With the Rumours of MS going third party what platform are you going to be playing there games on from now on?

Heisenberg007 said:
If they make good games (like Ori), sure, I'll play - as I always have.

If they make sub-par and outdated games, no.

Platforms never prevented me before; they won't prevent me now.
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splattered said:
Oh yeah? Then what were all the regulators worried about when MS was trying to buy Activision?
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Activision publishing on Xbox and PC with Call of Duty for sure staying multiplat was enough to scare these people to the bone all day every day for a full year. A whole console dropping out is just fine though. Really shows you the integrity of some of these arguments. It shows you that literally all that negative hand wringing for a full year was an exaggerated lie. No other way to say it honestly.
 
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It's really telling how much this rumor picked up based on practically nothing substantial. And how we went from two rumored games to the whole of Xbox going third party in a matter of days.

I really don't see it happening aside from old live service games or Switch ports but time will tell. If it happens I'm going full PC I guess?
 
If they are garbage like the recent ones, then absolutely not.

And this is from someone who lost almost every bit of hope on Fable. No way people would waste money on turds like Redfall.
 
I thought they were gearing up for a new Console in 2026/28??

I don't expect them to go the way of SEGA anytime soon.
 
splattered said:
Oh yeah? Then what were all the regulators worried about when MS was trying to buy Activision?
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They were concerned about the impact it would have on other businesses in the industry and the impact it would have on competition (both now and in the future) .

It's pretty much this point in my previous post above:

GHG said:
Monopolies and excessive pricing can only exist in instances where incumbents make it impossible for new entrants to enter the market. That isn't the case in the console industry, and it isn't the case in the discrete GPU market.
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What you need to ask yourself is in what scenarios do monopolies and excessive pricing exist, how did they come about and how are they maintained.

The regulators (should) work to prevent them from ever coming about, it's alot easier to deal with the situation at that stage than it is later down the line.
 
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Probably not for the same reason I don't have an XBox, they just don't have any exclusives I'm interested in.

I'd consider picking up Hi-Fi Rush and Pentiment for $19.99 or less maybe. Avowed and Fable 3 are the two upcoming games they have that interest me the most, but after Starfield, I'll wait to see how they turn out. I doubt XBox would be releasing these games to third party for many years anyway.
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Imagine the pricing on PS consoles IF Xbox was to stop making consoles.

People don't want this future
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So sony would destoy the last benefit over pc because they have less console competition. I mean we still want Microsoft in the game but without buying the whole industry tho. You don't want that future either with Microsoft controlling most of the content.
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Imagine the pricing on PS consoles IF Xbox was to stop making consoles.

People don't want this future
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If all these rumours are to be believed then that will be a scenario to talk about come PS6 reveal when they can do what they want with their only competition being whatever niche hardware Nintendo come out with a few years earlier. They won't even have to go too hard with the specs and They will have free reign, to say "$600' for the premium console experience (sly jab at Nintendo) …. Check out the new TLOU and horizon remasters on PS6 here's another marvel game…. Get a second job it's worth it"
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Think prices would go down from NVidia if AMD left the GPU market?

What would they charge for the 5090 if there were no other options for next gen cards?
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I agree. Console industry needs competition and it is really hard for me to imagine that another company would emerge out of the void that Microsoft would leave upon exiting the market. Without competition, Sony has nothing to keep them in check and I think the days of games subsidizing consoles will be over. Also, a Sony without competition is going to gain the scrutiny of regulators with any suspect action they take. None of this is good for gamers, imo.
 
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Fabieter said:
So sony would destoy the last benefit over pc because they have less console competition. I mean we still want Microsoft in the game but without buying the whole industry tho. You don't want that future either with Microsoft controlling most of the content.
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They don't have to go as high as a PC. Fact of the matter is most console gamers will never be PC gamers. But they don't have to stick to sub $499 if nobody is giving them a reason too.
 
Topher said:
I agree. Console industry needs competition and it is really hard for me to imagine another company would emerge out of the void that Microsoft would leave upon exiting the market. Without competition, Sony has nothing to keep them in check and I think the days of games subsidizing consoles will be over. Also, a Sony without competition is going to gain the scrutiny of regulators with any suspect action they take. None of this is good for gamers, imo.
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Nintendo? Hello? Are we all 15 years old and don't remember when ms wasn't in consoles? Is there a rule somewhere that there must be 3?
 
Topher said:
I agree. Console industry needs competition and it is really hard for me to imagine another company would emerge out of the void that Microsoft would leave upon exiting the market. Without competition, Sony has nothing to keep them in check and I think the days of games subsidizing consoles will be over. Also, a Sony without competition is going to gain the scrutiny of regulators with any suspect action they take. None of this is good for gamers, imo.
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Ok let's run this scenario.

Xbox stop making consoles and Sony price the PS6 at $800.

What do you project the response from consumers would be?
 
OmegaSupreme said:
Nintendo? Hello? Are we all 15 years old and don't remember when ms wasn't in consoles? Is there a rule somewhere that there must be 3?
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Nintendo isn't in direct competition with Sony like Microsoft is. Prior to MS, there was Sega. You remember Sega, right? Ain't no rule about anything. Didn't say there was.
 
GHG said:
Ok let's run this scenario.

Xbox stop making consoles and Sony price the PS6 at $800.

What do you project the response from consumers would be?
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Very negative....and yet people would buy it. What is their alternative if they want to play those games on console?
 
That didn't take long....

I hope they don't go third party, we need them for better competition. They should focus on great games instead of services. I believe they still have time.
 
