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Wkd Box Office 0612-1415 - It's Jurassic World, we all just live in it, dino-might!
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I see what you did there.
PhoncipleBone
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Now, if they did a new Terminator with Arnold and had Cameron back at the reins, then I could see it hitting big. Just market it as "The King has returned."
Wafflecakes
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Arnold is too past his prime and James Cameron does not sell his movies on his name alone. I doubt even that would be a huge success.
PhoncipleBone
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Are you sure about that? I know there are a lot of other factors at play with Titanic and Avatar, but I would think that Cameron's name has some pull after the two highest grossing films of all time.
Wafflecakes
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I agree with Dead. I think very few people would see a film just because Cameron made it.
Cameron is just mad talented at making event movies.
Yeah, inside out could easily get lost in the shuffle.
Cameron is just mad talented at making event movies.
Yeah, inside out could easily get lost in the shuffle.
I don't think he has the same brand and visibility of guys like Spielberg, Lucas or Bay despite being more successful than any of them. His name has never really done much when it comes to stuff he produces also (though he usually produces smaller scale stuff and not blockbusters. Strange Days, Solaris, Sanctum, etc)
Not saying he is unrecognizable, and yeah it would make some people take notice but I dont think its as large an effect as some would imagine
Not saying he is unrecognizable, and yeah it would make some people take notice but I dont think its as large an effect as some would imagine
Maninthemirror
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How is this doing so well . I'm in a theater which always reflects box office and I'm only one in here 5 mins from movie
alfredofroylan
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Most people have to work tomorrow early I guess
PhoncipleBone
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The problem is that we really don't have enough films to gauge that. There was a 12 year gap between his films (not counting documentaries with limited release), so we can't really look at how much his name influences grosses like Nolan or Spielberg do right now.
I am in partial agreement with you though. I think the reason his "brand" isn't as visible as the other guys is that he simply doesn't put out as much product as the others. But man, when he puts out a product it does pull in the money.
They should just market Genisys with Cameron's name put a small asterisk and at the end of the trailer "endorsed by Cameron". That will make sure at least the opening is twice as big.
Yes, terrible scheduling by Disney unfortunately.
Wafflecakes
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Are you sure you didn't accidentally slip into a Mad Max screening?
Charles Foster Kane
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The only recent director to really build a brand around his name is Nolan. He just ticks all the boxes that fanboys love. Ultra serious, Male centric stories, which give viewers some kind of pseudo-intellectual power fantasy (ie you dont get it, etc). Shit for a moment, all his movied ended the same way too. Cold cut, black, title in the middle, A chris nolan film. Dude just drank his own kool-aid.
Or they are watching the Bethesda conference!
Uh the burn. It hurts.
IIRC Jurassic Park was the number 1 movie of all time worldwide until Titanic? Or Maybe Star Wars dethroned it briefly with the special edition?
But yeah, Spielberg is much more of a Hollywood "in" guy, with his hands in a lot of things. Cameron basically just does what he wants, ie take a break for 12 years to dive in the sea.
PhoncipleBone
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Variety: Five reasons Jurassic World was a box office monster. #1: Chris Pratt is a star. Period.
I agree with some on here that he is in Will Smith zone right now. His name isn't what is selling it, but he is a good reason for it working and will reap the benefits.
Although, anecdotal evidence incoming, nearly every woman I work with went to see the film this weekend mainly because it had Pratt in it. The Pratt love at my work is very, very strong with the ladies.
I agree with some on here that he is in Will Smith zone right now. His name isn't what is selling it, but he is a good reason for it working and will reap the benefits.
Although, anecdotal evidence incoming, nearly every woman I work with went to see the film this weekend mainly because it had Pratt in it. The Pratt love at my work is very, very strong with the ladies.
It depends on what we are talking about. If you are talking about Domestic box office, E.T. was #1 for nearly 15 years, from 1982 until 1997 when the special edition added ~$140M to Star Wars. Jurassic Park was a narrow #2 if we are counting first runs only.
Worldwide, E.T. was #1 until Jurassic Park, which was #1 until Titanic.
Oh shit, I'm the 39% under 25.
PhoncipleBone
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E.T. was the first film I saw in theaters. At least according to my mother. I don't remember seeing it in theaters that young though. I remember getting the VHS in the late 80s or something, and seeing it in theaters at some point as well. It looks like it had a theatrical rerelease in 85 or so, which might be where my memory of it comes from.
I do remember the VHS having a green flap on the top of the tape though.
My first theatrical memory was Return of the Jedi though. Some theater in PA on a crappy rainy day. I had only seen Star Wars at that point thanks to showing it on CBS or whatever, and had never seen Empire Strikes Back until it released on VHS a few years later. But man, Star Wars was a huge part of my childhood.
I was just a tad too young to see the original trilogy in theatres. I saw the special editions when I was a teenager.
