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Wkd Box Office 04•24-26•15 - Adeline ages fast & furious, Ultron RULES THE WORLD

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Gentleman Jack said:
AMC theaters are by far the worst offenders here. There were six trailers, a commercial for...something and the usual beg to go buy soda/snacks at my F7 show. My favorite theater shows three trailers, no external ads and then the film starts. On time. A tolerable balance.
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Absolutely agreed; AMC takes it to a new level.

I always count how many trailers run before a movie, just out of interest. My record is eight (it was at an AMC theatre, before Nightcrawler, I think). I like trailers, but that's just ridiculous.
 
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Matt_

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BOM are so stupid
the biggest movie of the year and no weekend predictions, no thursday midnight report, probably no friday report
Wilfully missing out on so much traffic for no reason
 
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Cheebo

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Matt_ said:
BOM are so stupid
the biggest movie of the year and no weekend predictions, no thursday midnight report, probably no friday report
Wilfully missing out on so much traffic for no reason
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That site died when IMDB bought them. The BoxOfficeMojo community mostly all moved to BoxOffice.com
 
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Caode

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Matt_ said:
BOM are so stupid
the biggest movie of the year and no weekend predictions, no thursday midnight report, probably no friday report
Wilfully missing out on so much traffic for no reason
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I don't think they've had predictions up for a few weeks now. Strange.
 
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Matt_ said:
BOM are so stupid
the biggest movie of the year and no weekend predictions, no thursday midnight report, probably no friday report
Wilfully missing out on so much traffic for no reason
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Where can these numbers be found? Gaf can start our own thread like NPD.
 
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Hero_of_the_Day

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Gentleman Jack said:
AMC theaters are by far the worst offenders here. There were six trailers, a commercial for...something and the usual beg to go buy soda/snacks at my F7 show. My favorite theater shows three trailers, no external ads and then the film starts. On time. A tolerable balance.
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Yep. Fuck AMC so hard. 25 fucking minutes of trailers is ridiculous. And then they follow it up with that "Yeah, we know you like trailers. Go online to see more!" message... the rage fills me.

jtb said:
AMC runs the most trailers but their cinemas are also (in my experience anyways) the cleanest.
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I don't know how big a chain Carmike is, but the one near me is always clean, has way less trailers, bigger and more comfortable chairs, cheaper prices, and better screens than the AMC. I always wind up going to AMC, though, because it's closer to my friends and family. I'm the odd one out, so I have to go to the inferior theater.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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Deadline updated the opening day numbers to $94-97m, which would supplant HP8 for the all time opening day record if it holds.

HP8 still holds the midnight/early preview record though.
 
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jett

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Matt_ said:
BOM are so stupid
the biggest movie of the year and no weekend predictions, no thursday midnight report, probably no friday report
Wilfully missing out on so much traffic for no reason
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iIMDB, its owners, don't give a shit about promoting the website. They in fact killed it last year, but brought it back due to massive backlash and complaining. What we have right now is a half-assed BOM. Soon enough iMDB will kill it dead.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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jett said:
iIMDB, its owners, don't give a shit about promoting the website. They in fact killed it last year, but brought it back due to massive backlash and complaining. What we have right now is a half-assed BOM. Soon enough iMDB will kill it dead.
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Is there another site with the charts and breakdowns for most films like BOM has? I haven't dug around BoxOffice.com too much yet.
 
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Matt_

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jett said:
iIMDB, its owners, don't give a shit about promoting the website. They in fact killed it last year, but brought it back due to massive backlash and complaining. What we have right now is a half-assed BOM. Soon enough iMDB will kill it dead.
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yeah the thing is though they did predictions and friday reports for a bit after they brought it back for a while
They had regular forecasts, friday reports and weekend reports (with separate round the world write ups) up until the weekend Furious 7 released

Its the same guy that writes them all too so its not like hes gone anywhere


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Deadling predicting a 94-97 friday
I still dont think it will take the day record from potter
 
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Corpsepyre

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Do cinemas in the US show 30 minute ads before the movies, as they do in the UK? I swear I could kill someone if I ever had to watch that Kevin Bacon EE Network ad again!
 
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Razgriz-Specter

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Corpsepyre said:
Do cinemas in the US show 30 minute ads before the movies, as they do in the UK? I swear I could kill someone if I ever had to watch that Kevin Bacon EE Network ad again!
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Most theaters have their own "entertainment" pre-showtime with Trivia and average types of advertisement.
At showtime you switch to movie trailers for a long while(Avengers 2 had 25minutes of previews at my showing.)
 
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I've saw I a screening last week and I went to the marathon yesterday...I found out my theaters was sold out for most of the showings on friday. I don't care much for it but this movie is going to be a beast in the boxoffice.
 
