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Wkd Box Office 04•24-26•15 - Adeline ages fast & furious, Ultron RULES THE WORLD

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kswiston

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There are some odd things going on with the reported overseas numbers for Furious 7. It seems as though Universal reported higher Mon/Tues grosses than last week, despite drops in the largest markets, and this weekend they reported a total $382M from China, even though the local estimate there is $370M. That's a pretty big over-report when China's entire weekend was $28M. Considering that China is driving the majority of Furious 7's business at this point, I wonder if that $1.429B figure is accurate.
 
Tickets sold , is this in the TOP 5 (weekend) ? (usa only).

Nobody on GAF working in theater chains with data ?

It's so easy to get this information here but studios seem to block it there.
 

richiek

steals Justin Bieber DVDs
It's over, period. Marvel lost their last ace, and that's the end of their MCU hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for Marvel Studios. Marvel has nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a MCU. Except if they want to watch Captain America: Civil War. Which will also make $180+ million opening weekend.

The age of Marvel is done.

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pestul

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I'm actually quite interested to see how different the actuals will be from the estimates this weekend. Sunday might be larger than they anticipate.. but I doubt it would be much into the $190m+ territory. This is not a disaster, but it has to be a massive disappointment to Disney in losing a bit of steam with the MCU. Luckily the Russo brothers are at the helm for CW and TA:IW 1-2.. and are likely to knock it out of the park.
 

wachie

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I'm actually quite interested to see how different the actuals will be from the estimates this weekend. Sunday might be larger than they anticipate.. but I doubt it would be much into the $190m+ territory. This is not a disaster, but it has to be a massive disappointment to Disney in losing a bit of steam with the MCU. Luckily the Russo brothers are at the helm for CW and TA:IW 1-2.. and likely to knock it out of the park.
For perspective, it's just 13M more than Iron Man 3, 2 years later.

The weekend number is awesome, just not by MCU event movie numbers.
 

vio

Member
It's over, period. Marvel lost their last ace, and that's the end of their MCU hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for Marvel Studios. Marvel has nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a MCU. Except if they want to watch Captain America: Civil War. Which will also make $180+ million opening weekend.

The age of Marvel is done.

Disney just shot themselves in the foot!
I don't know how much the rest of you know about comicbook culture (I'm an expert) but money and success... nm.

That.
 

kswiston

Member
Tickets sold , is this in the TOP 5 (weekend) ? (usa only).

Nobody on GAF working in theater chains with data ?

It's so easy to get this information here but studios seem to block it there.

Opening weekend grosses were pretty tiny until the 2000s. Batman 1989 destroyed the opening weekend record by over 30%, and even that adjusts to just over $80M today.

Given the info we have on ticket prices and 3D shares, it's tough to call. The breakdown between gen admins and child admins would be enough to screw things.

That said, top 3 openings by attendance are Spider-man 3, The Dark Knight, and Avengers (not necessarily in that order).

For perspective, it's just 13M more than Iron Man 3, 2 years later.

The weekend number is awesome, just not by MCU event movie numbers.

Average ticket prices have had a negligible increase in the past 2 years.
 

pestul

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Opening weekend grosses were pretty tiny until the 2000s. Batman 1989 destroyed the opening weekend record by over 30%, and even that adjusts to just over $80M today.

Given the info we have on ticket prices and 3D shares, it's tough to call. The breakdown between gen admins and child admins would be enough to screw things.

That said, top 3 openings by attendance are Spider-man 3, The Dark Knight, and Avengers (not necessarily in that order).
I was watching an AMC movie talk a while back, and I think they said that the average price for a film is less now than when the first Avengers came out. It would be interesting if would could ever get the total seats filled number.
 

kswiston

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I was watching an AMC movie talk a while back, and I think they said that the average price for a film is less now than when the first Avengers came out. It would be interesting if would could ever get the total seats filled number.

It is slightly, due to falling 3D shares.
 

Kusagari

Member
Ultron is the beginning of the end.

Once Ant Man fails to gross 100m the Age of Marvel will give way to the Dawn of DC.
 
Opening weekend grosses were pretty tiny until the 2000s. Batman 1989 destroyed the opening weekend record by over 30%, and even that adjusts to just over $80M today.

Given the info we have on ticket prices and 3D shares, it's tough to call. The breakdown between gen admins and child admins would be enough to screw things.

That said, top 3 openings by attendance are Spider-man 3, The Dark Knight, and Avengers (not necessarily in that order).

