Wkd Box Office 04•01-03•16 - BvS has 'worse legs than Barbara Gordon' -- Sibersk Esto

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4.1 mil on Tuesday is a 28.13% increase of the 3.2 million on Monday.

Thanks to the strong passionate #SupportDCFilms movement this increase should continue. With this trajectory we are looking at:

Wed: $5.25 mil
Thurs: $6.73 mil
Fri: $8.62 mil
Sat: $11.05 mil
Sun: $14.16 mil
Mon: $18.14 mil
Tues: $23.24 mil

Now that is momentum.

I actually laughed on this one. Got confused for a second.

What films do have a chance to make $1B this and next year?

Your list is real generous.

$1 Billion: CA: CW, Pirates 5, Star Wars Ep VIII, Despicable Me 3

$900/800 Million: Finding Dory, Rogue One, Zootopia, Fast 8, Justice League, GOTG 2, Spider-Man, Fantastic Beasts.

$700 Million and under: Suicide Squad, XMen Apocalypse, Independence Day, Planet of the Apes 3

Dory and Rogue could skew higher. I think Fast 8 will do worse than Furious 7 without the Walker tribute to power it through. Fuzzy on Fantastic Beasts.
 
I actually laughed on this one. Got confused for a second.



Your list is real generous.

$1 Billion: CA: CW, Pirates 5, Star Wars Ep VIII, Despicable Me 3

$900/800 Million: Finding Dory, Rogue One, Zootopia, Fast 8, Justice League, GOTG 2, Spider-Man

$700 Million and under: Suicide Squad, XMen Apocalypse, Independence Day, Planet of the Apes 3

Dory and Rogue could skew higher. I think Fast 8 will do worse than Furious 7 without the Walker tribute to power it through.

If Finding Dory is good, it hits a billion. Zootopia is probably about to do it based entirely on being a good movie and being promoted by Disney. A good Dory has that plus brand recognition.

If Fast 8 is entertaining, it hits a billion. Other than that, I think you're right.
 
I've been thinking that too. Either it cashes in on the nostalgia and is huge or it completely fizzles and bombs. I can't see it doing just ok.

Pretty much exactly this, yeah. Middle-of-the-road really doesn't seem in the cards.

For what it's worth, I think the absolute worst thing that could happen to the movie is it winds up boring. It's could be terrible, but as long as it's not boring, it'll probably make bank. Everyone knows ID4 is a stupid movie, which is kind of part of the charm. It was Michael Bay before Michael Bay was huge. So I think everyone expects something dumb and sorta-kinda bad, but that's not really gonna hurt it.
 
What films do have a chance to make $1B this and next year?

2016
CA: CW, Finding Dory, Rogue One, Fantastic Beasts, Suicide Squad, Independence Day, Zootopia, XMen Apocalypse

2017
Fast 8, GOTG2, Pirates 5, Despicable Me 3, Spider Man, Planet of the Apes 3, Justice League I, Star Wars VIII

Am I being too generous? Not saying they will all make it, but that they have a realistic chance

Where Transformers at?

Of your list:

2016
CA: CW, Finding Dory, Rogue One, Fantastic Beasts, Zootopia,

2017
Fast 8, GOTG2, Pirates 5, Despicable Me 3, Star Wars VIII
 
What's the Suicide Squad budget? Google says 250mil, but the same sources also say that BvS was 410mil, so that seems wrong unless it's marketing inclusive.
 
Finding Dory is so making a billion. Finding Nemo almost hit it back in 2003.

Toy Story 3 squeaked over the line and I consider that to be a stronger brand. I'm not saying there's no way it won't hit a billion, but I feel comfortable putting it in $950 million unless its amazing.

Oh, I forgot Jungle Book, which is an easy $800 million plus and reviews are pointing to a potential billion dollar film. Transformers 5 will make another billion on the back of China.
 
I feel that anyone who is confident that China will carry Transformers 5 to 1B without knowing anything about the cast, premise, etc, should also be confident that China will carry Fast 8 to 1B.
 
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I feel that anyone who is confident that China will carry Transformers 5 to 1B without knowing anything about the cast, premise, etc, should also be confident that China will carry Fast 8 to 1B.

I think both cases are an afterthought to be honest.
 
What's the Suicide Squad budget? Google says 250mil, but the same sources also say that BvS was 410mil, so that seems wrong unless it's marketing inclusive.

