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Wkd Box Office 12•18-20•15 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m

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Has it surpassed Avatar yet? All this info is kind of confusing.

It will very likely not surprass Avatar worldwide, as that movie made 2.7 billion dollars (760 domestic, 2 bil international)

It will very likely surpass Avatar domestically, as Avatar made 760 million in North America, and The Force Awakens will have done about 2/3rds that total in 8 days.

Basically, the exchange rate of 2009 was a lot friendlier, and even if it weren't, the box-office overseas isn't quite as robust for The Force Awakens as it was for Avatar. Or at least, it seems to not be - China won't open until the 2nd weekend in January.

It seems to be more or less done deal that The Force Awakens will end up at #1 domestic, #2-3 worldwide.

It could become the first film to make over 1 billion in North America alone.
 

Exodust

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So what's the actual record now? Has Star Wars beaten every record there is or...?

Has it surpassed Avatar yet? All this info is kind of confusing.

It's on track to surpass Avatar domestically, globally is a long shot to say the least. It's been breaking records(mostly records JW held for the past couple of months) since release.
 
I'm not quite shocked it will almost certainly overtake Avatar domestic. I didn't call it or anything, but it's not surprising. The race for domestic has always been close, with most new #1s usually just marginally overtaking the previous. Except Titanic of course. That was a wrecking. $600mil in 1997 dollars is kind of obscene.

Worldwide though, I don't think there was ever a chance. Two. Billion. Dollars. You have to keep perspective of how insane that is for an overseas total, especially for the time. Like, it was so ludicrously far and away from anything that any other movie in history made. The Dark Knight, phenomenal critical and commercial success, wheezed its way across the line to become the 4th movie ever to make $1bil worldwide. A year later, Avatar doubled it without even including that #1 all time domestic gross.

Titanic was always the real monster though. The world will never again see something that performs like that beast. Avatar was the #1 movie for 7 weeks. Titanic was for 15. No other movie since has even managed half of that. And overseas, it's still the bigger movie in a lot of places like Japan. Avatar beats it out overall because of its crazy performance in emerging markets, which Titanic didn't have the benefit of in 1997/1998.

Anyway, what will be really interesting to see is how Star Wars does in China. Even in 2009 when Avatar obliterated records, China wasn't that big of a force. Now it's the second largest market and has already had higher grosses than America for western films, such as Pacific Rim, Transformers: Age of Extinction, Terminator Genysis, and Fast & Furious 7.
 

-Plasma Reus-

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Pretty sure I called it overtaking Avatar domestically. Hell, I even remember specifically saying it would break pretty much all records domestically. My reasoning was that star wars has had free marketing for the past 30 years. Every TV show/movie would mention it, and for many celebs it's the go to thing to mention how 'secretly nerdy' they are. Even though SW is ironically the biggest thing entertainment wise in the US. It's a recipe for success when celebrities talk about your franchise, let alone for 30 years straight.I would have been more surprised if SW didn't make bank like this.
 
Pretty sure I called it overtaking Avatar domestically. Hell, I even remember specifically saying it would break pretty much all records domestically. My reasoning was that star wars has had free marketing for the past 30 years. Every TV show/movie would mention it, and for many celebs it's the go to thing to mention how 'secretly nerdy' they are. Even though SW is ironically the biggest thing entertainment wise in the US. It's a recipe for success when celebrities talk about your franchise, let alone for 30 years straight.I would have been more surprised if SW didn't make bank like this.

Well jokes on you cuz Jurassic World still holds best Saturday record!

Now watch Star Wars increase WoW and break it this weekend.
 

borghe

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What Avatar did in WW admissions was incredible, but we shouldn't downplay that 2009 was the end of the first official year of the US recession. The value of the dollar was slaughtered still. Tough to say exactly but I'd guess had the dollar been where it's at now, Avatar wouldn't be too much ahead of Titanic's current WW. ($1.5-1.8M OS?) Still for WW performance, even beating Titanic is far from a lock yet. And probably wouldn't even be feasible without looking likely to be the first US movie to hit $900M (not calling $1B "likely", yet...)