Interesting. Outside of the TOP 3. Thanks. It's a shame there is so few data regarding this stuff. The whole dollars thing is very annoying.
 
I'm actually quite interested to see how different the actuals will be from the estimates this weekend. Sunday might be larger than they anticipate.. but I doubt it would be much into the $190m+ territory. This is not a disaster, but it has to be a massive disappointment to Disney in losing a bit of steam with the MCU. Luckily the Russo brothers are at the helm for CW and TA:IW 1-2.. and are likely to knock it out of the park.

I think most of the Avengers are just tired out by AoU and people are losing interest in this particular movie.
Think thats why the reception hasn't been too great, Hawkeye & Captain America had decent showings in AoU but Iron Man, Widow, Thor and Hulk felt like more of the same.

However even with CW looking like Avengers 2.5, it is focused on Captain America who is on the rise and should have more played out characters like Tony Stark in a more interesting role.
So I see it doing way better than originally expected.

Kinda think they should reconsider Thor 3 at this point.
 

Cheebo

Banned
May vs Pac did $400 million in PPV. Think about that. Its fucking insane and for sure had an impact.

Maybe though Ultrons legs will be a bit better than people thought. That may help
Unless the estimates for Sunday radically change I don't think that looks to be the case.
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Definitely think the Sunday will be adjusted up
Would expect a lighter drop given that saturday had extenuating circumstances
Although that fight wasnt cheap so it may well have effected the entire weekend
 

mreddie

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It isn't entirely to blame. Friday fell short of expectations too, people seem to be forgetting this. Based on Friday alone the full weekend estimates were 202 mil, under tracking.

Are some think the theatres will be packed so they're just waiting for next weekend?
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
Anecdotal evidence and such, but I was surprised not to be in a packed theater on Saturday at 9 PM for Ultron.
Same for me at an 8pm showing. Only about half full. I guess everything else going on (the fight, NBA and NHL playoffs) ate into things more than expected.

Boggles my mind that people would pay that for a single viewing. It has to be more than a ticket to the fight.
Yeah, you might want to look into that.
 

Cheebo

Banned
Are some think the theatres will be packed so they're just waiting for next weekend?
I think you are really reaching here. Sunday would have better estimates if it was all due to the fight. Not to mention Friday was under expectations as mentioned earlier. The fight hurt, but there is clearly other elements at play here. There isn't going to be some magic turn around. Friday would have been much better if that was the case.
 

Ithil

Member
It isn't entirely to blame. Friday fell short of expectations too, people seem to be forgetting this. Based on Friday alone the full weekend estimates were 202 mil, under tracking.

I think you have said this about 43 times now.
 

mreddie

Member
I think you are really really reaching here. Sunday would have better estimates if it was all due to the fight. Not to mention Friday was under expectations as mentioned earlier. The fight hurt, but there is clearly other elements at play here. There isn't going to be some magic turn around. Friday would have been much better if that was the case.

Not expecting it to go up but some do have the logic of "Maybe the cinema is packed to teeth and everything is sold out, I'll wait til next week when the crowds calm."
That type of thinking still happens. Also, the majority of NBA Playoff/Stanley Cup games will be going on next weekend so that will come into play.
 

bigkrev

Member
Boggles my mind that people would pay that for a single viewing. It has to be more than a ticket to the fight.

LOL. Even the day before the fight when ticket prices were dropping like rocks

The median price at secondary ticket marketplace, SeatGeek, reached a peak of $13,152 on April 24, a day after tickets officially went on sale for the much-anticipated bout. They are down 52% to $6,345 as of today for the nearly 945 tickets still available on the site (see chart below). It is the same story for the cheapest tickets at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. The get-in price peaked at $6,332 on April 21, but has dropped every day since then to a low of $2,586 as of today. “The decline has been exacerbated by the late release of tickets, which resulted in a tight selling window and weakened demand,” says SeatGeek analyst Conor Gregoire.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad...eather-vs-pacquiao-plummet-50-over-past-week/
 

Peterthumpa

Member
It's over, period. Marvel lost their last ace, and that's the end of their MCU hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for Marvel Studios. Marvel has nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a MCU. Except if they want to watch Captain America: Civil War. Which will also make $180+ million opening weekend.

The age of Marvel is done.
Lads, this is the closest to "SE just shot themselves in the foot" V2 we can have.
 
Their problem was releasing it outside the US 1st. Although the reception was far from bad, it didn't have that 'must see' buzz from international viewers and that makes people think twice about waiting for a less busy day or even a cheaper ticket a little later.
 
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