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Cheebo

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Matt_ said:
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Deadling predicting a 94-97 friday
I still dont think it will take the day record from potter
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http://deadline.com/2015/05/avengers-age-of-ultron-thursday-box-office-1201419080/

It ended up coming in under expectations, friday of 85 million. The chance of it getting the OW record from the first Avengers are almost certainly gone now.

There goes my 220 mil prediction, oh well. With that number the folks over at BoxOffice.com are saying it should come in at 190-195 mil for the weekend. Huge of course, but not record breaking.
 
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massivekettle

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Cheebo said:
http://deadline.com/2015/05/avengers-age-of-ultron-thursday-box-office-1201419080/

It ended up coming in under expectations, friday of 85 million. The chance of it getting the OW record from the first Avengers are almost certainly gone now.

There goes my 220 mil prediction, oh well. With that number the folks over at BoxOffice.com are saying it should come in at 190-195 mil for the weekend. Huge of course, but not record breaking.
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Safe to say that Furious 7 took a lot of wind out of Avengers' sails. I think Avengers fatigue is quietly settling in with a movie every 6-9 months. Also, doesn't help that this movie appears to be a notch below the first one, so definitely see less legs on this one than on the previous one.

IMO, if Ultron manages to match TA1 in WW gross, it will be great at this point.

Star Wars definitely has a clean shot at the title now.

EDIT: Also, there will undoubtedly be a hit from the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight...
 
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Cheebo

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We shouldn't be seeing it as disappointing at all, thats a great number. I think everyone just got hype get the better of us and it became a forgone conclusion it'd do better than the first, it doesn't have the "oh my god they are all teaming up!" aspect of the first.

Although Disney themselves let it get the best of them, when the early 95-97 estimates were hitting Disney put out a press release saying the "opening weekend record was in sight"...which is not going to happen anymore. They should have held off till the full Friday estimates were in.
 
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massivekettle

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Cheebo said:
We shouldn't be seeing it as disappointing at all, thats a great number. I think everyone just got hype get the better of us and it became a forgone conclusion it'd do better than the first, it doesn't have the "oh my god they are all teaming up!" aspect of the first.
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Whilst it doesn't have the fresh aspect from the first, the run up to TA2 built a lot of momentum (IM3, WS) and TA1 was well received. Given inflation and more 3D/D-Box/IMAX than in 2012, it wasn't that farfetched to imagine TA2 outgrossing TA1.
 
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Exterminieren

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It can be both a great number and a disappointing one.

The initial tracking and the overseas grosses will have led Disney towards thinking that it was going to break the OW record. The fact that it won't will be disappointing, despite it being objectively very successful.
 
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Cheebo

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ksharp said:
Whilst it doesn't have the fresh aspect from the first, the run up to TA2 built a lot of momentum (IM3, WS) and TA1 was well received. Given inflation and more 3D/D-Box/IMAX than in 2012, it wasn't that farfetched to imagine TA2 outgrossing TA1.
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Agree, and that is what virtually everyone was predicting. But when we look back in context it makes sense it would fall a little short. I mean that "wow" factor of a team up movie isn't there this time.
 
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excelsiorlef

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ksharp said:
Safe to say that Furious 7 took a lot of wind out of Avengers' sails. I think Avengers fatigue is quietly settling in with a movie every 6-9 months. Also, doesn't help that this movie appears to be a notch below the first one, so definitely see less legs on this one than on the previous one.

IMO, if Ultron manages to match TA1 in WW gross, it will be great at this point.

Star Wars definitely has a clean shot at the title now.

EDIT: Also, there will undoubtedly be a hit from the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight...
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Yeah Furious 7 killed Avengers that's why it's had the second biggest Friday ever and will finish likely just blow the original Avengers for biggest opening weekend (but possibly only because of that mega hyped once in a lifetime fight)
 
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Cheebo

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This thing is likely to not do 500 mil (my 550 mil prediction is a bit over hah) now. Probably high 400's now depending on how WOM settles in.

excelsiorlef said:
Yeah Furious 7 killed Avengers that's why it's had the second biggest Friday ever and will finish likely just blow the original Avengers for biggest opening weekend (but possibly only because of that mega hyped once in a lifetime fight)
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I really don't think we can blame the fight for Avengers AOU not getting the opening weekend record, that is a silly excuse.

There is no reason to make excuses, the opening is GREAT. Not everything has to be record shattering to still be very very impressive.
 
