Wkd Box Office Est. 0217-1912 - Denzel back w/ vengeance, war: what is it good for?
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yeah, what about that tangled budget man?
Not that it matters after a $2.8B box-office gross, but weren't those $500M costs for Avatar debunked?
Sometimes I think GAF takes the highest budget rumour as a film's gospel cost, regardless of the credibility of the rumour. People were throwing around $300-400M budgets for Transformers 3 as well.
Sometimes I think GAF takes the highest budget rumour as a film's gospel cost, regardless of the credibility of the rumour. People were throwing around $300-400M budgets for Transformers 3 as well.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Yeah, The New York Times (I believe) reported a $500m budget including marketing costs. Yet when you added all their numbers up, it amassed to just $380m (again, this is including marketing - which nobody ever includes). They never clarified where the missing $120m came from. It was all for the half a billion headline.
Meanwhile, FOX keeps trying to say the budget was $230m. Most sources say its was more accurately hovering around $300m.
The budget+advertising for Avatar was probably closer to 350m. So yeah those initial reports of 500m were just bs.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I was wrong about Avatar, so wouldn't be the first time. Just doesn't seem like they've marketed it well at all. Find out in three weeks I guess.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Put me in the camp of those planning to see John Carter opening weekend, but fully expecting it to bomba... and hard.
maybe it was quiet because it was so boring the kids fell asleep
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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I've still never seen Mann's Miami Vice.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
edit: Seriously though, it's a great movie. And I'm glad to see it get more of a re-evaluation from people as the years go on. Those early days after its release were dark dark days.
TheKaeptain
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You should just keep it that way.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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It's great and so is John Ortiz.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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SonicMegaDrive
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Didn't like the film, eh?
No, I was actually surprised myself. All the kids from where I could see were invested heavily in the film, never fidgeting, or talking or crying.
In comparison, when I went to see Chronicle the previous week, the entire theater was teenagers and young adults, and none of them would shut the eff up.
TheKaeptain
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Project X is being marketed like crazy during the Heat game.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I hope it doesn't bomb because I have a feeling I'm going to want the sequel. But I have a feeling it will bomb.
The Take Out Bandit
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It's so much better than the first (really not an accomplishment) that it deserves all of the success.
That said folks who aren't interested in the character will hate it.
BattleMonkey
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Ghost Rider was a fun film, really surprised. First was awful and went in expecting crap, but we all had a good time.
The movie got a ton of marketing compared to any other studio ghibli film, which usually get no coverage at all. Trailers for it have been attached to almost every younger ranged film now for about 4-5 months now and did see good amount of ads on TV. Wouldn't know about on Disney channel itself, I never touch the channel but on regular channels they were running ads for the film on a regular basis.
The movie got a ton of marketing compared to any other studio ghibli film, which usually get no coverage at all. Trailers for it have been attached to almost every younger ranged film now for about 4-5 months now and did see good amount of ads on TV. Wouldn't know about on Disney channel itself, I never touch the channel but on regular channels they were running ads for the film on a regular basis.
I actually haven't seen the film yet, and was just making a bad joke. ;p
sixteen-bit
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lol War looks so bad
If Avatar really cost only $300 million, we'd be seeing mo-cap extravaganzas on that technological level all the time.
Yeah, it's really good. And it's so weird. That was being marketed as a summer blockbuster? What the hell?
Discotheque
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Fuck man, whenever I want to swag out at the club I watch Miami Vice for some LESSONS.
It's easily one of my top 10 last decade now. I love how you have to pay attention to what they say. And it's almost too slick. In terms of a style over substance film I'll take this over Drive any day.
Oh damn, might as well go on topic here, I'm probably gonna watch Ghost Rider 2 pretty soon. I wish it was r-rated but despite it being pg-13 I like the Crank guys and Nic Cage/Idris Elba
It's easily one of my top 10 last decade now. I love how you have to pay attention to what they say. And it's almost too slick. In terms of a style over substance film I'll take this over Drive any day.
Oh damn, might as well go on topic here, I'm probably gonna watch Ghost Rider 2 pretty soon. I wish it was r-rated but despite it being pg-13 I like the Crank guys and Nic Cage/Idris Elba
Mike Works
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Why on earth are you so interested in this film? It looks horrible from all angles (save for music I suppose).
Discotheque
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The cast/director/scriptwriter etc. are all pretty good
TheKaeptain
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No, not really. Other Directors don't get that James Cameron type of faith from producers.
ryutaro's mama
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John Carter looks harrible and I would be shocked if it did well.
Discotheque
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I honestly thought Avatar would bomb after it's initial trailer (which I liked), despite my blind faith behind James Cameron.
I'm not saying John Carter will be a success though. I'm excited for it and I'm certain I will enjoy it but damn...I just hope Stanton gets to make films again.
I'm not saying John Carter will be a success though. I'm excited for it and I'm certain I will enjoy it but damn...I just hope Stanton gets to make films again.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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It is absolute rubbish. Hardy is amazing in it though as always. Pine is unbearable!
DrForester
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So who won in the end, Kirk or Picard?
BertramCooper
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That McG.
How does he do it?
How does he do it?
Rectify that shit and then roll right into Mann and David Milch (Deadwood)'s Luck.
brianjones
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who watches these denzel movies
SCULLIBUNDO
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I might watch Miami Vice when I get the chance, but I can almost guarantee I won't watch Luck. I never liked what I saw from it (I watched the first ep) and was never a fan of Deadwood.
Ignoring the fact that Avatar had James Cameron and some of the world's more talented SFX people working on it, $300 million is a LOT of money. Very few films cost that much, even with marketing, and very few make the 700M+ worldwide it would take to see a return on investment. There have been enough gigantic bombs in the past 10 years to show that throwing money at a project does not get you a better return.
Denzel has been a pretty steady box office draw for over a decade now.
This is like, a mortal sin in my eyes man. You have crossed a line here from which there is no going back, cocksucker!
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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SCULLIBUNDO
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It's the side of HBO that never won me over. Come join us out on the Boardwalk, Solo.
Good Job Bob
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Miami Vice: Directors or Theatrical?
Which should I watch?
Which should I watch?
TheKaeptain
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Everyone loves Denzel.
Boombloxer
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I wanted to like it, but it's just ok. Collateral and Heat are still my favorite Mann flims.
Yep, Safehouse was good.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Theatrical. Directors doesn't really add anything and the opening to the theatrical version is perfect.
Theatrical. DAT. COLD. OPEN.
TheJollyCorner
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My wife and daughter went to see Arriety this weekend. Said it was fantastic, but the theater just threw it on the smallest screen at the complex. Place was packed, so hopefully they move it into a larger threater if its legs hold up.
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