OverHeat said:
Bending over and asking for second?
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So you're thinking all of the following will happen:
  • Consumers will not protest and pre-orders/interest will not suffer.
  • Consumers will ignore Nintendo consoles as an alternative.
  • They will ignore PC as an alternative despite the price encroaching that market.
  • They will ignore PC handheld like the Steam Deck (or the Deck 2 as it will likely be at that time), despite them likely being cheaper even with a dock.
That's a lot of issues they will need to overcome in order to continue being as successful as they have been in recent years.

Remember - they cannot fund their 1st party games if the userbase is not there and is not buying 3rd party games and/or subscribing to services available on the platform.

Apple or someone else will be waiting in the wings. If anything higher pricing makes it more likely that someone like Apple will get involved.

Topher said:
Very negative....and yet people would buy it. What is their alternative if they want to play those games on console?
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See above.

If there's anything people should have learnt from Xbox deciding to make everything available on PC day one (and the impact that's had on their console proposition), it's that the alternatives are real and consumers will opt in to them where they deem appropriate.
 
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Always makes me laugh when people think other gigacorps will just let Sony have a nice time alone at the top when that has literally never been the case at any point in time since the NES came out.
 
Topher said:
Nintendo isn't in direct competition with Sony like Microsoft is. Prior to MS, there was Sega. You remember Sega, right? Ain't no rule about anything. Didn't say there was.
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Ms counts Nintendo. They even count mobile depending on the day. Oddly enough sega was good competition for exactly one generation. Just like Xbox.
 
GHG said:
So you're thinking all of the following will happen:
  • Consumers will not protest and pre-orders/interest will not suffer.
  • Consumers will ignore Nintendo consoles as an alternative.
  • They will ignore PC as an alternative despite the price encroaching that market.
  • They will ignore PC handheld like the Steam Deck (or the Deck 2 as it will likely be at that time), despite them likely being cheaper even with a dock.
That's a lot of issues they will need to overcome in order to continue being as successful as they have been in recent years.

Remember - they cannot fund their 1st party games if the userbase is not there and is not buying 3rd party games and/or subscribing to services available on the platform.

Apple or someone else will be waiting in the wings. If anything higher pricing makes it more likely that someone like Apple will get involved.



See above.

If there's anything people should have learnt from Xbox deciding to make everything available on PC day one (and the impact that's had on their console proposition), it's that the alternatives are real and consumers will opt in to them where they deem appropriate.
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I just disagree and its ok, we can do that ;)
 
PC for single player. PC for multiplayer. PC for playstation games. PC for xbox games. PC for Switch games. PC for VR games. Not sure what platform I will choose to play PC only games on though.
But I dont think there are any actual rumors of xbox going third party.
 
Xbox. I own all three ecosystems and a steam deck. Xbox is getting my most use currently. Best multiplayer ecosystem. I play story driven games on my PS5. Everything else on steam deck and switch because i love handheld gaming.
 
Topher said:
Nintendo isn't in direct competition with Sony like Microsoft is. Prior to MS, there was Sega. You remember Sega, right? Ain't no rule about anything. Didn't say there was.
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so people will turn into pc or alternative

you guys are wild with this competition take
 
Astray said:
Always makes me laugh when people think other gigacorps will just let Sony have a nice time alone at the top when that has literally never been the case at any point in time since the NES came out.
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Yeah, people forgot already, when Sony tried that shit during the beginning of the PS3 gen. It almost killed the Playstation brand. The gaming public and press, turned on them immediately.
 
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GHG said:
So you're thinking all of the following will happen:
  • Consumers will not protest and pre-orders/interest will not suffer.
  • Consumers will ignore Nintendo consoles as an alternative.
  • They will ignore PC as an alternative despite the price becoming such that it's a viable alternative.
  • They will ignore PC handheld like the Steam Deck (or the Deck 2 as it will likely be at that time), despite them likely being cheaper even with a dock.
That's a lot of issues they will need to overcome in order to continue being as successful as they have been in recent years.



See above.

If there's anything people should have learnt from Xbox deciding to make everything available on PC day one (and the impact that's had on their console proposition), it's that the alternatives are real and consumers will opt in to them where they deem appropriate.
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I don't think Sony would jack up prices as high as $800. Let's say MS dropped consoles prior to this gen. Do you think PS5 would have released at $600 or even slightly higher? I certainly do. That is the effect of no competition. It doesn't necessarily mean a massive price hike. But you take any industry that has few competitors as the console industry does and take away one, it will have an impact and typically that is not good for consumers.

OmegaSupreme said:
Ms counts Nintendo. They even count mobile depending on the day. Oddly enough sega was good competition for exactly one generation. Just like Xbox.
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Microsoft counts Nintendo when it is convenient.

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
People don't buy a Switch to mainly play blockbuster AAA games
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In 2024? No. But that certainly wasn't always the case. There's no reason that couldn't change if Nintendo sees money in competing again in that way. MS leaving the console space would by far and away have the least amount of impact compared to Sony and Nintendo leaving.
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
I just disagree and its ok, we can do that ;)
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That's cool.

But if you're going to share the stance that you did it would be nice if you could substantiate your thinking.

Based on everything I know it makes no sense and they would only be harming their market position if they were to do such a thing.

Topher said:
Do you think PS5 would have released at $600 or even slightly higher?
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But that's the thing we've already had that scenario. If anything, I was being conservative with quoting $800.

In 2006 the PS3 cost $600. Adjusted for inflation, that's ~$950 in today's money.

How did that play out for them?
 
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