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Wkd Box Office 06•12-14•15 - It's Jurassic World, we all just live in it, dino-might!

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Isn't he the legendary character from this panel?

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LOL. Now this I would pay multiple times to see
 

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If anything, the Ant-Man release will add fuel to the fire if it underperforms. It'll be like when Green Lantern came out.

Aren't you guys tired of those?

The feathers I mean?

The feathers in your mouth?

The ones that are still in there?

After all that crow you've eaten?
 
A peak merely implies that the popularity has crested and can't be achieved again.

For a gaming analogy, Call of Duty is still the biggest annual franchise but it clearly peaked with either Modern Warfare 2 or the first Black Ops in terms of popularity.

BvS, Avengers 3, Cap 3, and GOTG 2 can all be tremendously successful without ever passing the first Avengers.


I think it depends on how Civil War does. There's simply no basis to say it has peaked, and saying JW's success cements such notion is just dumb.
 

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Oh with $262M this is the biggest weekend ever beating Christmas 2009 when Avatar was ruling
 
I think it depends on how Civil War does. There's simply no basis to say it has peaked, and saying JW's success cements such notion is just dumb.

JW alone wouldn't cement it, but if Avengers 2 ends up only slightly ahead in international numbers with Transformers 4 and is flat out beaten by Furious 7, Jurassic Park 4, and Star Wars 7 all in the same year? And Cap 3 despite the Avengers-like casting "only" hits around Iron Man 3 numbers?

That might be a little bit of a pattern.

Unless Ultron really was permanently dented by lesser WoM & the Mayweather fight, in which case a rebound could be reasonably forecast provided the upcoming slate are stronger and better scheduled.
 
JW alone wouldn't cement it, but if Avengers 2 ends up only slightly ahead in international numbers with Transformers 4 and is flat out beaten by Furious 7, Jurassic Park 4, and Star Wars 7 all in the same year? And Cap 3 despite the Avengers-like casting "only" hits around Iron Man 3 numbers?

That might be a little bit of a pattern.

Unless Ultron really was permanently dented by lesser WoM & the Mayweather fight, in which case a rebound could be reasonably forecast provided the upcoming slate are stronger and better scheduled.

I don't think it will mean that the age of superhero movies is over, but I think it would signify that we have found their ceiling, which can still be tremendously successful don't get me wrong.

I do wonder how much that has to do with the same cast of characters and maybe as crazy as it sounds people getting a little bit tired of the Iron Man/Cap/Hulk/Thor core. A few years back people thought that RDJ retiring from MCU might be the worst thing in the world but it might actually end up being a blessing in disguise for them if it makes them re-focus on a fresh crew with Spiderman/BP/Doctor Strange/Ant-Man
 

Alrus

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I'm really curious how high JW will go at the end of its run.

I think it depends on how Civil War does. There's simply no basis to say it has peaked, and saying JW's success cements such notion is just dumb.

The basis is that Avengers 2 couldn't enjoy the growth all the previous phase 2 movies experienced. Whether you think it's unjustified to conclude to a peak or not is fine, but you can't really dismiss people saying so as being completely delusional. Genre might have reached peak interest for now. We'll see when Civil War releases.
 

Blader

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A peak merely implies that the popularity has crested and can't be achieved again.

For a gaming analogy, Call of Duty is still the biggest annual franchise but it clearly peaked with either Modern Warfare 2 or the first Black Ops in terms of popularity.

BvS, Avengers 3, Cap 3, and GOTG 2 can all be tremendously successful without ever passing the first Avengers.

I know, but people have also been saying the genre has peaked for years now -- before both TDK and Avengers hit. Then those movies came out and dominated.
 

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For the superhero genre we went from super origins, to super teams, and soon the upcoming super wars. I don't know how the hell you can top that, or if that is even the direction they'll be going in, but it does feel like it's on a down cycle. We've already seen super fatigue with Sony's Spiderverse which has merged with the MCU, which is also something people didn't really expect. In other words: hold on to your butts, superhero industry is crazy.
 
I think pratt is turning into the new will smith

I didn't think we'd get one any time soon but surely he's the one following that trajectory right now. We'll see with his next movie
 
So happy for Jurassic World. Just got out of the film and my whole theater loved it.

The last 30 minutes are fucking incredible. Most fun sequence from a film I can remember in a long time
 
Some Worldwide box office updates:

Avengers: Age of Ultron - $1.362B
Tomorrowland - $187M
Pitch Perfect 2 - $262M
Furious 7 - $1.511B
Spy - $137M
San Andreas - $373M
Mad Max: Fury Road - $334M


Fury Road is still holding on in the Box Office, so I am happy to see that. I was hoping that it would at least make 400 million at the box office worldwide, but I don't quite think it will. Jurassic World numbers are crazy.



"World rex world rec."

World Rex wrex world rec.
 

kswiston

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I think we are all assuming that JW will adjust up and take the record. But by how much? I am guessing end total will be about $209 or so.

It's going to be a relatively small amount. I think the best case scenario would be $5M or so over Avengers. Less than TDK's victory over Spider-man 3 (which was the smallest OW record bump percentage-wise since Jurassic Park took the record in 1993).

JW alone wouldn't cement it, but if Avengers 2 ends up only slightly ahead in international numbers with Transformers 4 and is flat out beaten by Furious 7, Jurassic Park 4, and Star Wars 7 all in the same year? And Cap 3 despite the Avengers-like casting "only" hits around Iron Man 3 numbers?

