to show my FPS and temps.
I guess I could try disabling MSI Afterburner, but then I can't lock my FPS to 50...
s_mirage
Member
If you're getting a lot of crashes you could just try disabling Afterburner for a bit just to see if the problems go away. You could use Nvidia Inspector to set the frame limit feature of the drivers to lock to 50, but I haven't had great results with that in this game (not smooth). To be honest though, RTSS didn't smooth things out either.
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
Tried new drivers on my lunch break (using gtx765m laptop)
Testing 2 areas (centre of novigrad and bog fighting foglets) I would say I'm getting 2-3 FPS better. Basically enough to up from 720p to 768p
At its worst (fighting foglets in the bog) it fluctuates between 25-28 fps. Rest of bog is between 28-35.
Novigrad was mostly 30+ bar the odd hitch to 28/29 then back up again.
So for most the game its 30 plus at 768p with high textures (but mipmapbias set to 0) high water all post processing effects on except blur and CA. Ambient occulsion set to SSAO and then some custom tweaks to shadows, foliage and grass.
I was hoping for 768p 40+ fps before release but that was assuming better performance on consoles. So I'm not far of that and when out in the open fields it is often 40+ plus so I can now stop worrying and tweaking and get back to playing. If patches improve more then yay but I'll just take the extra fps instead of tweaking more.
Tons of jank still but its to be expected in an open world game (especially one this huge) and it seems that jank effects people of all settings (NPCs appearing out of no where, stealth beard tech etc etc).
My laptops still got life in it yet at least. Wonder if a game as demanding as this is due out withing the next 18 months (when I plan to upgrade).
Testing 2 areas (centre of novigrad and bog fighting foglets) I would say I'm getting 2-3 FPS better. Basically enough to up from 720p to 768p
At its worst (fighting foglets in the bog) it fluctuates between 25-28 fps. Rest of bog is between 28-35.
Novigrad was mostly 30+ bar the odd hitch to 28/29 then back up again.
So for most the game its 30 plus at 768p with high textures (but mipmapbias set to 0) high water all post processing effects on except blur and CA. Ambient occulsion set to SSAO and then some custom tweaks to shadows, foliage and grass.
I was hoping for 768p 40+ fps before release but that was assuming better performance on consoles. So I'm not far of that and when out in the open fields it is often 40+ plus so I can now stop worrying and tweaking and get back to playing. If patches improve more then yay but I'll just take the extra fps instead of tweaking more.
Tons of jank still but its to be expected in an open world game (especially one this huge) and it seems that jank effects people of all settings (NPCs appearing out of no where, stealth beard tech etc etc).
My laptops still got life in it yet at least. Wonder if a game as demanding as this is due out withing the next 18 months (when I plan to upgrade).
ISee
Member
You can even get locked 60 fps on a 970. everything on ultra but shadow and foliage distance (both high). Without hairworks of course.
If you can stand 1080p. It was way to pixilated and shimmery for me. I went dsr and it's very clean now, but of course it's locked 30 not 60.
Hey guys.
I have noticed whilst wandering around Novigrad, that there seems to be a LOT of shadows that only draw in when I get really close to buildings etc. Eg. under window ledges, around doors, behind the ivy/foliage that grows on walls etc.
My shadows are set to high, although I tried setting to ultra and noticed the same issue at the exact same distance.
Is there an .ini tweak that can extend the distance for when these shadows are drawn in? Of all the graphical issues, I find this the most jarring at the moment.
EDIT - also, the light that *should* come through windows whilst walking around interiors is completely fucked it seems. I just did a test in a random Novigrad interior, meditating and checking at different times of the day, the light that you can see flooding through the windows is only visible as you walk away from it/at certain distances, as soon as you focus directly on it, or attempt to approach it, it disappears and the room is plunged into darkness again.
EDIT 2 - took a series of images to help indicate what I mean regarding the interior windows/sunlight, it's almost like there is a large square area around Geralt where no sunlight can render:
I have noticed whilst wandering around Novigrad, that there seems to be a LOT of shadows that only draw in when I get really close to buildings etc. Eg. under window ledges, around doors, behind the ivy/foliage that grows on walls etc.
My shadows are set to high, although I tried setting to ultra and noticed the same issue at the exact same distance.
Is there an .ini tweak that can extend the distance for when these shadows are drawn in? Of all the graphical issues, I find this the most jarring at the moment.
EDIT - also, the light that *should* come through windows whilst walking around interiors is completely fucked it seems. I just did a test in a random Novigrad interior, meditating and checking at different times of the day, the light that you can see flooding through the windows is only visible as you walk away from it/at certain distances, as soon as you focus directly on it, or attempt to approach it, it disappears and the room is plunged into darkness again.
EDIT 2 - took a series of images to help indicate what I mean regarding the interior windows/sunlight, it's almost like there is a large square area around Geralt where no sunlight can render:
I still don't know why some people are suggesting the NPC pop-in is worse after 1.03. I noticed it from launch. Not only that, but I even noticed it on the first IGN PC stream before launch; after the dev controlling the game arrived in a small village, you could see the NPCs suddenly appear, one by one only a few feet from Geralt.
From what I can tell, the NPCs load via a spawn timer when a certain distance is triggered by the player (probably with less priority than the surrounding environment, for whatever reason), and sometimes, if you arrive too quickly in certain areas (like with your horse at full gallop), this can happen. Load up a save in the identical area, and I bet you won't have as much pop-in, due to the NPCs being able to "catch-up" during the load.
Sadly, post-patch paranoia struck, and people not paying attention the first time claimed the pop-in was worse. The truth is, this being an open world game with nearly infinite variables, sometimes the NPC pop-in is really noticeable and sometimes it isn't.
The best we can probably hope for is a decrease in the spawn time in a future patch.