$250M is the production budget for BvS; once P&A expenses are accounted for, that figure grows to $410M

In regards to Suicide Squad, a few sources mention $250M (production), but no official word from WB yet (or Hollywood publications - Deadline, Variety or Hollywoodreporter)
 
I feel that anyone who is confident that China will carry Transformers 5 to 1B without knowing anything about the cast, premise, etc, should also be confident that China will carry Fast 8 to 1B.

I mean, Transformers 5 will have Mark Wahlberg, Michael Bay, and giant CG robots, the same elements that brought Age of Extinction to its money.

I honestly think Walker's death gave Furious 7 far more eyes than it had previously and I think the next film will course correct, but see a bump over Fast Six, which made $788 million worldwide.
 
I dunno, by the same token we can say that TF4 exploded in China because a good chunk of the movie was shot there and they had a famous Chinese actress in a large supporting role. Will TF5 have that?
 
I hope Fantastic Beasts will end up great and hit billion. A magic based IP that regularly delivers big budgeted flicks would be very nice to have.
 
What do we think BvS's worldwide total is looking like right now? I made a bet of 850 with a friend, who thinks it's going to be higher and easily hit 900m.
 
I dunno, by the same token we can say that TF4 exploded in China because a good chunk of the movie was shot there and they had a famous Chinese actress in a large supporting role. Will TF5 have that?

The other transformers films were huge for their eras as well though. Dark of the Moon did $160M back in 2011.

I think TF5 will at least match the gross of the last film in China. Its shot at $1B will depend on drops elsewhere.
 
That Rogue One teaser hit the right notes. Barring a BvS-level critical/screener reception in December, I think the film is in good shape to clear at least half of what TFA did worldwide.
 
That Rogue One teaser hit the right notes. Barring a BvS-level critical/screener reception in December, I think the film is in hood shape to clear at least half of what TFA did worldwide.

My random out there prediction right now:

380 mil domestic, 1.1 billion worldwide.
 
My random out there prediction right now:

380 mil domestic, 1.1 billion worldwide.

I think domestic could go higher if the final product isn't mediocre.

Star Wars fans are going to see this movie. Lets cut TFA's opening weekend in half for Rogue One, and call it $125M opening weekend. A conservative December blockbuster multiplier of 3.25x gets it to $406M domestic. TFA had a 3.77x multiplier. Even Desolation of Smaug had a 3.5x multiplier.

Assassin's Creed and Passengers are the only serious competition for that first 3 weeks.
 
That Rogue One teaser hit the right notes. Barring a BvS-level critical/screener reception in December, I think the film is in good shape to clear at least half of what TFA did worldwide.

I disagree entirely! Not gonna mention quality of it, but the trailer failed to communicate the most important thing: that's its a prequel. The room with green maps and whatnot, looks right out of Force Awakens. Big mistake. You cant expect viewers to use logic to ask "How come theres another Death Star - oh its the old one" theyre asking "Wheres Rey and Finn!?"
 
I disagree entirely! Not gonna mention quality of it, but the trailer failed to communicate the most important thing: that's its a prequel. The room with green maps and whatnot, looks right out of Force Awakens. Big mistake. You cant expect viewers to use logic to ask "How come theres another Death Star - oh its the old one" theyre asking "Wheres Rey and Finn!?"

Viewers aren't braindead idiots, despite what me might want to believe when a film we like bombs, or tripe makes bank.
 
I disagree entirely! Not gonna mention quality of it, but the trailer failed to communicate the most important thing: that's its a prequel. The room with green maps and whatnot, looks right out of Force Awakens. Big mistake. You cant expect viewers to use logic to ask "How come theres another Death Star - oh its the old one" theyre asking "Wheres Rey and Finn!?"

What?

Even if that was the case, "if", it's not like the movie opens tomorrow. There will be more trailers which will likely include more references to the period of time this takes place in the SW continuum.

I would expect the people who seriously think this is a sequel to TFA and be disappointed because it's not to be in the single digits. Worldwide.
 
Every writer and the director needs to be fired if BvS fails to hit $1B. There really isn't any excuse.

That movie was destined to be a flop once they failed to get Will Smith.

I'll be honest in that I have NO interest in ID4 2 sans Will Smith. I don't know if that's fair to everybody else working on it but that's just how I feel.
 
I disagree entirely! Not gonna mention quality of it, but the trailer failed to communicate the most important thing: that's its a prequel. The room with green maps and whatnot, looks right out of Force Awakens. Big mistake. You cant expect viewers to use logic to ask "How come theres another Death Star - oh its the old one" theyre asking "Wheres Rey and Finn!?"

This is literally why a giant company like WB thinks they can get away with making a BvS. Luckily, audiences actually AREN'T that dumb and vote with their paychecks.
 
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