The earliest movie I know for a fact that I saw in theatres was Land Before Time. However, I remember seeing Gremlins and Goonies as a double feature at a drive in when I was very young. My dad made me hide under a blanket so he didn't have to pay for me. Based on BOM release dates, I probably saw the 1985 re-issues (making me about 3 years old at the time).
The earliest movie I know for a fact that I saw in theatres was Land Before Time. However, I remember seeing Gremlins and Goonies as a double feature at a drive in when I was very young. My dad made me hide under a blanket so he didn't have to pay for me. Based on BOM release dates, I probably saw the 1985 re-issues (making me about 3 years old at the time).
PhoncipleBone
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I remember going to Hardee's to get the Gremlins storybooks that came with the vinyl records in the back. And I had a stuffed Gizmo and Stripe when I was a kid. Somehow I broke the ankle off of Stripe and my mom had to sew it back on.
I had a Gizmo comforter on my bed for awhile. Having watched Gremlins again recently, I question my parents' decision to take their 3 year old to it. I am surprised it didn't give me nightmares.
PhoncipleBone
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I love the movie even more as I get older. It is so twisted and fucked up. I want a third Gremlins film, dammit.
EDIT: And you wonder why I am so messed up. Before I was 10 years old I was well versed in George Carlin stand up, lots of R rated horror and action films like Halloween and Terminator, and tons of R rated 80s comedies like Trading Places and whatnot.
My parents were pretty liberal when it came to movie ratings. My dad used to let me watch whatever on Cable as long as there wasn't excessive nudity. Like everyone else from that era, I grew up on Aliens, Predator, Terminator, Jean Claude Van Damme films, etc.
The only movie I remember freaking me out was Pet Sematary.
The only movie I remember freaking me out was Pet Sematary.
PhoncipleBone
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Ditto. Didn't stop me from staying up really late and catching stuff on Cinemax to see the nudity.
You're in the mirror world where everyone's predictions for JW actually came true!
Discotheque
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dat amblin entertainment. I was born in 1990 but i certainly grew up on that, jurassic park and the terminator films.
LOTR was naturally my star wars though tbh.
Without a doubt, Spielberg is the most influential director alive. Just taking a look at the highest grossing films with inflation.
ET(4), Jaws(7), Jurassic Park(16), Raiders(20). Cameron just has Titanic(5) and Avatar(15).
Only other one with more presence is Lucas. Between Star Wars(All 6 on it), Indiana Jones(3 of them), and American Graffiti.
Spielberg also has Paramount behind him.
To be fair, Disney released Monsters U a week after Man of Steel and that got Pixar's second biggest opening ever, and before two days ago, there was no reason to think Jurassic World would make more than 130M OW.
I'm not convinced that JW will actually significantly affect Inside Out's opening. And there are 3 weeks between that and Minions (Monsters University had only two before Despicable Me 2 opened, and still made almost $270 million domestically).
Cameron simply does not direct enough to be as influential as Spielberg. Spielberg has directed 16 films over the past 25 years and Cameron has done 4 over that span.
Spielberg turns out the hits on a frequent basis while Cameron pops up every once in awhile and drops a big film.
Spielberg turns out the hits on a frequent basis while Cameron pops up every once in awhile and drops a big film.
Gambit 1138
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The Driver
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Fug it, helping this crush Avengers record and watching it again right now.
Thing is this Terminator film has no Cameron involvement outside of him trying to hype it. I'm sure most moviegoers will realize this big difference.
LumpOfCole
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There's only one place to go from here.
There's only one place to go from here.
Man I miss Calvin and Hobbes.
So pretty much everywhere is confirming that the weekend record is gone. Actuals are likely going to fall in the $210-212M range when we get them in 5-6 hours.
Avengers kept the record for six weeks longer than expected, but as is the case with the OW record, no one can keep it for long.
Avengers kept the record for six weeks longer than expected, but as is the case with the OW record, no one can keep it for long.
Razgriz-Specter
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There's only one place to go from here.
That reminds me, its time to cash in on the nostalgia for Top Gun!
Monster U and Man of Steel are different genre than Inside Out and Minions. And Monsters is an established franchise with a toy line and ton of other merchandise, Inside Out isnt. They should have booked a late July spot.
PhoncipleBone
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So this will probably stand until Infinity War 2, or Jurassic War.
Damn impressive opening.
This is summer and Minions doesn't come out until Inside Out's 4th weekend. It's not going to matter that much. Monsters University and Despicable Me 2 were a week and a half closer in release dates, and DM2 was probably a bigger movie domestically than Minions will be.
As for next weekend, Monsters University launched alongside a $66M opener and Man of Steel's $41M second weekend. Like I said, summer can handle a lot of business.
Star Wars 8 probably would have taken that record (being a May film), but it is currently scheduled for a Thursday opening.
As for next weekend, Monsters University launched alongside a $66M opener and Man of Steel's $41M second weekend. Like I said, summer can handle a lot of business.
Star Wars 8 probably would have taken that record (being a May film), but it is currently scheduled for a Thursday opening.
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