Edit - caviar, yeah someone (ghaleon? Kswiston?) posted estimated admissions and Titanic was 2nd or 3rd all time. Even as impressive as Avatar's revenue was, that saw a huge portion come from 3D and large format. As insane as TFA domestic is now, Titanic was STILL bigger. I mean jesus....
 

kswiston

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Edit - caviar, yeah someone (ghaleon? Kswiston?) posted estimated admissions and Titanic was 2nd or 3rd all time. Even as impressive as Avatar's revenue was, that saw a huge portion come from 3D and large format. As insane as TFA domestic is now, Titanic was STILL bigger. I mean jesus....

Gone with the Wind and Star Wars are on top with all their re releases. However, if we just look at initial runs before any major relaunches, Titanic and E.T. are at the top and are within 2-3% of each other adjusted. Big gap (>20%) then Star Wars. Another big gap (>15%) then things like Jurassic Park, Avatar and Jaws. The Force Awakens could get pretty close to the original Star Wars run.
 

Eidan

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Gone with the Wind and Star Wars are on top with all their re releases. However, if we just look at initial runs before any major relaunches, Titanic and E.T. are at the top and are within 2-3% of each other adjusted. Big gap (>20%) then Star Wars. Another big gap (>15%) then things like Jurassic Park, Avatar and Jaws. The Force Awakens could get pretty close to the original Star Wars run.
Is there a compiled list somewhere with this information? Just curious how other initial runs would rank in terms of admissions.
 

borghe

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The adjusted for inflation list on BOM is the closest compiled list. The only downside being it includes rereleases. Compiling your own list from BOM seems feasible, though I have questions like Gone With the Wind which $189M / 23¢ = ~890M admissions!!?!?

But still the number of movies with rereleases (or usually those releases' contributions) are all pretty minor.
 

kswiston

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Films before 1980 or so typically had several undocumented re-releases. Box office figures pre star wars aren't that useful on boxoffice mojo unless you just want theatrical totals.


So I think Disney will lowball the Sunday drop a bit. If Sat was 58 to 59 I expect an estimate of 155m later today.
 

scitek

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Films before 1980 or so typically had several undocumented re-releases. Box office figures pre star wars aren't that useful on boxoffice mojo unless you just want theatrical totals.


So I think Disney will lowball the Sunday drop a bit. If Sat was 58 to 59 I expect an estimate of 155m later today.
FIlms would also stay in theaters for much longer periods of time since there was no home video market.

Even after 1980, E.T. was in theaters for over a year.
 

3N16MA

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STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS took in an estimated $153.52M this weekend and has grossed $544.57M to date domestically.
boxoffice.com

153.52M I think that gets bumped up with the actuals.

546M OS/1.090B WW.
 

Nibel

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boxoffice.com

153.52M

I think that gets bumped up with the actuals.

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Shit is crazy.
 
So the first 3 day weekend was 193
This 3 day weekend is 153

Drop of just 23%

That is quite good considering the previous record of the highest box office in December for any weekend was 88
 

3N16MA

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Joy - 17.5M
Sisters - 13.88M
Alvin and the Chipmunks - 12.70M
Concussion - 11M
The Big Short - 10.50M
Point Break 10.22M
The Hateful Eight - 4.54M (100 locations)
 

Syf

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The $56.5M estimate for Saturday is interesting after Rth gave us a $58M number. Are they lowballing again? Rth has been pretty spot on each time.
 

Matt_

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Joy - 17.5M
Sisters - 13.88M
Alvin and the Chipmunks - 12.70M
Concussion - 11M
The Big Short - 10.50M
Point Break 10.22M
The Hateful Eight - 4.54M (100 locations)

Great result for Sisters, depending on the finals it may have increased over its opening weekend
 
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