That might be a little bit of a pattern.

Unless Ultron really was permanently dented by lesser WoM & the Mayweather fight, in which case a rebound could be reasonably forecast provided the upcoming slate are stronger and better scheduled.

Age of Ultron will end up about $85M ahead of Transformers 4 overseas, even with T4's $85M lead in China. Domestic, the difference is $200M, so I am not sure why that film is in the conversation.

Furious 7 will end up about $220-225M ahead of Age of Ultron overseas, but again $155M of that lead was in China. As you can probably see, China can make or break movies at this point in time.

Jurassic World isn't locked to pass Age of Ultron overseas despite this weekend. Ultron had a staggered worldwide release, but was comparable in size (if not bigger) if you look at individual territory openings. It was much bigger in Latin America and Asia. Smaller in Europe. Chinese grosses will probably be comparable though. Jurassic World should be firmly ahead domestically, so if the holds are good overseas, I expect it to pass Age of Ultron (and perhaps Furious 7).

We will have to wait and see regarding Star Wars. Age of Ultron was a good demonstration of counting your chickens before they hatch.

That said, Furious 7 is the only film of those above that isn't part of a franchise that hasn't previously scored a Top 5 of all time Worldwide hit. I don't really see your pattern.
 
It's going to be a relatively small amount. I think the best case scenario would be $5M or so over Avengers. Less than TDK's victory over Spider-man 3 (which was the smallest OW record bump percentage-wise since Jurassic Park took the record in 1993).

I thought the Avengers record, hell, even the $200m threshold would hold for a few more years at least. But man, did Jurassic World bring the thunder this weekend. It is so fun to see something come out of nowhere and kick some ass.
 

kswiston

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I thought the Avengers record, hell, even the $200m threshold would hold for a few more years at least. But man, did Jurassic World bring the thunder this weekend. It is so fun to see something come out of nowhere and kick some ass.

I actually see Batman v Superman hitting the $200M barrier next year. I like the MCU more than I liked Man of Steel, but it would be silly to ignore the facts that Man of Steel had a pretty large launch on its own, this adds Batman in their first ever joint film, and Batman has broken the OW record 4 times (plus TDKR holds the 2D opening record).
 

Shantom

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Boxofficemojo has When Marnie Was There making $312,000 this weekend but only $311,000 to date. Is there a site with a correct total?
 

wachie

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Fury Road is still holding on in the Box Office, so I am happy to see that. I was hoping that it would at least make 400 million at the box office worldwide, but I don't quite think it will. Jurassic World numbers are crazy.
Max needed a China release and that's not happening so 400M is sadly gone at this point.

I thought the WW numbers were being reported as $511 million? Or has BoxOffice Mojo not updated?
Mojo doesnt do a WW top 10, also they have been going to shit repeatedly as the regulars kept leaving one by one. Thanks fucking IMDB.

A peak merely implies that the popularity has crested and can't be achieved again.

For a gaming analogy, Call of Duty is still the biggest annual franchise but it clearly peaked with either Modern Warfare 2 or the first Black Ops in terms of popularity.

BvS, Avengers 3, Cap 3, and GOTG 2 can all be tremendously successful without ever passing the first Avengers.
This, apparently people dont understand what a peak means. However I wouldnt say the superhero genre has peaked based on one or two examples.

Man, this boxoffice threads used to be interesting, but its really only Marvel shitposting at this point.
He singled out superheroes so DC is included. Dont be upset.
 
I actually see Batman v Superman hitting the $200M barrier next year. I like the MCU more than I liked Man of Steel, but it would be silly to ignore the facts that Man of Steel had a pretty large launch on its own, this adds Batman in their first ever joint film, and Batman has broken the OW record 4 times (plus TDKR holds the 2D opening record).
Right now I see BvS doing Iron Man 3 or Age of Ultron opening numbers. It will be huge either way.
 
Right now I see BvS doing Iron Man 3 or Age of Ultron opening numbers. It will be huge either way.

Thursday will be the test. if BvS gets the Word of Mouth hype...it might just MIGHT break JW's record.

Obviously wishful thinking, but considering JW just broke Avengers record, at this point, if Terminator made a billion, I wouldn't even be shocked.

Pandora's box has just been opened.
 

kswiston

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RTH just posted a new update. Assuming that the Fri/Sat grosses don't change down the range is: 210-212.5 million.

Seems in line with what we were expecting before Universal gave their estimate.


Also if Genisys breaks $1B I will change my avatar (for the first time in my 10 years on GAF) to "Emilia Clarke for best Actress" for the rest of the year. I think there is a better chance of Star Wars NOT hitting $1B than there is of Genisys hitting $1B (ie none).
 

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The Terminator well was poisoned faaaar worse than the Jurassic Park one ever was. AND that stink was only a few years ago, compared to the 14+ years of JP.

Terminator as a franchise will never recover, bet on it, and unlike Jurassic Park, which can be revisited because lets face it, it's always been about the Dinosaurs, James Cameron's Terminators were about the characters, the story AND the action.
 

Ahasverus

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Genesis is not breaking records because, different to JW, it's not marketed nor aclnowleged as the true sequel to their beloved films, but a cheap sequel to a bad recent series.
 
Genesis is not breaking records because, different to JW, it's not marketed nor aclnowleged as the true sequel to their beloved films, but a cheap sequel to a bad recent series.

Even ignoring that, Terminator isn't a film that will attract families imo.

You can be successful without families, but you can't go huge.
 
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