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massivekettle

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excelsiorlef said:
Yeah Furious 7 killed Avengers that's why it's had the second biggest Friday ever and will finish likely just blow the original Avengers for biggest opening weekend (but possibly only because of that mega hyped once in a lifetime fight)
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Cheebo said:
This thing is likely to not do 500 mil (my 550 mil prediction is a bit over hah) now. Probably high 400's now depending on how WOM settles in.



I really don't think we can blame the fight for Avengers AOU not getting the opening weekend record, that is a silly excuse.

There is no reason to make excuses, the opening is GREAT. Not everything has to be record shattering to still be very very impressive.
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There will definitely be a small hit OW-wise because of the fight.

If TA2 doesn't do >$500m, would that be one of the biggest domestic box office drops of all time between sequels (>$125m)?

Just like Furious 7, I expect this movie to crack the $1B overseas which should allow it to bridge any gap to TA1, but still $1.4-1.5bn is a bit disappointing when people were talking "Titanic" numbers a few weeks ago.
 
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Cheebo

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ksharp said:
There will definitely be a small hit OW-wise because of the fight.

If TA2 doesn't do >$500m, would that be one of the biggest domestic box office drops of all time between sequels (>$125m)?

Just like Furious 7, I expect this movie to crack the $1B overseas which should allow it to bridge any gap to TA1, but still $1.4-1.5bn is a bit disappointing when people were talking "Titanic" numbers a few weeks ago.
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The original Star Wars to The Empire Strikes Back is comparable:

Pre-any sort of re-release Star Wars:
307 million

Pre-any sort of re-release Empire Strikes Back:
209 million

I think it's a comparable situation. The lightning in a bottle aspect of the first just can't ever be replicated, but the sequel still makes tons and tons of money.
 
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pestul

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So a little lower than expected.. and now I think Mayweather / Pacquiao will bite into Saturday a little bit too. It might actually come in below $190M.

Star Wars EP7 has got this.
 
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Cheebo

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pestul said:
So a little lower than expected.. and now I think Mayweather / Pacquiao will bite into Saturday a little bit too. It might actually come in below $190M.
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I just can't see it going below 190 mil, the appeal to kids will make it have a solid Sat hold. I am thinking 195 mil still.
 
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Cheebo said:
This thing is likely to not do 500 mil (my 550 mil prediction is a bit over hah) now. Probably high 400's now depending on how WOM settles in.



I really don't think we can blame the fight for Avengers AOU not getting the opening weekend record, that is a silly excuse.

There is no reason to make excuses, the opening is GREAT. Not everything has to be record shattering to still be very very impressive.
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Yeah maybe but the difference between breaking the record and where it's projected is like about 5-6 million, and the article says they're predicting a higher drop rate (20% over 14% for the first) and that could be because of the fight and that % is about what AoU would need to break the record.

So yeah.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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So, not a record.

The original's opening weekend was a very big hill to climb. Maybe Infinity War pt2 will best it in a few years.

I still don't see Star Wars besting this for opening weekend just because of December opening, but it will have beastly legs. The end of December is all about the weekday numbers.
 
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Cheebo

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PhoncipleBone said:
So, not a record.

The original's opening weekend was a very big hill to climb. Maybe Infinity War pt2 will best it in a few years.

I still don't see Star Wars besting this for opening weekend just because of December opening, but it will have beastly legs. The end of December is all about the weekday numbers.
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Yep, agreed on all counts. Especially if Infinity War 2 is marketed as the final film of the Chris Evans, Downey Jr, etc group. Finale films tend to get sizable boosts in openings.
 
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Obliterator

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That number looks pretty dissapointing to me. I honestly think the trailers and marketing for this film weren't that impressive
 
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Mr. Pointy

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ksharp said:
Just like Furious 7, I expect this movie to crack the $1B overseas which should allow it to bridge any gap to TA1, but still $1.4-1.5bn is a bit disappointing when people were talking "Titanic" numbers a few weeks ago.
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If that happens and F7 can crawl to $1.5 billion, shit would be crazy.
 
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Obliterator

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Kusagari said:
Without the Thursday shows the 85m means actual Friday business was only 4m over IM3.
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Yeah this doesn't look that impressive of a start. Which is kind of surprising because all Phase 2 movies out grossed phase 1.

I realize that these are still big numbers but if it opens under 200 million thats got to be a disappointment
 
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Obliterator

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Cheebo said:
Literally no one thinks this will have as good legs as Avengers 1. No chance at all for that. It will do great but I mean this thing is not getting near the 600 mil of the first.
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Yeah, which has to beg the question what happened. If this opens under 200 million its going to miss the originals numbers by a huge amount. Its going to be a big decline unless somehow it pulls out miraculous legs.

So what happened? Marvel themselves have to be wondering, especially considering the momentum they were on through all of Phase 2. To see the culmination of that Phase underperform is a little strange
 
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